Gov't shutdown and Chemtrails link???

reply to post by Zaphod58

Do you realize how many flights are in the air at any given moment over the US alone?

Here this should get the point of how many flights for a day.



Enjoy...

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

Ok, then let me clear this up nicely for you. I can prove beyond a doubt that the airlines are not in on it. Go to your nearest airport, and buy a gallon of Jet A (it should cost you less than $6 for a gallon). Get it tested. If it is Jet A-1, it must meet ASTM D1655 standards, which can be found just about anywhere. If it has nothing other than what's in the specifications then there are no additives in it, other than what is supposed to be there, which means no chemtrails.

If an airline was in on it, it would require thousands of people to be involved around the world. It would have leaked by now.

And subject myself to the goon squads of TSA agents? I don't think I'll try that. I'd probably get arrested. No way! I go nowhere near an airport. I only flew twice in my life, and I've had enough of it.

Mikeultra
And subject myself to the goon squads of TSA agents? I don't think I'll try that. I'd probably get arrested.

As you would say...

No.

No way! I go nowhere near an airport. I only flew twice in my life, and I've had enough of it.

Then stop talking about it. If you aren't going to do the research, you have no argument.

reply to post by Mikeultra


You don't actually go anywhere near the TSA, you go to an FBO that sells the fuel with a gas can. What do you think if you go to the airport the TSA is going to grab you and throw you in a van and molest you? You simply find an FBO, and tell them you want to buy a gallon of Jet A.

Unless of course you'd rather bask in ignorance and scream about how they're spraying us instead of actually getting off your butt and doing something to prove it just like the rest of the people that believe in chemtrails.

reply to post by Mikeultra


I occasionally go to Manchester Airport with my camera. It has the Aviation Viewing Park on the Northside and an excellent viewing area Southside, these are directly adjacent to the main runways and taxi ways. When a plane taxies past the AVP it is so close you can feel and taste the jet exhaust.

This area is regularly packed with aircraft enthusiasts whether they are photographers, spotters or just families on days out. How come no one has been poisoned? Also how come no UK chemtrail believers have just walked in and taken an air sample?

My guess is cos there's nothing to test for, and shamefully the guys in the UK who are doing there best to make sure the chemtrail message is sustained know it, or they would have

Then again, maybe they did already, and that's why they are saying nowt.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

You don't actually go anywhere near the TSA, you go to an FBO that sells the fuel with a gas can. What do you think if you go to the airport the TSA is going to grab you and throw you in a van and molest you? You simply find an FBO, and tell them you want to buy a gallon of Jet A.

Unless of course you'd rather bask in ignorance and scream about how they're spraying us instead of actually getting off your butt and doing something to prove it just like the rest of the people that believe in chemtrails.

What's an FBO?

reply to post by Mikeultra


Fixed Base Operation. It's where the private planes park at the airport.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

Fixed Base Operation. It's where the private planes park at the airport.

I don't think they would let me just wander on over there and fill up a can without dealing with TSA thugs. If not them some other hyped-up law enforcement on their crusade against terror. There must be another way that I'll find out the truth.

reply to post by Mikeultra


So you've tried already then?
That was rather fast. I like how TSA who operates within the airport terminals only also somehow has to do with civilian operations. Funny that. Oh wait, they don't.

reply to post by Mikeultra


You want to bet? I worked at a flight school/FBO and we sold avgas and jet fuel to people in gas cans all the time. Avgas is just 100LL fuel so they would mix it with gas in a 1:5 ratio. You just tell them that you're using it for something that requires jet fuel and they'll be happy to fill a can for you.

Shugo
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

So you've tried already then?
That was rather fast. I like how TSA who operates within the airport terminals only also somehow has to do with civilian operations. Funny that. Oh wait, they don't.

Have you ever saw thugs like this driving around your area? I have and they were nowhere near Newark International Airport. They were parked in a county park, wasting time as best I could tell. The Northeast Corridor rail line was the only nearby legitimate reason for them possibly being around. My point is there are too many 3 letter agencies wandering around these parts, and I want nothing to do with them.

reply to post by Mikeultra


So you're just going to sit and scream how they're spraying us, using a conspiracy of thousands, just like everyone else, instead of trying to actually prove it and show us we're wrong.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

So you're just going to sit and scream how they're spraying us, using a conspiracy of thousands, just like everyone else, instead of trying to actually prove it and show us we're wrong.

No, I'm going to dive into the pile of patents that I saw on the other thread, and ferret out the truth!

reply to post by Mikeultra


Obviously "they" are there to "get" you because I have never seen one of those vehicles before in my life. I've seen Commerce Vehicle Enforcement, but that's only an Iowa Agency that takes over for certain roles of the state police (such as large commercial freight transportation on the interstates and highways).

Too many three letter agencies? FBO is not an agency run by a central service, it's an acronym. Stop complaining and go out and prove your theory since you're clinging to it so much. Or is this what chemtrailers do? Kick and scream about something being real with "proof" that is typical of a conspiracy that has no support - then when presented with an option to find out legitimately, they cry about having to do something in relation to real research.

Your patents don't prove anything is in use. Find something reliable like we suggested here. If you aren't going to do research, then your arguments are totally baseless and empty.

Mikeultra
I don't think they would let me just wander on over there and fill up a can without dealing with TSA thugs.

did you try? Or ring and ask?

Or are you just hell bent on not actually doing anything??

reply to post by Mikeultra


Too bad Patents don't actually prove anything except that there's a patent issued. It doesn't prove they're using it or that they were built or anything else.

Mikeultra

No, I'm going to dive into the pile of patents that I saw on the other thread, and ferret out the truth!

I already did that for you ages ago.

reply to post by Mikeultra

They were parked in a county park, wasting time as best I could tell.

Any chance there is a federal building near there?

The Federal Protective Service (FPS) is a federal law enforcement agency that provides integrated security and law enforcement services to federally owned and leased buildings, facilities, properties and other assets.

www.dhs.gov...

Or could he have been just hanging out since the gov't is shut down.

Mikeultra
[Have you ever saw thugs like this driving around your area? I have and they were nowhere near Newark International Airport.

that is because het Federal Protective Service is tasked with protecting federal buildings- everywhere, not just at airports.

But FBO's are not federal buildings - they are private companies - despite having an "F" in the acronym!!

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

It's a patent. Doesn't prove anything, unless you're going to say that all the other patents out there prove they exist, including all the insane ones.

If a patent proves that it exists, then explain where these 25 devices are.

eh those are silly useless ridiculous inventions that would not sell.

chemtrails are invented to help control weather , a highly prized invention that many would pay top dollar for a piece of the action.
the fact that it's patented does not "prove" it exists, but that, among many other facts lend towards it's viability of existing.
you only have to use reason to understand that some things , as absurd as they sound, exist whether you want to believe they do or not.
maybe you should read this...
Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

the funniest thing about chemtrail / weather mod denier's thought process here .. (whether they're aware of it or not)...is that their logic somehow provides for other super powers in the world to develop weather control cloud seeding programs with heavy metals... and not the US.
Like the U.S. would have the money and brains to "think" up the mechanics behind the valuable asset of weather control... but NEVER implement it.. or for some ridiculous reason... WAIT until China or Russia invent it thennnn try to play catch up in their own development ..decades later...
or if not that, then it provides for the idea that NOBODY in the entire world up till this point has even thought about such concepts.. and has never developed it... but they HAVE developed and patented kissing masks, crustless PB&J sandwiches and portable nuclear shelters.

wait..