The Afterlife Revealed... Step By Step

Originally posted by raymundoko
reply to post by Rainbowresidue

 

You're still confused. He said there is probably a scientific explanation for what you see. That's all I said. I just Googled functioning schizophrenic and thats the first link I got. I also never said anything about you being unfit for society. That's just you being overly defensive. I simply said there is more than likely a scientifix explanation for what you see. I also like that you care about spelling. Mobile devices don't seem to care as much.

My field of science is atmospheric. I wouldn't attempt to give you a proper diagnosis, but I know enough to refer you to a neurologist.

I am not confused one bit. You are the one who is trying to tell me that I am sick, which isn't true.( On a website, where you don't even know me.) You are quite new here, so let me give you some advice. Instead of picking on members of this website, why don't you try to answer to the post of the thread instead.

What is your opinion about afterlife?
There I got the ball rolling for you. Now please get off my back.

God Bless,

reply to post by Rainbowresidue


My version of the afterlife is exactly what the bible says. The soul itself dies and the dead are conscious of nothing.

God rememebers every detail of us and one day we will be resurrected to paradisical life.

reply to post by sled735



i totally believe there is so MUCH more than we think.it sounds like "billy",had HIS own experience,& we all,have our own different experiences.i believe that "orbs",are spiritual energy of the deceased.other than that- "someone" when to alot of trouble just to "create" people to live & then just die.. that's it? I think it is all about tests,throughout our life.i have seen "apparitions",with my own eyes.,of the deceased...i believe that the moment of death-there will be a instantaneous transition/transformation,of some sort...ya know,like the maggot turns into a fly,the caterpillar turns into a butterfly,a snake sheds his skin.,& on & on..kind of like a metamorphysis..i must say this is a great,& really "deep" subject.

Originally posted by aries58
reply to post by sled735

 

i totally believe there is so MUCH more than we think.it sounds like "billy",had HIS own experience,& we all,have our own different experiences.i believe that "orbs",are spiritual energy of the deceased.other than that- "someone" when to alot of trouble just to "create" people to live & then just die.. that's it? I think it is all about tests,throughout our life.i have seen "apparitions",with my own eyes.,of the deceased...i believe that the moment of death-there will be a instantaneous transition/transformation,of some sort...ya know,like the maggot turns into a fly,the caterpillar turns into a butterfly,a snake sheds his skin.,& on & on..kind of like a metamorphysis..i must say this is a great,& really "deep" subject.

Thank you for posting. I agree with you 100%. It is a transformation of some sort.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by Meaningless

 

What will nothing be like? Everything comes out of nothing.

Well put together thread btw, interesting account, seems to have some similarities with a certain hallucinogenic trip.

edit on 17-8-2013 by woodwardjnr because: (no reason given)

The only one who can make something out of nothing is God.

reply to post by raymundoko



I guess if I'm not the only one ( read all 12 pages of this thread with many more people sharing their experiences), there must be some truth to it after all - afterlife and spirits-, or are you going to call all of us sick in the head?

May peace and God be with you.

Very interesting, it is supposed to be a real life experience right? It's not a metaphorical thing or something right? I mean is there a note in the book saying that it shouldn't be taked literally?

Anyway, I don't like to try to convice people that there is an afterlife because I am not myself and people have the right to think whatever they want.

But there are people I would believe 100% what they say if I see the're is no reason to lie. One of them is a great-uncle I have, he was in comatose state around 10 years ago, I didn't know about this until about 1 year ago he told me this story: He said two thing I remember quite well: One is that he was able to see himself (from above) lying on the bed in the hospital, second thing is that he was standing in a hallway and it had something like light walls, I don't know how to say it since I'm not a native speaker, but he said there was people walking through the walls, ones were getting in and others were getting out.

So I think he was in some place...you know, that should suggest there is an afterlife. By the way, he is a serious person, and he's only like 55 so he is very lucid and doesn't have any need to lie about it or to get attention.

I almost can't wait to die and I don't care how that sounds. This world has gone passed the tipping point and will never return to the place we knew just a decade or so ago. I'd be OK with going home...

reply to post by Rainbowresidue

Sorry to see you're getting attacked on this thread by people who do not believe in any life after death or in spirits.
While I do know of relatives who have seen other entities, I myself have not seen these entities but they did mention it was a blessing to be able to see what others could not.

Some will not believe something they have never seen or experienced first hand. I have seen physical manifestations of something I could not explain on more than one occassion. In fact on one night someone who saw the first of three things that moved by itself that night when I approached ran for his life obviously not believing what he was seeing. I did not know if he was another atheist or whatever. If he was he probably thought based on one odd experience it was just really odd or some kind of trick I must have set up. I thought it was amusing when I accidentally put one atheist who did not believe in anything paranormal into a crisis after he thought there was no way possible all the oddball things he saw around me could be possible. He was living in the same suite as me. Now he may have been his chess champion in his High School but he wasn't necessarily the brightest.

I thought his entire High School must be really stupid at chess. I beat him 8 games in a row. I thought it was easy. Remembering stuff like me saying "I wish it would rain." and then out of a clear blue sky one storm popped up right on campus and it rained within 2 hours of me saying it. No other rain in the state and he thought that was strange. For being an atheist, I thought he was goofy.

I wonder what he would have thought if he saw the dust devil that formed around me one day? I thought it was pretty cool. It moved with me. I was in the eye until we got to my dorm building and we both stopped. He'd probably come up with some theory that some people may have special abilities.

I have wondered if I'm really in a coma in the real world and created this entire universe to cope. I think about something strange and it often happens. Not everything though. If everything I see is something I created in my mind it would explain a lot. For instance when I was watching the stock market in 2009, I noticed if you drop the first 6 from 666.79, the Multi year SP500 low, you have my birthday.

I believe in the paranormal. Others will not until they see it and can't figure it out. Even then some will try to come up with alternative reasons. Maybe like the one I thought of where I am in a coma and that this reality might be a fabricated extremely advanced simulation.

It's easy for anyone to say they saw a spirit or enough evidence to suggest an afterlife but that does not mean there is one. I only hope for you to see the lies before your only life ends....

reply to post by Meaningless


I can easily turn your same words against your opinion on the afterlife...

It's also easy for anyone to say that there is no afterlife, but that does not mean there isn't one.

The problem with your belief that there is no afterlife, is there have been many documented cases of NDE's. These experiences come from people in all walks of life. Many of there experiences are similar in what they describe. Even ancient scripts and the bible speak of an after life. Considering that alone, gives more credence of a possible after life.

Yet again, we don't have physical proof just like you don't have any proof that there is no afterlife. To say you hope people see the lies before they die, sounds like you already have all the answers. Science deals only with the physical aspects of life not spiritual or paranormal. You're justified in having your opinions, but to claim people are lying and making up stories just because you haven't personally experienced it, doesn't make it so.

Science has been proven wrong many times. Just for that reason alone, I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket.

reply to post by Rainbowresidue


Lets say for the sake of argument that you are sick and imagined Martha. How then would naysayers address the neighbor that knew Martha in real life and validated your description? Would they say you imagined the neighbor or made up the entire story? If that's the case, lets just discredit every unusual personal experience ever stated here on ATS as being attributed to some sickness or drug trip.

Who is more deranged here, the person making the claim or the person issuing the remote internet based health assessment to counter what the person just said?

Great stuff rainbow, ignore the online heath professional's diagnostics.

reply to post by orionthehunter


Thank you so much for your kindness. This one person upset me more than it should have.
It's very nice of you, and I enjoyed reading your post.


Thanks again, much appreciated.

Originally posted by oldmeatwad
reply to post by Rainbowresidue

 

Lets say for the sake of argument that you are sick and imagined Martha. How then would naysayers address the neighbor that knew Martha in real life and validated your description? Would they say you imagined the neighbor or made up the entire story? If that's the case, lets just discredit every unusual personal experience ever stated here on ATS as being attributed to some sickness or drug trip.

Who is more deranged here, the person making the claim or the person issuing the remote internet based health assessment to counter what the person just said?

Great stuff rainbow, ignore the online heath professional's diagnostics.

Thank you so much.

And it wasn't just one neighbor who saw the spirit of Martha, therefore confirming afterlife for me.

I'm afraid that this is not so. When your spirit is disconnected from the physical body, ie. death - then your still here in this world, but things are different. First of all colors are gone, you see the world in a blue-grayish color. Your feelings are still with you, but they are much stronger and purer. Died sad? Your are still sad when you are dead. Died angry? You are still angry when you are dead. You can also see other spirits and feel their emotions, some are hostile and some are friendly. Also, your thoughts can create reality here, so if you think that the devil will cause you pain he will - even though he does not exist - it's all in your mind. If you see a loved one, it may just be a figment of your imagination. If you don't have a clear identity or self you may forget yourself here and disappear.You see, emotions are not connected to the physical body, but your soul. You can move around freely and even out into space if you so want to.

Originally posted by Agent008
My father died of a stroke 3 hours ago. I just got home from the hospital and somehow came across your thread. Thank you it helps thinking my dad is flying around with other souls, he always was the life of the party I'm sure his soul buddies missed him.

I'm sorry to hear about your father. I'm sure he is having the "time of his life" after shedding the constrictive shell we call our body.

I'm glad you found some comfort in this thread. You were led here by your guide(s).

Peace to you.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by sled735

 

Okay .... I was at Barnes and Nobels yesterday and I couldn't find the book.
But I did find one called 'Afterlife' by Barry Eaton.
Flipping though it ... it looked VERY similar.
So I bought it. I'll read it when I'm done with the Edgar Cayce book.

The book is available online at Amazon. Hit the link in my OP.

Please share with us if the book you bought has any major differences in his/her experiences.

Originally posted by raymundoko
reply to post by Rainbowresidue

 

This is not an attempt to insult at all, but typically the "gift of sight" is some type of mental disorder. Often times Schizophrenia.

en.wikipedia.org...

The "mental disorder" is called "having one's third eye open", which is caused by opening the pineal gland. It allows people to experience things in the spiritual world that others cannot.
There is a difference in having one's third eye open, and Schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is caused when the pineal gland is open and stays open, which is hypothesized to release too much D-M-T. This causes the person to be unable to sleep. The ***, and the lack of sleep causes hallucinations.

Hallucinations conjured up from the mind are different than having the ability to see what lies behind the veil.

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Thanks to everyone for your responses. I wish I had time to address each one individually, but I have to get ready for work.

Have a good night, Everyone, and thank you for making this an awesome thread.

reply to post by Rainbowresidue


Yeah, us pesky educated people who prefer reason to lunacy. And yes, I would absolutely say a large percentage of people who claim to REGULARLY see visions or otherworldly ghostly figures have a neurological disorder. Sometimes people's minds play tricks on them and you get the occasional one off, but for the most part I think there is a reasonable explanation. Even if that reasonable explanation is what some people consider the unreasonable acceptance that demons are real and absolutely have the ability to affect our lives, especially if we don't heed the warnings of the apostles who said in acts that people invite demons and their influence by dabbling in spiritism..similar to that fairy you have in your avatar.

For the person who lost their dad a few hours ago, I believe you will see your father again one day in the paradise. It won't be a ghostly afterlife but a physical world promised in Revelation 21:3,4