Jesus is Lucifer the Hidden Unicorn : Saturn-Pan, God of All Time. (ArtiFACT)

reply to post by HanzHenry


Why would you need a personal theory on its origin when we know very well that it is an West Germanic language?
They may all be Indo-European, but they belong to very different branches: Germanic, Greek, Romance.
There's nothing mysterious about the origin of English, imo. The only mysterious language I know of is Basque.
All language (communication in general) is supposed to be manipulative/influential to some extent and we try to persuade each other all the time when we communicate. It has nothing to do with "witchcraft".

Originally posted by ewanlillicii
Has anyone here experienced the "Grand Illusion" successfully? I have not only loved a vessel of Lilith, but I still love her. And it thrust me into a place that the illusion referred to as the Dark Side of the Moon. It's magical, full of demons, and my head is full of awareness even as my wallet is drained of cash. Can anyone help me understand why? Andd also why she seems to be disappearing from reality even though it seems as if she is actually being kidnapped. I am very concerned for her safety.

I have a persaonal theory of what the fountain of life is and I think they would kill for it. Please help.

Write me an email: [email protected]

Could it be a 'turning of the tables' so to say? Coming from Darkness into Light, casts many NEW shadows, as the old ones dissipate... but all will be Illumined soon enough... I think?

Bro, I'd calm down if I were you, breath in and out slowly...

... Also, stay away from t.v for a few days, and don't go into third eye meditations ...

This Feels like really good advice ... for everyone. If I felt like rhyming I might.

Goodnight!

reply to post by covertpanther

I get no responses the entire thread ?? But you people listen to this rambling bs?

I'll respond. I found your first post quite interesting. I even agree with parts of it. But you provide no more evidence that what you say is true, than any one else does when it comes to theories such as yours. Not that I expect you to. No more than I expect a Christian to prove there is a god. If it's what you believe, that's fine. But the forcefulness and anger of your post is not evidence for your convictions, it is evidence of your passion.

Therefore, I don't see how you can denounce muzzleflash's attempt to share what he has learned in his own studies, when you haven't given any evidence that he is wrong, and you are right. You have given your opinion, and that is fine. I enjoyed reading it. But that's all it is. Your opinion. Just as this post is my opinion.

ETA: BTW. I would love to see you make a thread out of that first post, and include some of the sources that brought you to your conclusions. I think it would be an interesting thread.

reply to post by Klassified


Thank you for noticing brother, I get avoided time and time again on ats and it bothers me a lot..

There is no proof of the creator-consciousness; because its an INTERNAL thing as I have said. Can you take a camera in your mind, take a pic, and pull into in the EXTERNAL reality? Not a chance.

That is the difference of 'dimensions/realms/planes/levels of consciousness'. There is no bodily interaction within the other realms; you ae consciousness. That is it. How can I provide you EXTERNAL proof that you are an INTERNAL CONSCIOUSNESS - who governs many levels of consciousness?

You have to do it for yourself. Which is exactly what my reply was about. The churches and EVERYTHING in this world is created to loose the seeker in the labrynth (of the mind). Or occupy their FIVE (Phive) senses with useless sh*t. . Music for the ears, tv/visual for the eyes, food for the tongue, scents/cologne/perfume for the nose, and pleasures of the body for the nerves that allow one to feel.

All those things occupy your mind into an EXTERNAL perception; thus you dont spend anytime inside yourself, never understanding your capacity and potential as a Soul inhabiting a body.

You guys want proof? You are the proof. The churches and government and all the control our civilization has designed is the proof. To take oyu away from the inside. They dont want you to ascend to the highest levels of consciousness; or else this matrix would be useless.. Its a design, and everythign the dark intent has ever worked for.

They will not allow you to escape easily. You must find out yourself. But go ahead, delve into all this nonsense and keep wondering "why" for the rest of your life. When the physical body you operate fails to support your life force - you will be lost INTERNALLY (death is internal not an external) and be sent back on the wheel of Karma to reincarnate into the prison of Souls again.

Sounds intense? Feels dark and powerful? Well yes it is, to one who is not developed and equipped with the correct knowledge spiritually, mentally and physically. You have to power yourself up, if you want to awaken your soul energy and expand beyond.

Every person you know, or have ever met, is in an INTERNAL-slumber. A dream that they have not awoken from for aons. Its time to wake up. Realize the power of the human, and how to activate the energy system within, the chakra system that is binded and synchronized to the human body.

reply to post by covertpanther


Before I continue unloading some more information I intended to put in here eventually, I will try to explain the point of the thread.

I realize you are attempting to express the utter depth and complexity of the labyrinth, and your resulting frustrations, however I am essentially offering you the "string" that can aid in leading out, the Key to reading between the lines so to speak.

Labyrinth Mythology

Although early Cretan coins occasionally exhibit multicursal patterns,[3] the unicursal seven-course "Classical" design became associated with the Labyrinth on coins as early as 430 BC,[4] and became widely used to represent the Labyrinth – even though both logic and literary descriptions make it clear that the Minotaur was trapped in a complex branching maze.[5]

Who is the Minotaur? You! Everyone!
The Hulk/Hyde trapped in the maze of self.
The proverbial bull in the middle, half man half beast.

Minotaur

In Crete, the Minotaur was known by its proper name, Asterion,[6] a name shared with Minos' foster-father.[7]

He is the Dusk, that which is descending into the Abyss.

The solution :
Theseus

Theseus was a founder-hero, like Perseus, Cadmus, or Heracles, all of whom battled and overcame foes that were identified with an archaic religious and social order.[2] As Heracles was the Dorian hero, Theseus was the Athenian founding hero, considered by them as their own great reformer: his name comes from the same root as θεσμός ("thesmos"), Greek for "institution".

Theseus established a cult of Aphrodite Pandemos ("Aphrodite of all the People") and Peitho on the southern slope of the Acropolis.

As soon as Theseus entered the Labyrinth, he tied one end of the ball of string to the door post and brandished his sword which he had kept hidden from the guards inside his tunic. Theseus followed Daedalus' instructions given to Ariadne; go forwards, always down and never left or right. Theseus came to the heart of the Labyrinth and also upon the sleeping Minotaur. The beast awoke and a tremendous fight then occurred. Theseus overpowered the Minotaur with his strength and stabbed the beast in the throat with his sword (according to one scholium on Pindar's Fifth Nemean Ode, Theseus strangled it).[12]

Theseus used the string to escape the Labyrinth and managed to escape with all of the young Athenians and Ariadne as well as her younger sister Phaedra.

It's not cheating per se, it's using wit and finding the simplest solution.
Use the ball of string to keep track of where you came from in order to get back out.

Cut the Impossible Knot like Alexander, find solutions to today's problems by examining how the greats of old solved the same problems.

Gordian Knot

The Gordian Knot is a legend of Phrygian Gordium associated with Alexander the Great. It is often used as a metaphor for an intractable problem (disentangling an "impossible" knot) solved easily by cheating or "thinking outside the box" ("cutting the Gordian knot"):

The knot may have been a religious knot-cipher guarded by Gordian/Midas's priests and priestesses. Robert Graves suggested that it may have symbolized the ineffable name of Dionysus that, knotted like a cipher, would have been passed on through generations of priests and revealed only to the kings of Phrygia.[9]

So, in 333 BC, while wintering at Gordium, Alexander the Great attempted to untie the knot. When he could not find the end to the knot to unbind it, he sliced it in half with a stroke of his sword, producing the required ends (the so-called "Alexandrian solution"). That night there was a violent thunderstorm. Alexander's prophet Aristander took this as a sign that Zeus was pleased and would grant Alexander many victories. Once Alexander had sliced the knot with a sword-stroke, his biographers claimed in retrospect[4] that an oracle further prophesied that the one to untie the knot would become the king of Asia.[5]

This thread is about cutting the knot, about breaking the cipher so that everyone can see far.
It is about sneaking string and sword into the Labyrinth and slaying the beast and freeing the Athenians.

Will go ahead and toss a few things out quickly:

Adam and Eve = Duality
Serpent Tempting Eve = God Granting Free Will (Choice, Options, Knowledge of Good and Evil).

The 'eating of the fruit' came automatically when CreoPan the Serpent offered the choice of "eat it or don't". That was the moment of separation and knowledge. (Allegorically)

Now a few links I wanted to post but hadn't yet:

Constellations Art at Urania

Cool website worth looking into.

Ophiuchus
The Serpent Bearer. Serpentarius

Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent; the interposition of his body divides the snake constellation Serpens into two parts, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda, which are nonetheless counted as one constellation.

According to Roman era mythography,[14] the figure represents the healer Asclepius, who learned the secrets of keeping death at bay after observing one serpent bringing another healing herbs. To prevent the entire human race from becoming immortal under Asclepius' care, Zeus killed him with a bolt of lightning, but later placed his image in the heavens to honor his good works.

In medieval Islamic astronomy (Azophi's Uranometry, 10th century), the constellation was known as Al-Ḥawwaʾ "the snake-charmer".

Asclepius
Rod of Asclepius


Additional links of interest for Serpent themes in our sky:
Hydrus
Hydra

The companion to Hydra, the female water snake, he is forced to journey through Eridanus, Orion, and the Milky Way to visit his lover.[3]

Serpent Worship Wiki
Super important wiki topic/theme to really start to get a grip on this stuff.

All of this is basically a repeating system where once you learn the ropes, you can practically guess with astonishing accuracy what to look for next.

Scientific Method = Ask Questions, Develop Hypothesis
Test Hypothesis through Seeking Information
Confirm or Deny Hypothesis, convert into Theory stage if it passes.
Continue testing Theories to refine understanding.

Few more Constellations that should open people's eyes a bit more:

Apus

The Bird of Paradise

Chinese Constellations wiki

When the Ming Dynasty Chinese astronomer Xu Guangqi adapted the European southern hemisphere constellations to the Chinese system in The Southern Asterisms, he combined Apus with some of the stars in Octans to form the "Exotic Bird" (異雀, Yìquè).

The "Exotic Bird".
Bird of Paradise disambiguation wiki

Nearby is the Chameleon Constellation
And Musca the Bee.

Musca, under its original name Apis – the Bee, was introduced in the late 16th century by Isaac Bautista to fill the previously uncharted area around the southern pole and to provide nourishment for the nearby constellation Chamaeleon

We have Pegasus
Which is really interesting and has many deep connections to this entire discussion.
Pegasus Creature

The poet Hesiod presents a folk etymology if the name Pegasus as derived from pēgē "spring, well": "the pegai of Okeanos, where he was born."[2]

Also lightning is an additional proposed meaning.
Both seem to work pretty well with the ideal depicted by the creature's mythos.

And of course here is the Phoenix
The "Firebird" Constellation.

We have Tucana aka Toucan Sam.

Its name is Latin for the toucan, a South American bird.

Enter the Dorado .

Its name refers to the dolphinfish (Coryphaena hippurus), which is known as dorado in Spanish, although it has also been depicted as a swordfish.

The Dolphin, the 'Golden Fish' , the Proverbial 'Carp'.


Argo Navis ship of the Argonauts.
Relates the myths of Jason and the Golden Fleece

Side link for fun: Argus Panoptes

Originally posted by HenryBowen

Bro, I'd calm down if I were you, breath in and out slowly...

... Also, stay away from t.v for a few days, and don't go into third eye meditations ...

This Feels like really good advice ... for everyone. If I felt like rhyming I might.

Goodnight!

I agree as well completely.

Finding Calm in the Storm is what it's all about.

Also TV is extremely detrimental currently as it's heavily corrupted by self-interest rather than seeking to uplift the knowledge of mankind across the board. It could be a powerful tool of teaching but currently it is used for conditioning and indoctrination into falsehoods.

It's gotten so bad that even History channel is completely uninteresting and misleading at this point 95% of the time. The Weather channel seems to be the only people giving valid information the majority of the time, and no one really trusts their abilities so well.

It's all garbage in the end, all the "News" is scripted (and so is most of the "Alternative News outlets" for that matter which is concerning). Actors acting reading scripts, everything is edited and cut into pieces and then put into a false context to create a shallow depiction of reality with little to no depth.

Someone earlier said "This is a distraction", that's incredibly mistaken.
Everything on TV is the distraction. These bank scams and the government corruption and the wars and city crime problems....

That's the diversion the decoy, sure it's real to some extent but it's no where near as important as discovering the truth about history, humanity, our systems of living, belief, and custom. About who you really are and how do you fit into all of this?

This is a reply but also a post to everyone at the same time in general.

A lot can be learned through Disney. Three 6's are hidden in the logo along with a snake. Each movie has a message, like Pinocchio. A boy created NOT by God. Most Disney movies are about rebellion, where almost every film has the parent figure killed in the first 5 minutes (From Bambi to Finding Nemo). The bible also forbids of Magic. All I can think about it Mickey dancing around in that sorcerers hat. What Disney movie doesn't have Magic in it?

Hmmm. I took enough rest.

But my mind get's too consumed by this. I'm not going to bother with it, not gonna read, not going to post after this. Well that's what I say now.

I see too many wild ideas in my other posts. But one thing; religion doesn't have to be logical!
Maybe people made the dark triad and the love triangle not because it has any logical explanation,
but because three is hardwired in our brains. I got some examples later.

Here's something to think about:

I don't doubt the purpose of religion, it is about:

-creating beloning
-creating selfworth (by giving meaning to life)
-creating moral
-understanding the unknown

See: www.thisviewoflife.com...

Some call themselves atheists but they do believe in a way. They instead worship celebrities or brands.
Science and political parties, it takes faith. Why do people like to read Harry Potter? Same biological and psychological forces.

Essentially it's all the same.

I'm curious about those things that are universal.
Part of religion is cultural (nurture), the other part is wired (nature).

What's universal is likely nature or just coincidence.

The end of the world seems universal. Eventually yes, the world will end.
Maybe it is just our understanding of the circle of life?

The number 3 interests me. The equilateral triangle is the strongest, possibly just coincidence.

A trick people in debate use is what we call the "drieslag" in Dutch, meaning threestrike.

Somehow it works on peoples minds. Examples:

"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" and "Blood, sweat and tears."

People remind it well. I would like to know if a threestrike causes certain brain regions to activate.

Going back to religion, 666 = 3 letters, God consists of 3.

Three is basically what life is about, you get born, you live, you die.

My theory is that 3 is hardwired in our brains. I can look for such connections and I'll find them, but that doesn't make it the truth. That's why a neuroscientist should look into this. I'm not gonna bother.

Originally posted by ForbiddenDesire
I don't doubt the purpose of religion, it is about:

-creating beloning
-creating selfworth (by giving meaning to life)
-creating moral
-understanding the unknown

Yep, that's pretty much it.

Originally posted by ForbiddenDesire
Some call themselves atheists but they do believe in a way. They instead worship celebrities or brands.
Science and political parties, it takes faith. Why do people like to read Harry Potter? Same biological and psychological forces.

I must be a rare atheist, then. I don't worship anything or anyone. I design and make stuff to keep from becoming a cynical nihilist. I also like to look at all the pretty colors

I think animal symbolism is a key factor in the origins of most religions to say the least. The bull for example, a tough living creature that can toss objects like cars as if it were made paper. It could have many reasons as to why it used in myth's, considering it the male aspect of a bovine, while a cow is female, and is actually Holy in some cultures. Milk, it is divine cause it give life, which is to represent fertility, which is held in higher regard then the planets and sun.

For all we know the maze is confusing, like bull#, it just throws us off. Although I doubt this was Homers intention if he did make the story of the Minotaur. I could make up some other stuff.

Like the time a golden calf statue was about to be idolized as a god which is Golden Bull# in my view, and that some angry old guy come in,destroys the statue and kills it worshipers. Make me wonder if its a story about God conquering Bull# that day.

As for the distraction and t.v using ancient cultural symbols, shapes, or even slogans in their ads, well I guarantee you it going to be very...and I mean very distracting.

As for T.v, at least u haven't experienced that bull# yet.

reply to post by muzzleflash


You actually think you are leading people to knowledge that will guide them from the matrix that has been set over their souls? Your knowledge is the path of a student-seeker, a convoluted mess within the mind. I have been there too, still am time to time. But I know the purpose of the Soul/Human now, and its easier then going through the mazes of garbled bullsh*t.

I dont mean labrynth as in mintaur/Baal/bull/bowel/belly... Which corresponds to your intestines and digestive system (as I said in my original post, EVERYHTING is about the human body, just given stories/characters etc..).
Notice how your intestines are completely alike a labrynth? Hungry like a bull? This is your Solar Plexus chakra (yellow, which is why the bull/taurus is represented with yellow/gold).

But that is not what I ment by labrynth; please dont throw that greek mythology garble at me, my friend. Stories are for children, or un developed minds who have no TRUE knowledge, and therefore the deeper understanding of the story will never be udnerstood by those minds, compared to the ones who created them (stories/myths).

I understand what your doing here; its a good intent in your heart to share what you have learned, as we all do! But things get very deep and twisted when you get closer to the truth - but the BOTTOM LINE OF ALL TEACHINGS:

THE HUMAN BEING (BODY, MIND, SOUL) IS THE MOST AMAZING THING. WHEN "GOD" (I dont follow religion btw, just quoting) SAID HE MADE MAN IN HIS IMAGE - HE DID NOT MEAN THE HUMAN BODY. THE SOUL IS THE IMAGE OF THE CREATOR, THE HIGHER STATES OF YOUR CONSCIOSNESS IS THE REFLECTION OF THAT WHICH CREATED YOU AND GAVE YOU LIFE TO EXPERIENCE.

This is the most important thing, the root to all things. Your soul, which is of course connected to the SOURCE that created you. Hard to swallow? Love your creator, for oyu would never understand anything other then self if Creator chose not to give oyu the choice (fruit of knowledge).

If you are more comfortable with being in the human body, and pleasing your 5 senses, and thinking/'photocopying' knowledge.. For aons. Then so be it. But Im here to finish my original post in this thread - you are so much more, thre is so much to you that you cannot currently understand. You must low your experience and learn to find the ROOT of SELF again - which is the bridge to your beautiful and all loving creator.

This isnt new age #, I am no hippy, nor do I piss around when it comes to the Most High and governing my life in the lowest and highest states of consciousness. I am only here with TRUTH, nothing more, nothing less. If you want the answers to anything, everything, and nothing, go inside and connect with yourself. Learn where your personality came fro, learn where your awareness came from, learn where your thoughts and feelings came from!

You see; you are not a body! You are not some evolved caveman! That is the biggest lie, and Darwin is the biggest bull#ter the world has ever seen! OFC TPTB WANT EVERYONE TO THINK THEY CAME FROM APES! THEY WILL STAY PERCEIVING EXTERNAL, RATHER GOING INTERNAL AND LEARNING SELF.

For now that is all I will bring; I have put alot of knowledge into this thread, and made it SIMPLE for those who are reading my replies. Im not copying and pasting anything, nor quoting a million sources. Just giving you Truth as you need it, because I KNOW, you individual conscious beings reading these words as I type, are my family, rooted from the same source.

We all just need to get back there and activate

Thanks for the thread, I hope you do not get offended by my words. I hope you are fine with that which I have brought here brother.
To the others following; thank you to those starring, and paying attention, find yourSELF, there is nothing more important.

reply to post by covertpanther

MEANING - when you die, you will see your light, and be TRICKED, then sent back to Earth with NO memories of the life you just lived.

What do you mean by "when you die, you will see your light, and be TRICKED"? Thank you.

reply to post by hellnotes


What this means - the matrix is not a physical thing - society is not the matrix - society is the REFLECTION of the matrix.

The matrix exists in the MIND and ASTRAL realm. These two realms, we exist in, as well as perception of the phsyical-EXTERNAL realm. When we say "we need to Wake Up" - it means wake up INTERNALLY, within the internal matrix.

Karma is a wheel of time - which is a complete illusion that tricks the Soul. After you death, the seperation of mind/soul and body, the YOU the awwareness with your memories of the life you just lived and feelings and everything you experienced - goes INTERNAL to another 'place', I will call 'realm' again.

Within this realm there are many stories - but that is all it is, stories. You are an ALL KNOWING SOUL - who is tricked and decieved in the lower dimension - to keep you in this prison there is a "NET" that catches the SOUL (you) after death - this net turns you around, wipes your memory, and you incarnate into another baby fetus, doing it all over again.

The only way to break the matrix (Ma's tricks, which is the in organic womb) is to activate the spirit body, combined with the activated mind and human vessel/body. And transform yourself, to highest states of consciousness. Thus you are more powerful then ever, and perceive beyond the matrix - EXTERNALLY and the INTERNAL one (As above so below).

Everything is a construct of geometric traps over the soul. The ones the Masons (Ma's - sons) look at as the one 'grand architect'. This gets you into deep nkowledge of multiplex dimensions etc.

For a better understanding, the Zionist hollywood (Holy Wood) owners created a movie called "The Cube". Go watch that. Even watch Matrix from the beginning to the last series. The owners of Hollywood are in depth in the esoteric and occult (Oc - cult, cult of OC - En-OC).

Hope that explains enough for you to understand the construct of the trap we call Karma/reincarnation.

reply to post by covertpanther

Thanks for your reply. May I ask some more questions?

What this means - the matrix is not a physical thing - society is not the matrix - society is the REFLECTION of the matrix. The matrix exists in the MIND and ASTRAL realm.

I agree with this, except for I have one question. How does the matrix exist in the astral realm?

The only way to break the matrix (Ma's tricks, which is the in organic womb) is to activate the spirit body, combined with the activated mind and human vessel/body.

Just to see if I’m following you…when you say “activate the spirit body”, are you talking about the merkaba? And if you activate your spirit body, then you can leave the matrix, this dimension (ascension), right? Then what happens to your body here, does it die or leave with you? And you’re saying that if we don’t ascend from here, while alive in this body in this dimension, we can’t ever break free from reincarnating here, correct? So how did we get trapped here in the first place?

Everything is a construct of geometric traps over the soul.

What do you mean by “geometric traps”?

I’ve watched The Matrix series a few times. I haven’t seen “ Cube”, although I’m familiar with the storyline. I’ll go ahead and watch it though, per your recommendation.

reply to post by muzzleflash

I guess you decided to go ahead and call it quits after all. That's cool. I enjoyed it, and it gave me some things to think about. Thanks for the info, and the insight.