Jesus is Lucifer the Hidden Unicorn : Saturn-Pan, God of All Time. (ArtiFACT)

reply to post by covertpanther

Okay I cant go on any longer.. As A LOT of this information is not true at all; but the convoluted works of an occult and kabbalah student. These teachings are ment to lead the student into a maze, and never find the way out, thus bringing false understanding, meanwhile the 'masters' of the teachings (or I should say, the controllers of this planet) laugh at the student, and controll everything.

Agreed! This is the distortions.

When if they do the work they came to do and go within, meditate, ask questions, see through ALL the programming including their schools of thought, and start to find their inner guidance and small still voice within, they will gain more wisdom than all this pseudo intelligent and even ego bunk!

Axis Mundi

Want to post this again and explain it in depth for those who haven't got it yet.

The axis mundi (also cosmic axis, world axis, world pillar, columna cerului, center of the world,world tree), in religion or mythology, is the world center or the connection between Heaven and Earth. As the celestial pole and geographic pole, it expresses a point of connection between sky and earth where the four compass directions meet.[citation needed] At this point travel and correspondence is made between higher and lower realms.[1] Communication from lower realms may ascend to higher ones and blessings from higher realms may descend to lower ones and be disseminated to all.[2] The spot functions as the omphalos (navel), the world's point of beginning.[3][4]

This is of course a relative concept, but the issue here is that people assume this refers to an actual location on Earth like maybe the Axis or even some think it's energy points on the map or whatever.

This is all incredibly short sighted, and so I will show where the real Axis Mundi is for everyone to discover for themselves if they haven't already.

Ok it's in between the Sky and Earth? BETWEEN ?
In the MEETING of the 4 compass points?

That's YOU! That's your exact point of consciousness inside of you!

That's Jesus, that's Satan.
That's all of the Gods of mythology.

You are the Mesocosm of the Universe. The MID point between that which is above, and that which is below.

This is technically true according to physics and philosophy.
No matter where you plot a point on a infinite graph, it's the middle point.
Even if 'matter' isn't infinite, space has to be.
So you are the middle of the Universe no matter where you go.

That's why I linked info about Narcissus and other things of that nature because it's very important anyone finding their true inner source of knowledge (Int) to attempt to refrain from allowing it to destroy them. Constant appraisals need to be conducted to make sure that one remains in balance with the elements.

That's what's wrong with the world today so to speak. Everyone is out of their elements, knows nothing of how elements correlate to actual reality through translation.
It's assumed the "elements of alchemy" are literal in terms of Chemistry when instead it's allegorical of a literal construct of the dual nature of the universe we exist within.

By "Balance" what I would suggest to consider is something along the lines of respecting all nature with dignity rather than seeking to manipulate everything for one's own self-interest.

Co-existence with our surroundings is the most sustainable option for how civilization could operate.
Currently on Earth people are willing to pollute and harm anyone or anything without really caring so much.
They aren't aware of anything resembling the truth in most cases, they worship idols and deny it, they pray only for self-gain and call it righteousness.

They are willing to conduct fraud in business and cover up highly questionable government abuses. This is because of "BELIEF" , and the willingness to do wrong for a paycheck or master.

What kind of system is that? It's one of pure ignorance and deceit.
I will have nothing of it. No corporation, no government, no club or society, nothing.

They are all corrupted by the desire to use the 'Gods' against man for their own selfish desires.
So I am going to continue teaching people what I have found out how to read the signs and know the Gods and the Myths and their History of Govt and Commerce.

This whole thread is about giving anyone who desires it the QI to free themselves from those mental prisons they have been trapped into by smoke and mirrors of deception.

Once you know the truth of these ancient skeletons they will no longer haunt you. You can set them free from their prisons so to speak.

At the worst I could get people to argue and read stuff, so even in that case everything will work out fine in my opinion because people are getting way too slack with their minds. I know I am mostly dumb and I suck at puzzles and that's why I share so others can help take this stuff further in more creative directions.

reply to post by muzzleflash


I appreciate all the homework you've done, very interesting but hard to take it all in in one go.

Could you just tell me in one or two short sentences what exactly it is your conclusion?

I always find summaries easier to grasp.

No joke, im waiting for it!

reply to post by muzzleflash


I agree, we are the balancing point in the universe. We are both physical and spiritual, positive and negative, we have both a body (physical) and soul (spiritual). You cannot have one without the other and without the middle point (us), nothing would exist and everything would fall apart.

Think about it, what perceives the world other than consciousness? Nothing, so consciousness (us) MUST be vital to the universe's existence.

Father (spirit), Mother (Earth), Son (us). This is the real Trinity and we are the fulcrum, the Son.

reply to post by muzzleflash


This is a huge distraction thread, again the basic premise of the thread is the english language is evil. If you translate the words you use to some other language to spanish, russian, chinese, japanese, you lose the meaning and therefore your arguments go to garbage. You use the same technique Freemasons use in order to hide their messages to their initiates. Therefore this whole thread is a pro-freemason thread, because the Freemasons Teach up is down, and down is up, ; black is white, and white is black; god is satan and satan is god, etc. People who don't know the truth are unknowingly becoming initiates to the Satanic system of the world. Then with your logic, you can justify that good = evil and there is nothing wrong in killing, stealing, lying, unless when it happens to you it suddenly becomes a big problem.

reply to post by Emergingtruth


The premise of the thread is not that English is evil, only that all languages share common roots and intersect each other to hide symbolism and meaning. What exactly is this thread distracting us from?

I mean no insult when I say this, but...

I work at a veterans hospital and I deal with a lot of mental health patients. More than a few of them have spoke to me about the same things that the OP has posted and in the same distracted way. Snippets of information from different and unrelated sources pieced together so it almost makes sense. Making connections where there are none, I believe the term for it is "Apophenia". Sometimes it can be the precurser to mental illness. These folks combine bible verses with mythology and stories about their own lives or people they've met in the past with people they've seen on TV or read about in books.

I've read muzzleflash's posts before and have agreed with him about a lot of things so I hope this isnt the case. I'm not saying that this stuff isnt true or that you shouldnt post it. Just saying be careful with it and maybe talk to a mental health professional about it before you get too deep. Like I said, I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just speaking from personal experience.

WOW! I think I need a drink! lol Love the thread Op! Great job in deciphering words, I know it HAD/HAS to have taken a long time!!

This thread really makes me think the tree of knowledge (we are the branches of thought) is working in so many ways its making my head spin. So many people of their version of what a Word means. It's never ending kinda like a wheel.

Language is made of letters and they create words that then go on to create expressions. With each word of expression there is a different view and or perspective all together. What you/me/we experience is the result.

I believe in the Word being manifested into the material as an expression/experience/his-story.

We all have a his-story. We are all both male and female split from one energy. Yin/yang and a positive and negative side. How exciting huh?

This too was Adam/Atom/Jesus (the beginning and the last~ Alpha and Omega)! After many lives he climbed the ladder to become Christ.. just as well all do... if we want. Everything in the middle of this loaf of bread is just slices of time and his-story (our story).

I saw someone say we get 70 years ... well... some die at or before 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 yrs of age and a person is LUCKY if they get to 70! Come on now.. use your brain. It doesn't make sense to say we get one chance. I have read the Bible a few times to know it speaks of Baptism and that is exactly what it is in the literal sense. Do we symbolically show a rebirth in the physical body by choice....the last 2000 plus years? Yes!

Jesus may have been Lucifer in the beginning, before Adam and stories of creation... the fall.

When you fall what do you do or try to do? Rise up! Thats what we all must do as we have fallen. This is how and why Christ paves the way. He went from Lucifer (possibly) to Adam ~ other embodiments such as Job for instance and then on to be (soul) Jesus Christ!

Again Op... good work!!

To the one who said something about Satan. In my case, if God exist, He will be the one who will judge my life.
It's not up to you to decide.

This whole thread is about giving anyone who desires it the QI to free themselves from those mental prisons they have been trapped into by smoke and mirrors of deception.

Yes I desire this, though it started out very dark. I wanted to know the human psyche to manipulate and deceive my way into become successful and powerful. I wanted that because I desired revenge, I felt society had betrayed me.

Anyway, I no longer do I desire it, for one I don't want to become that what I actually despise. At college there was a students guild, they had weird rituals, wore suits, we watched their pictures, I could see the body language (I researched into this, and use it) that are called power poses. We joked about them being the Illuminati and about getting in the group to sabotage them. Never happened because I quit the education.
(I checked their site it has changed, but guess what symbol was on my screen in the middle, the pyramid)

Instead I want to use it to defend myself against those who use these tricks, and I want to open the eyes of people about how much they are influenced in life. It's difficult to find people who will listen though, most got the illusion of free will. Free will exists, but most people are unknowingly influenced by numerous factors, I'm not even free from that, but I am working on neutralizing it, becoming fully immune to it might be not realistic.

A little personal story, anyway, if you want to understand what drives you to do things, don't look into one thing, look broadly. Seek the answer in:

-Biochemical science (think happy chemicals and unhappy like dopamine)
-Psychology (think cognitive biases)
-Sociology (acceptance, cultural biases)
-Evolutionary psychology (nature instead of nurture)
-Alternative books (dark books, like the black prince by Machiavelli and The 48 Laws of Power. Perhaps Sun Tzu - Art of War)

I'm now looking more into neuroscience and that what is (partly) ignored by science; religion. Some of this information is free to read on the internet, or you can find it in books, I will share my knowledge here.
I shall share what I think and what I know, always question it. Don't take it as candy. I dislike how college always present things as the truth, there's little room for me to question what is true or not.

You can use your new found knowledge in life. You start to understand your fear, why you crave things, you'll understand relationships better etc.

But the truth might not be pretty. And it's not even needed per se. I have neighbors who amaze me, I don't think they are read into it, but they seem to get it. Loving, authentic people, who aren't that foolish to buy what's popular but what's practical, who seem to know what relationships are about etc. Knowledge isn't everything, it just takes the right mindset and being self aware.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


The best way I can describe not only this thread but reality is by using the following example:
When someone starts searching for the truth about reality they automatically realize that they are walking in an elaborate maze of truth and lies. The best way to get out of this elaborate maze of truth and lies, is to be able elevate your self and thinking to not focus on the elaborate maze but focus on what's around the maze. Once you understand what's around the maze ( or get the bird's eye view of the maze ) then you can efficiently navigate through the maze of truth and lies that surrounds us everyday.

The best way, to elevate yourself and your thinking is to read the Bible. Through out history, the Bible has been the most attacked book on the face of this earth, not because it is a book of lies, but because it is a book of truth. Many people have died simply for telling others the truths that are found in the Bible, especially in Bible Prophecy. This thread just aids in the attacks that have been on the Bible, by confusing people into believing a lie that is only supported by wordplay.

Apologies I haven't read the entire thread before posting, but I think you can do al this 'one thing leads to another'with anything. You really can.

reply to post by Emergingtruth


The bible is a maze in itself. It causes more confusion than any other book on Earth. The 40,000+ denominations and thousands of versions of the bible prove that.

The bible does not elevate you unless you know how to separate the truth from the lies, and the bible is full of lies. It is not the word of God, but of Satan. It causes so much confusion for a reason, because that's its purpose.

If you believe the bible is infallible, you are doing yourself a disservice. The bible and Christianity has helped to shape society as it is today, and you see how screwed up it is.

This is confusing, Con-Fusing. con= to scam, fusing=act of production through joining. It is also interesting, inter pronounced also as enter = to transition into, resting= being dormant. This is surely a path to ascend or "ass end". I know, mine is only word play and you are establishing the root meanings and possible new words development by purpose.

reply to post by TheJourney

where did you get your ideas of planetary characteristics?

From planetary characteristics.

Let us open the Door to All and see what pops out next:

Mephistopheles
1590s, the evil spirit to whom Faust sold his soul in the German legend, from German (1587), of unknown origin. According to the speculation of eminent Göthe scholar K.J. Schröer (1886) it is a compound of Hebrew mephitz "destroyer" + tophel "liar" (short for tophel sheqer, literally "falsehood plasterer;" cf. Job xiii:4). Klein writes that the names of devils in the Middle Ages "are in most cases derived from Hebrew."

Destroyer = Mephitz in HEBREW

AncientEgyptOnline.co.uk

Sekhmet's main cult centre was in Memphis (Men Nefer) where she was worshipped as "the destroyer" alongside her consort Ptah (the creator) and Nefertum (the healer).

So at MEMPHIS, Sekhmet was called "The Destroyer" - Mephitz in Hebrew??

I can't find anyone else that knows this so it's definitely something worth pointing out.

Why does Egyptian and Hebrew equate so incredibly closely in this instance?

Look at what our "Prized Etymology" website claims:

Memphis
ancient city of Egypt, from Greek form of Egyptian Mennefer, literally "his beauty," from men "his" + nefer "beauty" (as in Queen Nefertiti, literally "Beauty has Come"). A reference to pharaoh Pepi I (24c. B.C.E.). The city in Tennessee, U.S., was so named 1826 for obscure reasons. Related: Memphian (1590s); Memphitic (1580s).

They are wrong clearly. Easily proven that Memphis = Destroyer literally.
This is just one of the endless stream of blunders they have been making while leaving the truth only 2-3 steps away for any seasoned researcher. It's silly. Cover up or just really low standards?

Memphis TN Pyramid Arena

Now we can understand this much better.

From 2002 to 2006, the annual Church of God in Christ international holy convocations were held here.

This is really standing out like a sore thumb.

Church of God in Christ

Something seems really really bizarre about this all don't you folks think???
Am I going to far to suggest that Golden Shaft of Wheat represents their intent to "Harvest the Gold"?

Ok so they got their own etymology wrong, yet no one's there complaining at them. No one cares, not a big deal, go back to sleep, quit thinking about things, pay your taxes, go to the ME DI SIGN and meet the reaper.

reply to post by blindprometheus


It's so Con-fusing I'm getting it mixed up with the other thread about Jesus being a unicorn. It's a simiar word play game.

ETA
Oops or ops I am in the unicorn thread!

Correction; i'm getting it mixed up with Jesus is Prince George, future king of England.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Brahma , Rama, Ramayana , all of this is intimately related with the word RAM.
RAM means "GOD" "Most High", etc.
Ramesses, etc. Then we have Aries, Mary, Mars, and March. Abram, etc.
Ramyana is "Path of the Ram"

Ptah - Pitah = Father

I kinda like this image here.

Interesting premise for a thread.
Well put together

reply to post by SLAYER69


Isn't Ra Egyptian for the sun?

reply to post by violet


Yes, but like many things in Egyptology it's a bit complicated...

Egyptian God-Ra

Ra and the sun

To the Egyptians, the sun represented light, warmth, and growth. This made the sun deity very important, as the sun was seen as the ruler of all that he created. The sun disk was either seen as the body or eye of Ra. Ra was the father of Shu and Tefnut, whom he created. Shu was the god of the wind, and Tefnut was the goddess of the rain. Sekhmet was the Eye of Ra and was created by the fire in Ra's eye. She was a violent lioness.

reply to post by Nicks87


I think you're right and also meds or drugs can induce these thoughts.

My husband soon to be ex has these thoughts. It's more extreme though. He thinks he controls the weather and has actually convinced some people he can.

He has been Jesus, and is also an alien in the guise of a human, who came to earth to help out.
The truth is he was befriended by Rosicrucians who filled his head with this . He was told he was " the one". Aren't they all lol Talk about an ego.