Gov't shutdown and Chemtrails link???

reply to post by Mikeultra


I can see why you might think it is, but without the picture being clearer than it is, I can't say for certain it is. But if you want to show me why, you can. And I'll evaluate it.

reply to post by Mikeultra


Meteorologists, Climatologists, Environmental and Actuarial Scientists, you know...everyone who studies things having to do with weather on Earth calls contrails cirrus level clouds. Have you read the book I encouraged you to read yet, or are you just going to ignore that?

LuzdeElinor
Not having read all the comments ... I really find it hard to believe, there are STILL non-believers ...
WITH ALL THE PROOF SOLID they exist and ARE POISONING US since the 1970's ... THUS
why increased Cancers, illnesses overall ... haven't you people noticed the increase
with Cancers, which is documented as well ... with GMOs, fluoride and all the other toxins
we've been subjected to

And it's funny that no one has any evidence to support any of those ascertations that you are making in this thread. I really find it hard to believe that people still actually are paranoid to believe in half-whit conspiracy theories.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

I can see why you might think it is, but without the picture being clearer than it is, I can't say for certain it is. But if you want to show me why, you can. And I'll evaluate it.

OK, here is a Wiki photo of a British Airways 767-300 and another photo of the chem-tanker being chased by ______? The unknown object can't be spotted in this latest photo, but there's a better view of the underside of the fuselage, particularly the center fuel tank bulge.

Shugo
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

Meteorologists, Climatologists, Environmental and Actuarial Scientists, you know...everyone who studies things having to do with weather on Earth calls contrails cirrus level clouds. Have you read the book I encouraged you to read yet, or are you just going to ignore that?

LuzdeElinor
Not having read all the comments ... I really find it hard to believe, there are STILL non-believers ...
WITH ALL THE PROOF SOLID they exist and ARE POISONING US since the 1970's ... THUS
why increased Cancers, illnesses overall ... haven't you people noticed the increase
with Cancers, which is documented as well ... with GMOs, fluoride and all the other toxins
we've been subjected to

And it's funny that no one has any evidence to support any of those ascertations that you are making in this thread. I really find it hard to believe that people still actually are paranoid to believe in half-whit conspiracy theories.

I don't recall any book recommendation. I looked at the iridescent cloud photos. Please describe this book you speak of.

reply to post by Mikeultra


That's not a center tank, that's the wheel well and center wing box. The problem with your identification is that all aircraft have that bulge. It's pretty much standard on any aircraft that has a center wing box.

reply to post by Mikeultra


Your shot does tally up pretty well with some 767 shots of my own, it could also be a 777 but is not an Airbus.

reply to post by Mikeultra


I have posted it now twice in this thread:

Ahrens, Donald C. "Meteorology Today: An Introduction to Weather, Climate, and the Environment." Tenth Edition. 2012.

LuzdeElinor

First the NWO is the gvrnmnt. ...

Aye, the Turkish government (see above) ...... apparently!

Shugo
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

I have posted it now twice in this thread:

Ahrens, Donald C. "Meteorology Today: An Introduction to Weather, Climate, and the Environment." Tenth Edition. 2012.

It has a nice cover, but you know what they say about a book's cover. Does it have photos inside? I'll have to research who the author is before I'll trust what he's peddling to the public. He might be one of "them".
www.barnesandnoble.com...

Mikeultra
Does it have photos inside?

What difference would it make if it didn't?

I'll have to research who the author is before I'll trust what he's peddling to the public. He might be one of "them".

I get it, so the textbooks being used by top universities around the world to train the people who actually know what they're talking about in environmental studies are not legitimate...

Whatever, to each their own - but your integral process thus far is to jump on anything that does fit your bill. I'm not holding my breath.

reply to post by waynos


Going by the engines in that last photo, I'm leaning towards a 777-200 instead of a 767.

Shugo

Mikeultra
Does it have photos inside?

What difference would it make if it didn't?

I'll have to research who the author is before I'll trust what he's peddling to the public. He might be one of "them".

I get it, so the textbooks being used by top universities around the world to train the people who actually know what they're talking about in environmental studies are not legitimate...

Whatever, to each their own - but your integral process thus far is to jump on anything that does fit your bill. I'm not holding my breath.

edit on 13.10.2013 by Shugo because: (no reason given)

Well you know it is precisely for that reason that I might not trust information contained in such a book. Stanford University is tinkering around with the weather machine up there in Alaska. So I trust universities about as much I do the government.

By the way, how are the skies over you today? Don't say normal because that will not help me make a determination. Any chem-trails out there?

Zaphod58
reply to post by waynos

 

Going by the engines in that last photo, I'm leaning towards a 777-200 instead of a 767.

All the more likely that it's an international carrier unaffected by the U.S. government shutdown!

Mikeultra
Well you know it is precisely for that reason that I might not trust information contained in such a book. Stanford University is tinkering around with the weather machine up there in Alaska. So I trust universities about as much I do the government.

Thanks for proving my point that you're just another one of the paranoid lot that won't take any information from any credible source.

By the way, how are the skies over you today? Don't say normal because that will not help me make a determination. Any chem-trails out there?

Of course there are no chemtrails, because there is no such thing. There haven't been any chemtrails in the skies over me since I was born.

reply to post by Mikeultra


No airline is affected by the government shut down. International or US.

You honestly, 100% think the airlines are behind this? The fact that you would have to have thousands and thousands of people involved isn't a problem with you? The fact that these thousands of people haven't even thought about leaking this doesn't even begin to concern you? The fact that there isn't a paper trail anywhere to be found doesn't bother you? The fact that you have this MASSIVE conspiracy and it hasn't leaked doesn't bother you?

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

No airline is affected by the government shut down. International or US.

You honestly, 100% think the airlines are behind this? The fact that you would have to have thousands and thousands of people involved isn't a problem with you? The fact that these thousands of people haven't even thought about leaking this doesn't even begin to concern you? The fact that there isn't a paper trail anywhere to be found doesn't bother you? The fact that you have this MASSIVE conspiracy and it hasn't leaked doesn't bother you?

I don't think it would involve thousands and thousands people in the know on this. If the basis for the chem-trails is simply an additive to the jet fuel. How much fewer people would then be in the loop? Remember way back in the thread, somebody gave a link for Weather Modification, Inc., when I went to that site and clicked on an affiliated group at the top of that page was a photo of the current U.S. president sitting with the king of Saudi Arabia! There is the link! Saudi Arabia and weather modification!
www.us-sabc.org...
weathermodification.com...

reply to post by Mikeultra


Ok, you have the people at the fuel yard that add the chemical. You have the people in the testing lab that test the fuel. You have the mechanics that see an odd increase in engine wear, and engines wearing out years before they're supposed to. You have a paper trail showing an odd increase in engine repairs, and changes that has to be hidden. You have the airline executives that have to be made aware of what's going on, so they'll keep quiet about the odd engine wear going on.....

Do you start to see just how hard it would be to cover this up?

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

Ok, you have the people at the fuel yard that add the chemical. You have the people in the testing lab that test the fuel. You have the mechanics that see an odd increase in engine wear, and engines wearing out years before they're supposed to. You have a paper trail showing an odd increase in engine repairs, and changes that has to be hidden. You have the airline executives that have to be made aware of what's going on, so they'll keep quiet about the odd engine wear going on.....

Do you start to see just how hard it would be to cover this up?

No.

Mikeultra

I don't think it would involve thousands and thousands people in the know on this. If the basis for the chem-trails is simply an additive to the jet fuel. How much fewer people would then be in the loop?

Every one at any laboratory that is capable of testing such fuel plus everyone who tests fuel at fuel farms at airports around the world, plus the power-plant engineers who design the engines to run on specific fuels, and all the people who tested every engine type to ensure the hypothetical additive was not going to damage engines.

that is the BARE minimum - you might also want to consider the people who overhaul and test fuel components all around the world - I used to do this - a change in fuel would go noticed by them......

Oh and also all eth people doing air quality checks at airports and cities who are "not noticing" the addition of "whatever it is" in the pollution being generated by aircraft burning this fuel at takeoff.....

"Thousands" seems like a fairly small number - I'd go for hundreds of thousands as a more likely population that has to be "in on it".

What's more they have to include people from pretty much every country in the world - certainly every major industrial country - USA, all of Europe, Russia, China, India, Brazil, Sth Africa, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc....

Remember way back in the thread, somebody gave a link for Weather Modification, Inc., when I went to that site and clicked on an affiliated group at the top of that page was a photo of the current U.S. president sitting with the king of Saudi Arabia! There is the link! Saudi Arabia and weather modification!

the link to what??

reply to post by Mikeultra


Ok, then let me clear this up nicely for you. I can prove beyond a doubt that the airlines are not in on it. Go to your nearest airport, and buy a gallon of Jet A (it should cost you less than $6 for a gallon). Get it tested. If it is Jet A-1, it must meet ASTM D1655 standards, which can be found just about anywhere. If it has nothing other than what's in the specifications then there are no additives in it, other than what is supposed to be there, which means no chemtrails.

If an airline was in on it, it would require thousands of people to be involved around the world. It would have leaked by now.