All Tribes Of Israel WAKE UP in the name of Jesus Christ!!!!

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You are blessed, bring many into the kingdom brother, for you are wise and was wise enough to see that. You will get very far. I'm going to pray for you tonight, keep me in your prayers to.

We are in the Jewish year 5773. 227 years for the coming of a saviour?

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They are not going to listen. Not yet at any rate, they're not ready to listen. They still have stoney hearts. Soon perhaps, but not yet.

Originally posted by cass1dy09
We are in the Jewish year 5773. 227 years for the coming of a saviour?

Look in the Torah. Since when has Adonai ever kept the time of men? He does things in his time, not ours. That lesson should be taken from Abraham and Sarah.

Every single generation thinks they live in the end times, that's actually
a fact by the way, religion is such a waste of someones life, its immoral,
its obviously a brain washing tool, i cannot fathom going through life
always believing in my life time the world will end.......

Its almost like religious folks just need something to worry about.
an entire life driven by fear..... so strange.

You have listed 12 tribes who went 'North' to leave Babylon and disappeared. Its a bit like the missing Roman legion in the UK they toddled off north and went missing.

Do you honestly not think that after virtually 2000 years, despite the strong traditional way of life and observation, that huge groups of people have disappeared into the multitudes by choice. Throughout that time people have left their traditional heritage for various reasons and today Israel perhaps is not the most ideallic country many would want to live in, despite a lingering echo of kinship to that land.

Your call is sad because it may be virtually impossible to identify those people's ancestors, despite DNA and in truth when did we last have any contact with El Elohim and would El Elohim recognize the world today as the land of his original garden?

The book of Revelation is not predictions or prophecies of historical events.It is written in metaphor and signs.The 12 genetic tribes of Israel are all dispersed(over 2,600 years ago) never to be again ,,..including the Jews.The 144,000 are not descendants of Jews.The scriptures clearly states All 12 tribes of Israel.Israel split into 2 kingdoms.The northern 10 tribes were Israel and the southern 2 Tribes were Judah(Jews).

A prayer will not save anyone.Have you not read in the scriptures ....you are saved(it is a process not an event) BY grace through faith WHICH is not of your own it is of God it is not of works least any man should boast.You have contradicted every word in those scriptures.You believe your prayer will save you..it will not...you believe your faith will save you ... it will not....you believe your works will save you..they will not.ALL of it is of God.It is GODS grace that he is saving ALL of mankind.That is the good news .....not the fear and hatred .

No one can choose to be saved.God does all the choosing all the seeking and all the finding.God is 100% sovereign and in control of it ALL.Man has ZERO to do with his salvation it is ALL given.There is no room at all to boast or do anything to receive it..It is God that is doing ALL the saving from the beginning until the end...No man can change himself.No one can lift themselves up by their own shoelaces.

The book of Revelation is about one thing only.The unveiling of Yahoshua(God is salvation).....The testimony of Yahoshua IS the spirit of prophecy...nothing else is....there is no cataclysmic death doom and destruction coming upon Earth.The book of Revelation is written in metaphors(words) and signs(numbers) NOTHING in it is a literal historical event equivalent.

There is no literal"144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel.Paul clearly stated the history of Israel is types and shadows...allegory.He said Hagar was Mt. Sinai and Jerusalem was an allegory just as genetic Israel is.He counted his membership as a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin as dung!

You can help save no one .You can't even save yourself.Why can't you be civil to those whom you are "claiming" to help be saved.The only folks you have been kind to are the ones that agree with you.Therefore your statements mean nothing...they are empty piety full of guile....they are condescending religious rhetoric... nothing more.Nothing you have said is even close to being scriptural or infinitely more importantly.... the Truth.God has caused a strong delusion that you would believe a lie.

Simply stated ...The Gospel is this.Yahoshua is ......God is salvation..the savior of ALL mankind.Yahoshua did not fail in his purpose.Not one will be lost.All mankind will be saved...and none of it will be by the effort of anything of any man.God is doing ALL things according to God's will and purposes.All who believe anything less don't believe in God is salvation.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

John didn't taste death before he saw Jesus coming in His kingdom. That was fulfilled when John was on Patmos.

If you look at these two verses, Matthew 16, verses 27 and 28, it starts out with Jesus talking about Peter's objection to Jesus' announcement that he was going to be killed by the leaders of the Jew's temple. He is using a practical example to make his point, which is that one must be willing to loose his life to save his soul.
Then he says that when the day of judgment comes onto the earth, people will get what they deserve (which should be understood as meaning that those temple leaders will be punished for rejecting and killing Jesus).
This is the event, the judgment on the temple, that some of those (plural in the Greek) within his hearing will be alive to know of.

Originally posted by 2WitnessesArrived
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You are blessed, bring many into the kingdom brother, for you are wise and was wise enough to see that. You will get very far. I'm going to pray for you tonight, keep me in your prayers to.

Amen. You are in my prayers also son of the Most High.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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They are not going to listen. Not yet at any rate, they're not ready to listen. They still have stoney hearts. Soon perhaps, but not yet.

What's that matter brother? We're told to preach, not convert. Noah preached for 120 years without a conversion. Lol

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My point was that what Jesus said would happen in regards to that verse was fulfilled in John when he received the vision that became the book of Revelation. He "saw" the Son of Man coming in His kingdom before he tasted death.

Jesus, according to the original text, was talking about people in the plural who would still be alive when they "see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
The Greek word is horaó which means "see" but usually understood figuratively meaning to know or understand or be aware of.
An example could be the angel making the announcement of the coming of Jesus, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel . . ."
Where the angel when he says "behold" is not saying to literally see all of these things right then, in his presence, but to understand what he is talking about.
So what Jesus was saying as that those he are telling this, will be aware that he has entered into his power when they hear about the fall of Jerusalem that was brought about by the Roman legions in 70 AD.

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. . . bring many into the kingdom brother, for you are wise . . .

He just parrots little blurbs that he picks up from "wise" sounding preachers in YouTube videos.
What he "leads" people to is 'free grace' religion where if you believe you are saved then you are.

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The book of Revelation is about one thing only.The unveiling of Yahoshua(God is salvation).....

This supposed name is an invention by people who want to replace Christianity with a spin-off of Talmudic Judaism.
These are fans of the Old Testament deity character sometimes called YHWH.
They resent anyone calling Jesus "Jesus" because it means Savior.
They believe that their own favorite deity character is the only One who can be called savior, so they created a fake name which says that their's is the savior.

The book of Revelation is not predictions or prophecies of historical events.It is written in metaphor and signs.

The Book of Revelation itself says at its beginning that it is given in sign and portents, but they are portents of things to come, and at least the importanr part was to come to pass soon.
I think the "soon" part is important, and the great tribulation event was going to happen very soon after it was written, which was the siege and subsequent fall of Jerusalem brought about by the Roman legions in 70 AD.
Futurists like to get away from the facts, which is that Revelation is most likely the oldest book of the New Testament, by claiming that it wasn't written until 90 AD. What that is based on is the idea that what the tribulation is being described in Revelation (ignoring all the obvious Israel references) is the mythical "persecution of Christians" by the Romans, then looking at all the historical accounts to see which one seemed to be the worse. This was a study done well over a hundred years ago and is now understood as having been based on really flawed information. Despite that repudiation of their dating theory, the futurist cling to their belief by their overriding desire to see another tribulation coming in our near future.

Originally posted by Rex282

No one can choose to be saved.God does all the choosing all the seeking and all the finding.God is 100% sovereign and in control of it ALL.Man has ZERO to do with his salvation it is ALL given.There is no room at all to boast or do anything to receive it..It is God that is doing ALL the saving from the beginning until the end...No man can change himself.No one can lift themselves up by their own shoelaces.

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In a way I do not agree since there is a symbiosis going on between the soul and god also, where the soul learns/evolve and become something that will be saves by god since it has proven it should be saved. You can go the narrow path and empty the cup so that it can be filled. . It might be god who is preparing the road for the soul but it is the soul who walks it and reaches a point where both can find an understanding of each other and reach symbiosis/oneness.

But other than that a nice post.

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No one can choose to be saved.God does all the choosing all the seeking and all the finding.God is 100% sovereign and in control of it ALL.Man has ZERO to do with his salvation it is ALL given.

That's not Biblical. Now it is true that He draws all men to Christ, it's also true that He created man sovereign with free will and will not force anyone to convert. The Bible says it's God's will that none are lost and all men come to repent and accept the gospel, yet Jesus said most will reject it. If it was all God then, and since it's also His will that none are lost there would be none lost.

Your theology needs to match the Word. God does draw all men, but you downplay the sovereignty of man which He created us with.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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They are not going to listen. Not yet at any rate, they're not ready to listen. They still have stoney hearts. Soon perhaps, but not yet.

What's that matter brother? We're told to preach, not convert. Noah preached for 120 years without a conversion. Lol

Well yeah there is that. Sometimes I get the feeling i'm preaching to empty air.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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They are not going to listen. Not yet at any rate, they're not ready to listen. They still have stoney hearts. Soon perhaps, but not yet.

What's that matter brother? We're told to preach, not convert. Noah preached for 120 years without a conversion. Lol

Well yeah there is that. Sometimes I get the feeling i'm preaching to empty air.

Conversion and conviction is the work of the Spirit tho.

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Your theology needs to match the Word. God does draw all men, but you downplay the sovereignty of man which He created us with.

Taking your own advice about conforming theory with the Bible, where do you find this bit about "the sovereignty of man"?
Isn't there this problem with original sin where "man" through Adam and Eve relinquished their sovereignty to Satan?
Or is that just obsolete in your religion which is so brand new?

Continuing on with what I said earlier about Revelation probably being the oldest book in the New Testament, I think that it could be possible that Paul's earliest written book in the New Testament, 1 Thessalonians, was a response to Christians reading Revelation and thinking that he was talking about things in the past tense, rather than that being in regards to the visions themselves, and not to the actual (then future) events that the visions represent.
In the first chapter of 1 Thessalonians, Paul says,

. . . you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.

where he is saying flat-out that these things are still expected, meaning that they did not happen yet, which one may think if they read Revelation, where John said that he "saw" all these things happening.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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No one can choose to be saved.God does all the choosing all the seeking and all the finding.God is 100% sovereign and in control of it ALL.Man has ZERO to do with his salvation it is ALL given.

That's not Biblical. Now it is true that He draws all men to Christ, it's also true that He created man sovereign with free will and will not force anyone to convert. The Bible says it's God's will that none are lost and all men come to repent and accept the gospel, yet Jesus said most will reject it. If it was all God then, and since it's also His will that none are lost there would be none lost.

Your theology needs to match the Word. God does draw all men, but you downplay the sovereignty of man which He created us with.

Man is not soveriegn only God is.Man does not have a will free of causation.Every effect has a cause.Man can choose and makes billions of choices yet none of them are free of causation.Belief in the sovereignty of man is the epitome of rebellion and delusion.It is believing "I" will be like the most high God.It is not scriptural and it is devoid of any semblance of reality.