Jesus is Lucifer the Hidden Unicorn : Saturn-Pan, God of All Time. (ArtiFACT)

Somebody brought up schizophrenia. Thank you for doing that.

It's true that when you are psychotic, you'll look for connections very intensely.
The psychotic person will look for hidden messages (directed to him/her) or a conspiracy (against him/her).
Not that often for a meaning though.

I know this because I have been psychotic myself. I'm not diagnosed with schizophrenia however, they only diagnosed me with a psychosis. On the onset of my psychosis there were important life events and I was intensively looking into science and how that applies to me. My mind couldn't handle all that.

It's a challenge to cope with having the vulnerability of psychosis. For one, I lose credibility, to others and to myself. At first I ignored all of my thoughts. I think it was good to do so until I was recovered fully. I have recently looked at it critically and looked what was real and what not. During the onset of my psychosis my ideas weren't that bad, but when I was (starting to become) psychotic my ideas were all corrupted into illusions and fear had the better of me.

Knowing that, I know I need not become too consumed with this. So I myself, will take a break.
I took a extra med just to be sure. My psychologist says I should instead try to make sense of my thoughts, instead of taking something extra. I will do both.

For at least a week I will ignore this site. I'll give my brain a break. I'm going to read those books, unless I feel it causes me to get too consumed with it.

Then I shall read my posts in this thread again, and put it into perspective. I already see some wild assumptions, but that's not bad. Sane people do it all the time too. Some famous scientists actually had very weird theories too:

www.cracked.com...

www.blastr.com...

"Are we having FUN yet?!"

Seriously, what is going on, people?

An awakening! An OUTPOURING of LIGHT!

But beware for all the Lunacy! Here it is! "Here and There!" ...


People, friends, brothers and sisters! Go to your GOOD religions! YOUR very favorite ones, and GROUND YOURSELF THERE! Do not believe anything, but as MANY are saying -- "All will be revealed!" ... in due time.

Have Patience. Have Courage. Be fearless in your SELF, your GODs! And watch ... as the Moon, LUNA!!! begins to show you Her Other Side!

An Enormous Bell Is Ringing!
-R


(don't believe I word I say, and don't read into this, it's not for you but for YOU!)

Before I move on and add more information for those following this far in, I want to point out the progression of the thread and the types of responses I have got.
This is something worth noting.

Ask yourself where are all the "specific" types of people who you would EXPECT to agree with me?
Am I exposing something they don't want anyone to know?
Do they even know it yet? Do they feel silly?

How far up the ladder does this "Tree and Serpent" secret really go? Does it go all the way to the top?
I wonder about these types of things sometimes.

And in response to those who continually attempt to insinuate that I am crazy or something, what a joke.
Look around you the whole world right now is actually Crazy!

I am trying to undo that by showing people insights into things they may not have heard anything about.

Personal attacks or insinuations are not going to dissuade me.
It's too late now, especially considering that the response indicates that I did hit the jackpot big time.

I will continue through the day and add some stuff I bet no one knows much of anything about.

My friend, I don't know if you are talking to me in your last post (and I don't care), but I recommend you put some SUN Glasses on, take a CHILL Pill and get grounded a little. Unless you're feeling groovy?

Continue! You are sprinkling so many HINTS!

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Am I exposing something they don't want anyone to know?...

Personal attacks or insinuations are not going to dissuade me.
It's too late now, especially considering that the response indicates that I did hit the jackpot big time.

No, we're just worried about you.

Originally posted by Schillinger
This is, by the very definition of it, a Satanic thread. Not some fake Levin Satanism. Real Satanism where the honest to God belief is that the true creator is Enki (Egyptian god), and the Christian God is the true Satan. The roles are reversed.

This is what these Illuminati idiots believe. You want to know where the arrogance starts? The 2000 year old lie.

That's not true though.

Where are they? They are avoiding my thread like the plague...

WHY??????
The answer is right off the tip of your tongue.

Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Am I exposing something they don't want anyone to know?...

Personal attacks or insinuations are not going to dissuade me.
It's too late now, especially considering that the response indicates that I did hit the jackpot big time.

No, we're just worried about you.

What is the point of you being here?

To help keep the thread active?
Cool Thanks that means more people will see it.
You rock I appreciate the assistance.

It's not about you, Muzzle, it's about YOU! Think about it! Everywhere are souls like you, being torn apart, for the better (in the long run, trust me). But NO ONE is coming here to combat you. So just ... relax ...

Originally posted by muzzleflash
What is the point of you being here?

To help keep the thread active?
Cool Thanks that means more people will see it.
You rock I appreciate the assistance.

I'm pretty sure it's because I, and others, are worried about you and others in this thread. Have you read up on schizophrenia?

I'm glad to see someone in this thread has made a correct diagnosis with help from people like me.

Originally posted by HenryBowen
It's not about you, Muzzle, it's about YOU! Think about it! Everywhere are souls like you, being torn apart, for the better (in the long run, trust me). But NO ONE is coming here to combat you. So just ... relax ...

Cool thanks. I'll try to calm down and find some tranquility.

I just woke up so I need to finish my coffee and get my mind ready for the days upcoming posts.

I am not too worried about the naysayers though because with 48 flags so far that proves that someone is interested in what the thread discusses. I haven't seen any real debate or anything on the points of facts, aside of some very minor spelling mistakes or whatnot.

Now I am gonna think up something awesome to share with everyone soon.
What to pull outta the Door next?

Brother, all you need to do is take your time. Sort out your thoughts slowly, and stop pasting them here as they come.

You can do a great work, IN DUE TIME. Whatever you believe in, know this: You Higher SELF will guide you, as soon as you still your Heart and especially, YOUR MIND. I'm sending you good thoughts, as are you friends here. Take a deep breath ... sigh ...

As receive them.

And friend, ask, your own way, for God to bring you stillness, clarity, Wisdom, and all above all, LOVE.

Peace!

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Thank you for the kinds words and thoughts.
I really do appreciate it as it's nice to have a little positive push.

I was thinking about this and want to post it, hopefully it will surprise you and a ton of other people.
Let's practice learning how to read extremely well hidden symbolism and decipher it's true messages.

Manneken Pis

(literally Little Man Pee in Marols, a Dutch dialect spoken in Brussels, also known in French as le Petit Julien), is a famous Brussels landmark. It is a small bronze fountain sculpture depicting a naked little boy urinating into the fountain's basin. It was designed by Hiëronymus Duquesnoy the Elder and put in place in 1618 or 1619.[1] It bears a similar cultural significance as Copenhagen's Little Mermaid.

Ok so this particular rendition of this motif is extremely famous as statuary goes, however it is also much overlooked. I ask everyone to read around about the history of this particular piece I want us all to examine.

#1 Let's think Mythology for a first step.
What could this possibly represent?

Jupiter / Zeus

Lightning = Flashing
Thunder = Laughing
Rain = Urinating

Right here in our faces is a statue of Zeus making a joke out of everyone? Pretending to be a little cute kid?
Ok but what else can we find? Hmm, how about we check our constellations for more insight?

Aquarius, the Water Bearer seems like a really good fit.

Aquarius is extremely important to gain understanding about because it represents the knowledge of heaven being poured upon us.

You could seriously spend days studying this particular motif, as it has many variants and renditions throughout history and across the continents.

Aquarius Constellation wiki
Wiki isn't that great when it comes to Astrological issues, but the wikis on the Constellations themselves have quite a bit of references to start a search for insight with.

For topics like Aquarius we are going to have to spread the search out across the entire net as this topic is extremely diverse and I cannot even convey it's depth. You could study nothing but this topic and still never cover it all.

It is found in a region often called the Sea due to its profusion of constellations with watery associations such as Cetus the whale, Pisces the fish, and Eridanus the river.[2]

It is directly associated with the whale and the fish.

Aquarius is identified as GU.LA "The Great One" in the Babylonian star catalogues and represents the god Ea himself, who is commonly depicted holding an overflowing vase. The Babylonian star-figure appears on entitlement stones and cylinder seals from the second millennium. It contained the winter solstice in the Early Bronze Age.[3] In Old Babylonian astronomy, Ea was the ruler of the southernmost quarter of the Sun's path, the "Way of Ea", corresponding to the period of 45 days on either side of winter solstice. Aquarius was also associated with the destructive floods that the Babylonians regularly experienced, and thus was negatively connoted.[2] In Ancient Egypt, Aquarius was associated with the annual flood of the Nile; the banks were said to flood when Aquarius put his jar into the river, beginning spring.[4]

So literally in a historical sense, Aquarius is representing God=All pouring knowledge down from heaven.

Aquarius is also sometimes identified with beautiful Ganymede, a youth in Greek mythology and the son of Trojan king Tros, who was taken to Mount Olympus by Zeus to act as cup-carrier to the gods.[6][7][5]

Ok so Ganymede = Little boy Aquarius?

An alternative version of the tale recounts Ganymede's kidnapping by the goddess of the dawn, Eos, motivated by her affection for young men; Zeus then stole him from Eos and employed him as cup-bearer.

Ganymede = Cup Bearer?
What does the Cup Bearer represent and what is the history of Aquarius globally?
Is Manneken Pis actually Zeus the shape shifter two faced one?

Are the people who revere this statue and dress it up ceremonially every week, and other statuary like it, actually viewing this as a representation of how they view themselves to we (the public) and how they are literally making a joke of us? Our inability to see anything in plain sight?

Will continue next post....

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Seems you have it all sorted out ...with the words you have come to know..

Also check the link on Jeanneke Pis, the female variant of this bizarre motif.
Plus look into the different types of this statuary, it's variations, etc.

Perhaps many people would associate it with Cupid as they are both typically shown as small kids.
We do not have Cupid's typical iconography however in this particular rendition that I can see off hand.

Also check out The Little Mermaid statuary and perhaps consider doing some "occult + mermaid" oriented searches for further insight into that important topic.

Ok back to Aquarius and cup bearers.
Cup Bearer

On account of the constant fear of plots and intrigues, a person must be regarded as thoroughly trustworthy to hold this position. He must guard against poison in the king's cup, and was sometimes required to swallow some of the wine before serving it. His confidential relations with the king often gave him a position of great influence.

Ok so a cup bearer is a type of protector, who acts as a gateway between the lower and upper.
Only the "good drink" will make it past this figure, allegorically speaking.

This makes perfect sense actually in relation to Manneken Pis, because this statue is also yet another gateway to amazing correlations and deeper insight.

Ok so Myth links : Hebe (Greek)
Ganymede

Ganymede Jupiter's largest Moon

So it's Jupiter's moon, the youthful intermediary between God and the Lower Realms?

So Aquarius the hidden water Ram is actually an excellent case for a semi-hidden Jesus motif ?

Go Google around Jesus + Aquarius and you will see, this is extremely common to make this association.
I won't even bother getting into all the weird stuff that entails as entire religions are based on this specific motif.

So this helps a lot overall, it gives insight into seeing who this little statue may possibly really represent.
Jesus, the Cup Bearer, the chameleon of God taking yet another form in our iconography.

As it's related, let's Enter the Carp and check some links on :
Cetus Constellation
Cetus myth

In Jonah 2:1 (1:17 in English translation), the Hebrew text reads dag gadol (דג גדול), which literally means "great fish". The Septuagint translates this phrase into Greek as mega ketos (μέγα κῆτος). The term ketos alone means "huge fish", and in Greek mythology the term was closely associated with sea monsters. Jerome later translated this phrase as piscis grandis in his Latin Vulgate. However, he translated the Greek word kētos as cetus in Gospel of Matthew 12:40.

This is directly associated with Jonah's whale.

Now we are into Sea Monsters motifs:
Leviathan
Check the related links as well, this is one of our global motifs, the sea (seeing inside one's inner darkness).
The proverbial Creature of the Deep, that Jörmungandr.
Also look into the Hellmouth mythology

Eridanus the River
A very important symbol to understanding this region of the sky in terms of mythological connotation and psychological application.

Here is a link to the Sea (astronomy)
Make sure to check out the Dolphin and the Hydra and the endless streams of information related to these historical symbols.

Check out the history of these signs in comparison with the other cultures around the world, there are literally millions of hits on this single set of topics.

It's about knowledge, awakening, revelation, connecting with the higher and lower forces through both Sky-upper symbolism like (Aquarius) and Earth-lower symbolism (Monster of the Deep).

Now here is a really bizarre connection I came across after discovering the Manneken Pis....

Magnum Opus Alchemy

Colors of the magnum opus seen on the breastplate of a figure from Splendor Solis

How incredibly Bizarre, there is Manneken Pis right there on the Magnum Opus wiki page's choice of photograph?
Gotta be kidding me...

I wonder what that item he has on his back is? Cupid's Bow?? I don't know, it's possible though.
Also note the second statue on the other side that is more obscure.
*Sun and Moon Doorway Symbolism*
As above so below, numbers 4, 5, 7 etc.

Splender Solis

Splendor Solis ("The Splendour of the Sun") is a well-known colorful alchemical manuscript. The earliest version, written in Central German, is dated 1532–1535 and is housed at the Kupferstichkabinett Berlin at State Museums in Berlin. It is illuminated on vellum, with decorative borders like a book of hours, beautifully painted and heightened with gold. The later copies in London, Kassel, Paris and Nuremberg are equally fine. In all twenty copies exist worldwide.

Very rare item.

Reading down further about one of the copies...

This illuminated manuscript of Splendor Solis text is considered to be the most magnificent treatise on alchemy ever made.

Very interesting.
So we have Manneken Pis hiding in plain sight yet again, and this time in exactly the place we need him to be.
Pretty convincing that this statue represents Jesus essentially.

Take some time and observe the complex symbolism in that photo, and check out some other similar photos for additional inspiration.

Well this brings me back some painful memories...

Bro, I'd calm down if I were you, breath in and out slowly.

As for comparing the names of god and symbolic meaning, I'd suggest just leaving that to scholars to decipher or to talk about their origins and meanings. I wouldn't get to hyped about primitive idols with such rich history, even though as cool as it, it can be very distracting, especially with today's media(assholes). Also, stay away from t.v for a few days, and don't go into third eye meditations

Also try not to rhyme for a little bit.

"Deus, Deus, with my bubble goose." Sorry I just felt like it.

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While I think you are a great wordsmith with interesting ideas, I have to say that I cringe every time people do this: "Saturn's hidden esoteric meaning is "Saw Turn", "Unicorn=Ear of Corn" or "MYSTERY = MISSED TREE". These words originated in Latin/Greek, not Old English. The meaning you attribute to them in that manner is irrelevant.
I like that your interpretation reminds me of the Gnostic Demiurge.

And of course you will find mixtures of Pagan and Christian symbolism (or practices, beliefs), (well-known) history will tell you why.

Originally posted by covertpanther
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

Okay I cant go on any longer.. As A LOT of this information is not true at all; but the convoluted works of an occult and kabbalah student. These teachings are ment to lead the student into a maze, and never find the way out, thus bringing false understanding, meanwhile the 'masters' of the teachings (or I should say, the controllers of this planet) laugh at the student, and controll everything.

History = His story. Its the male dominance of this planet that dims the light of the feminine creation, supressing its power and conquering the world. Writing history, which becomes his story (the males dominance throughout the ages, the the way he wants the readers and stuudents of history to understand the 'past').

Thee reader needs to know this; the complete controllers of this planet (and I do NOT refer to governments or the Queen when I say this.. There are forces and consciousness behind both, that create this reality on Earth, everyone else is 'role' playing, and pushing for their 'agenda' for Earth/humanity, which is world domination silently) - the controllers of this planet are of spiritual nature.

If you do not live in spirituality, which is knowing and experiencing your INNER/INTERNAL SELF - if you have not had a vivid spiritual experience - you will not understand how the control over humanity and earth work. IF you only percieve with what oyur 5 senses are limited to (sound, taste, visual, scents, and touch/body feeling/nerves) you will NOT be able to comprehend why this planet is in the mess it is, or understand what the controllers are really into. Which is an on-going thing for a couple thousand years..

Now; what is more important then all the money, diamonds, gold, gems, power, cars, technology the world has to offer?

Your Soul.

The only reason the controllers (the spiritual masters of dark-intent; who govern over Vatican, Queen, presidents etc.. - do what they do, is to leech your internal energy. Making it less possible for any human stuck in the Matrix, to experience the spiritual nature they ARE.

Everything you perceive in the EXTERNAL reality is to draw yourself away from YOU. The outside world (outside your body/mind/soul = 3D realm/dimension/plane) is a DESIGN, like a labrynth, to lead one completely away from knowing thy self, from expanding their consciousness, and emancipating from the matrixes.

When you go into ANY teaching; christian, judaism, taoism, occult, esoteric, kabbalah, buddism.. Whatever; you will be morphing into the paradigm of that EXTERNAL reality, that EXTERNAL system. All systems are as a pyramid (which means middle fire = Pyro/mid) - where the masters of the teaching, will always be on top, and you will always been below, never to reach BEYOND the point of the pyramid structre.

Every system is based on this structure. For the curious human, to follow the white rabbit, but never find what its really looking for.. Which is INSIDE, the INNER-SELF, the INTERNAL reality.

ALL SYSTEMS ARE CONSTRUCTED TO TRAP THE STUDENT/SEEKER WITHIN THE SPECIFIC PARADIGM, SO ONE CAN NEVER EMANCIPATE FROM THE MATRIX THAT HAS TRAPPED THEIR SOUL. PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THIS PLANET AND DIMENSION IS A PLACE TO LEARN AND GROW THEIR SPIRIT, WHICH IS COMPLETE BULSH*T, THE SOUL IS ALL KNOWING, BUT HAS BEEN FORCED/CAUGHT+TRAPPED TO LIVE IN LIMITED BODIES AND EXPERICING A DENSE REALM OUTSIDE OF THEIR SELF - PERCEIVING OUT WITH 5 SENSES THAT THESE BODIES WERE CONSTRUCTED FOR.

Understand that, and you understand everything any system will try and teach. Never take any teaching at face value, never accept anything you dont FEEL (not think FEEL) is right. If you cant understand it, its because its a means to lie and trap your mind and leave you perceiving EXTERNALLY.

Everything you will learn is a twist, lie, manipulation, and metaphorical teaching of the HUMAN BODY/MIND/SOUL BODIES. They take the deepest knowings of the human (physically, mentally, spiritually/internally) and twist them into stories, characters, and EXTERNAL representations, leading the SEEKER/STUDENT on a hunt.

There is way to much sh*t to go through and interpret (correctly) for people. We are all seekers, some of us are much higher the seekers, meaning we have a much higher understanding of this matrix and what the HUMAN is ment to BE, what it is CAPABLE of DOING - INTERNALLY and EXTERNALLY.

I am going to leave this thread alone; but I do not agree with its premise. As in my eyes, it is the works and understandings of one who is caught in the labrynth of bullsh*t (Baal is the bull, which is the belly, which is the bowel - which is the PART of the HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS that is power hungry/which corresponds with the digestive system physically - see how it works?).

The only way to find the cheese, is to take what they give you, then leave.

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I get no responses the entire thread

?? But you people listen to this rambling bs? Sorry Muzzleflash, you are one the few people I enjoy on this website (big compliment) - but this is just a total copy and paste of to much sh*t you have read in the past few years.. All added into one big nasty soup.

Jot this down Muzzle; next time you create a thread and bring your ideas and beliefs to a collective, slow down on the information. There is enough information here for 10 threads. Thats too much to throw together, as who really wants to (or has the time?) to read all this crap?

Read my reply honesty and slowly in your mind - you will understand everything you are searching for. That is not a superior mentality, that is the truth my friend. Everything is created EXTERNALLY - so know one understands the INTERNAL TRUTH.

Which is your SOUL. You are connected to EVERYTHING. The creating force that designed all you percieve an experience (internally & externally) is the exact singular THOUGHT from the most grand consciousness. The "big bang" is the "BIg-Thought-Creational-Design.

GO INSIDE. Do not Seek OUTSDE. You will fall to dogma, traps, myths, lies, manipulation, or get stuck under teh pyramid where you will NEVER understand how to emancipate beyond the highest controllers of the external-physical realm, the external/mental-physical realm and the INTERNAL-Spiritual realm.

You can trust me with your entire heart; what I gave you in this thread, will save you years of your life

Or you can go on and get into all this sh*t you have presented that is just a mess in your mind - where you never find YOURSELF.

Goodluck my friend

Originally posted by Deetermined
Let's look at the definition of Adam according to the "Ancient Hebrew Research Center"...

Name of the Month - Adam

By: Jeff A. Benner

We are all familiar with the name "Adam" as found in the book of Genesis, but what does it really mean? Let us begin by looking at its roots. This word/name is a child root derived from the parent דם meaning, "blood". By placing the letter א in front of the parent root, the child rootאדם is formed and is related in meaning to דם (blood).

By examing a few other words derived from the child root אדם we can see a common meaning in them all. The Hebrew word אדמה (adamah) is the feminine form of אדם meaning "ground" (see Genesis 2:7). The word/name אדום (Edom) means "red". Each of these words have the common meaning of "red". Dam is the "red" blood, adamah is the "red" ground, edom is the color "red" and adam is the "red" man. There is one other connection between "adam" and "adamah" as seen in Genesis 2:7 which states that "the adam" was formed out of the "adamah".

In the ancient Hebrew world, a person’s name was not simply an identifier but descriptive of one's character. As Adam was formed out of the ground, his name identifies his origins.

www.ancient-hebrew.org...

everything is pointless until we first actually understand words in there original form.

this is where we need to be, root words.. mistranslations over time have been used to manipulate people into accepting bogus religions

Originally posted by sleepdealer
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

While I think you are a great wordsmith with interesting ideas, I have to say that I cringe every time people do this: "Saturn's hidden esoteric meaning is "Saw Turn", "Unicorn=Ear of Corn" or "MYSTERY = MISSED TREE". These words originated in Latin/Greek, not Old English. The meaning you attribute to them in that manner is irrelevant.
I like that your interpretation reminds me of the Gnostic Demiurge.

And of course you will find mixtures of Pagan and Christian symbolism (or practices, beliefs), (well-known) history will tell you why.

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But, where does ENGLISH actually come from..

p.s. ---------->it IS NOT ENGLAND.... not the geographic England.. those people did not historically SPEAK ENGLISH..

My personal "theory" is that English now is a esoteric language in itself carfefully developed and scripted by unseen forces with hidden motives.. kind of like spellcraft/withcraft/riddlers

I have always wanted to see where the ANGLOS got there strange and interesting tongue.

could they have been mystic warriors whom adopted their own dialect that over time become English?

sounds exactly like how all languages started huh?