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Jesus is Lucifer the Hidden Unicorn : Saturn-Pan, God of All Time. (ArtiFACT)

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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 08:14 PM
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Who was the real Nun?


The Ancient Egyptians envisaged the oceanic abyss of the Nun as surrounding a bubble in which the sphere of life is encapsulated, representing the deepest mystery of their cosmogony.[1] In Ancient Egyptian creation accounts the original mound of land comes forth from the waters of the Nun.[2]


Sound familiar yet?
We can get into Abyss motifs later which should be fun.


Nu was shown usually as male but also had aspects that could be represented as female or male. Nunet (/ˈnuːˌnɛt/; also spelt Naunet) is the female aspect, which is the name Nu with a female gender ending. The male aspect, Nun, is written with a male gender ending. As with the primordial concepts of the Ogdoad, Nu's male aspect was depicted as a frog, or a frog-headed man. In Ancient Egyptian art, Nun also appears as a bearded man, with blue-green skin, representing water. Naunet is represented as a snake or snake-headed woman.


Kuk

In the Ogdoad cosmogony, his name meant darkness. As a concept, Kuk was viewed as androgynous, his female form being known as Kauket (also spelled as Keket), which is simply the female form of the word Kuk.[1]

Like all four dualistic concepts in the Ogdoad, Kuk's male form was depicted as a frog, or as a frog-headed man, and the female form as a snake, or a snake-headed woman. As a symbol of darkness, Kuk also represented obscurity and the unknown, and thus chaos.[2] Also, Kuk was seen as that which occurred before light, thus was known as the bringer-in of light.


A very interesting article, also check out the rest of the Ogdoad.

Khepri

This is where our Scarab symbolism comes from specifically.


Young dung beetles, having been laid as eggs within the dung ball, emerge from it fully formed. Therefore, Khepri also represented creation and rebirth, and he was specifically connected with the rising sun and the mythical creation of the world. The Egyptian connected his name with the Egyptian language verb kheper, meaning "develop" or "come into being".[1]


So this symbol represents the cycle of life death rebirth.

Back to Sekmet, she derived from the older Wadjet the serpent.
Also very closely associated with Bast , Tefnut even Cybele was associated, along with other similar deities.

This variant is an older cat motif and can show the types of variation. Lions primarily, but all types of cats are commonly associated directly with witchcraft or various prominent religions world wide. Aker.

We even have Governments and Corporations using lions for their Logos / Heraldry.
Why what's up with that??

Ok let's find out so we won't be ignorant anymore! This should be a start, but don't stop here!! Go keep digging and exploring for more.
Lion (Heraldry)

Sometimes it's clear we have Sphinx / Chimera associations but often times this is not clear at all.
An interesting thing to keep an eye out for further clues.

Ok we have the Lion of Judah


In Christian tradition, the Lion of Judah represents Jesus. Jesus was from the tribe of Judah and he is mentioned as the Lion of Judah in Revelation. The phrase appears in the New Testament Book of Revelation 5:5; "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

Many Christian organizations and ministries use the lion of Judah as their emblem or even their name. The use in C. S. Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia of a lion named Aslan is known to represent Jesus Christ.[2][3][4][5][6]


Very interesting.
So Jesus is the Lion too? I'll be!


Also the wiki for Leo Constellation

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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Emergingtruth
 


The bible is a maze in itself. It causes more confusion than any other book on Earth. The 40,000+ denominations and thousands of versions of the bible prove that.

The bible does not elevate you unless you know how to separate the truth from the lies, and the bible is full of lies. It is not the word of God, but of Satan. It causes so much confusion for a reason, because that's its purpose.

If you believe the bible is infallible, you are doing yourself a disservice. The bible and Christianity has helped to shape society as it is today, and you see how screwed up it is.
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Greatwork!! you've successfully used the bible to prove that the bible doesnt prove anything.. Awesome!!! LOL

'unsubscribed'



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth. All I said was the bible is neither infallible nor the word of God.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 08:29 PM
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if im not mistaken..RA was ANU
king of the Anunnaki.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 09:08 PM
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The word Ra is referenced many times and although there are different meanings extrapolated they branch out from the same root meaning.

It is usually associated with the sun god Horus - being the sun/son of Isis and Osiris which forms the trinity. It is the Ra is IsRaEl.

(Although El in this case refers to Saturn. El is a reference for Giants/Titans - If you see the word El used as a suffix, prefix or within the name of something like a person or a place then you know that it has something to do with giants. The An is a reference for an ancient race of beings that fought against the Giants/Titans. The word Angel is the mix that came from this intermarriage. The 'Us' is a reference to the AEsir - a family of 12 that was a mix of El and An that ruled over humanity (and some suspect rule over us still). 'Us' is used as a suffix at the end of Gods names or the names of places where the Gods resided)

In Scandinavian folklore, Rå is a keeper or warden of a particular location or landform.

Ra is the etymology of the word Ray. Like a ray of sunlight.

Ra is used interchangeably with the word Chi(Qi/Key). That it why you get such different variations on the theme of Chi Rho or Ki Ra or CaiRo.etc

Used together they form different variations on the same thing - The divine path/The enlightened path/light of God/Key to Heaven/etc.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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Whoa, nice heads up there thanks!

Gonna go look into that information you shared.
I really appreciate it, and I see it's your first post, welcome to ATS!


Feel free to add anything more or correct anything you find wrong. Thanks again!!



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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Anu refers to Uranus. The original Father of the Gods. (Could also be mother - referenced in the Tuatha De Danann which means 'peoples of the goddess Danu' which fought against a race of giants known as the Fir Bolg)

Uranus was taken over by Saturn/El/Cronus.

Saturn/Cronus was taken over by Jupiter/Zeus.

Then comes Mercury the messenger of the Gods.

AKA Thoth. AKA Hermes trismegistus. The thrice great.

The sixth son of the sixth son of the sixth son.



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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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ha ha see...it depends on what you read.
ANU..aka Cronos and Amen-Ra
this is from Sumerian
at least relayed by Alex Lessin
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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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The thing is you can mix and match anything you so desire to mean anything. Certain things are predisposed however, and a great part of humanity even the most scientific of mind is still a little bit superstitious.

Besides are we to derive any number of things from matters, hey what about the third son of the third son of the third son, or the 8th son of the 8th son of the 8th son. You can go on as such forever, things and words do not have meaning unless you give them meaning. You can intertwine any there in meaning to match what you want, some are intentional and some become intentional.

And unfortunately the things the op is talking about has meaning, because we give them meaning, and because the greater part of humanity is predisposed to it all. The mind like a computer likes to covert and information, of which is represented in greater part by the simplest symbols to compress huge jambles of data. Which is why we are always looking to make links between everything in our observable world, even in writing. And the links are there, sometimes merely looking and observing brings it into being.

Besides its the seventh son, of the seventh son. I think there's a book on it, but anyways now there making a movie of it. It looks pretty cool actually, definetley going to go watch it and I am not a big movie goer.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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This is going to be really fun.
I want to expose people to the finer points of "Knowing Your Flags and Heraldry"
AKA "Realizing How You Are Being Manipulated".

Let's start here : Vexillography
Vexillology


Vexillography is the art and practice of designing flags; it is allied with vexillology, the scholarly study of flags, but is not synonymous with that discipline.[1] A person who designs flags is a vexillographer.



First among the practical issues confronting a vexillographer is the necessity for the design to be manufactured (and often mass produced) into or onto a piece of cloth, which will subsequently be hoisted aloft in the outdoors to represent an organization, individual, idea, or group.



Keep It Simple: the flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory.
Use Meaningful Symbolism: the flag’s images, colors, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes.
Use 2–3 Basic Colors: that is, limit of the number of colors on the flag to three, which contrast well and come from the standard color set.
No Lettering or Seals: never use writing of any kind or an organization’s seal.
Be Distinctive or Be Related: avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections.


Ok so they clearly state this is highly symbolic imagery. That even the colors and pattern scheme is important.
Use similarities to show connections? Hmmm cool thanks, makes it easier to figure out.

Flag terminology wiki
Handy that one.

IFVA

Vexillum Roman history

Heraldry and Tincture Basics coming in next post....



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 10:48 PM
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So you saying that saying amen to the cross means something other then what people think it does. Go figure eh.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Therefore since "LUCIFER" means "LIGHT BEARER" in LATIN, it's only logical to place this TERM on the JESUS side of the Equation opposing "SATAN".



What does Lucifer mean in the other 6000 + languages of Earth?

I don't get the significance of Latin... everyone always seems to pick it out of the crowd and use it as a point maker as if the one single language is more relevant than other dialects.

I'm going to go back and read this thread again later as it's 05:00 and I simply can't understand at the moment what the point of this thread was. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a waste of time but what is its purpose? All I currently see is a lot of random words jumbled up to make connections...

I read it like this: Cat = Peanut Butter = God / Food

It makes nonsense...

~ CrzayFool



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Heraldry
Tincture


Historically, it has been variously described as "the shorthand of history"[3] and "the floral border in the garden of history".[4] The origins of heraldry lie in the need to distinguish participants in combat when their faces were hidden by iron and steel helmets.[5] Eventually a formal system of rules developed into ever more complex forms of heraldry.


Ok it has evolved and developed extensively over time.

However today we have tons of iterations of this in all of our corporate icons, government seals, coins etc.
All of this is super important stuff, but it will take a ton of time for anyone to really get into it if they want to, maybe someone could make threads decoding symbols of flags of nations and their hidden meanings, or standards etc.

Sky's the limit folks you can go anywhere with any of this stuff.
This is really dense stuff sometimes so try to fight your programmed urges to not want to look at it at least for a glance to understand it exists.

All of these "Meaningful Symbols" that no one actually knows how to read properly. But it's all around us.

Back to the Heralds:


To "blazon" arms means to describe them using the formal language of heraldry. This language has its own vocabulary and syntax, or rules governing word order, which becomes essential for comprehension when blazoning a complex coat of arms.


What??? It's it's whole own new language?
Another layer of the onion. Whatever are they hiding?


The verb comes from the Middle English blasoun, itself a derivative of the French blason meaning "shield". The system of blazoning arms used in English-speaking countries today was developed by heraldic officers in the Middle Ages. The blazon includes a description of the arms contained within the escutcheon or shield, the crest, supporters where present, motto and other insignia. Complex rules, such as the rule of tincture, apply to the physical and artistic form of newly created arms, and a thorough understanding of these rules is essential to the art of heraldry. Though heraldic forms initially were broadly similar across Europe, several national styles had developed by the end of the Middle Ages, and artistic and blazoning styles today range from the very simple to extraordinarily complex.


Looks a whole lot like Alchemy all over again, but with tons of new ideas and information to get all tied up in forever. How insane.


One of the few fundamental rules of heraldry is that metals must not be placed upon other metals and colours must not be placed upon other colours, while furs and proper can sometimes be placed upon either or both. This is referred to as the rule of tincture.


I'll just put a few more links so everyone can go look at categories etc and see this style of "Suggestive" Imagery and click additional links to see just how much there is to this one topic.

Check this out:

Tricking

Tricking is a method for describing the tinctures (colours) used in a coat of arms by means of text abbreviations or symbols.


This is actually half as bad as it sounds, maybe fully.

Hatching System

Dexter and Sinister

Dexter and Sinister = "Right and Left" in Latin times


You guys all know about Dimidiation right? Haha.

All and tons more crap info, to MAKE ICONS!!! WHY????
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posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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A-MEN..
Egyptian god of life,
man with a rams head..



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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I could be wrong about the mark of the beast, 666 and the whole Mystery Babylon thing. I'll admit that I'm probably over extending my reach there.

Other than anecdotal evidence I too wonder if there is any truth to these things. Perhaps I am looking too deeply into such things and seeing patterns emerge where there are none.

I realize that there is a certain power that myths have over us. If it were simply the superstitious imaginings of simple minded men then it would be so easy to discount it as nothing more that.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 12:50 AM
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It bothers me to see people so intelligent just twiddling their mental thumbs. Why not devote that energy to the real world and help me save our planet?



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 01:00 AM
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This is, by the very definition of it, a Satanic thread. Not some fake Levin Satanism. Real Satanism where the honest to God belief is that the true creator is Enki (Egyptian god), and the Christian God is the true Satan. The roles are reversed.

This is what these Illuminati idiots believe. You want to know where the arrogance starts? The 2000 year old lie.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Emergingtruth
 


The bible is a maze in itself. It causes more confusion than any other book on Earth. The 40,000+ denominations and thousands of versions of the bible prove that.

The bible does not elevate you unless you know how to separate the truth from the lies, and the bible is full of lies. It is not the word of God, but of Satan. It causes so much confusion for a reason, because that's its purpose.

If you believe the bible is infallible, you are doing yourself a disservice. The bible and Christianity has helped to shape society as it is today, and you see how screwed up it is.
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The Bible is not a maze if you read it and know your history, other than that you need basic reading comprehension skills and just a willingness to read it.

The 40,000 denominations and thousands of versions of the Bible are used by Satan to confuse and overwhelm people from looking at Christianity as the true path, when in fact it is the right direction. A great example of this is the way in which the intrinsic value of money or any object decreases in value when you print or make more of it. Each individual note or coin has a reduced value every time more of it is printed. Therefore, the maximized value of Christianity is found at the true source of Christianity which is the Bible, or the words of God.

The Bible exists in order for people to have access to the words of God their creator. The way in which you prove the Bible is composed of the words of God is through the Bible Prophecies that predicted not only the 1st coming of Jesus Christ but also the historical roadmap of events that occurred thousands of years after the words were written on paper by the prophets. Not only that, but the concordance in imagery and symbolism between prophets who existed hundreds of years apart from each other prove that the Bible is the inspired words of God.

Once you understand the Bible Prophecies, then you will be understand that you are capable of attaining eternal life by following God's 10 Commandments and believing in Jesus Christ who was God who became man and died and resurrected to become the intermediary of humanity in heaven, who by praying in his name, your prayers will be heard in heaven. So you or anyone else can achieve eternal life, by following the 10 commandments and believing in the life of Jesus Christ as told in the Bible. The truth in which Satan is trying to confuse and overwhelm people away from knowing, is that they are able to gain eternal life by simply following the words of their infinite creator, found in the Bible. This why there are 40,000 denominations with bits and pieces of the overall full truth found in the Bible, in order to confuse and overwhelm non-Christians away from finding the truth about eternal life.


The Bible translations are not much of a problem, you can still understand the original meaning of the words of the Bible in most translations. The best version is actually the King James Version.

You are selling yourself short by not taking the Bible and eternal life seriously. The society we live in today was not shaped by the Bible; if it was shaped by Bible then we would be living in a better society. The society we live in today is shaped by Satanists/ Illuminati/ High-level Freemasons and Jesuits who want to eliminate God and people who believe in God and the Bible from society. If you look at the histories of the secret societies mentioned above then you will understand the real power structure in society and why things are messed up in society. The Bible not only foretold how messed up are society will be during these times
( www.biblegateway.com...:1-7&version=KJV ) but it offers a solution to the problem which is believing in God, and Jesus Christ and following their commandments in order to attain eternal life.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 02:13 AM
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Sorry, but the bible cannot prove itself, especially when it comes to the prophecies dealing with Jesus. The gospels existed for 300 years before they were put together and inserted into the bible by a corrupt empire that was known for lying and using others ideas and cultures for their own benefit.

For all we know, the prophecies Jesus fulfilled could have been added to his story after the fact in order to make him fit the bill. They had 300, I repeat 300 years between the gospels being written and them being published into the bible.

Look up Dionysian imitatio, it was in use at the time of Jesus' ministry and Rome was more than capable of using this device to corrupt Jesus' story. The bible is neither infallible or the word of God.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 04:07 AM
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I tend to agree with you there
I call it real satanism as well.
We've got Jesus is lucifer and the worship of the Egyptian god Ra, Pan the devil,
Have we covered the Sumerians, Atlantis, Hollow Earth, transformations, illumination, Hermes, alchemy, Hiram Key, Orion Star Belt, Osiris, Horus, Isis, Templars, Knights and the all essential must have belief in a higher power yet?



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