The Language of Vampyr

For full transparency, maferoxy and I have been working together to unravel the mystery of FL. It is true that Ayndryl pointed him in the direction of a Study Group, and I have been assisting him in tracking it down. My background is in the IT industry, more specifically network architecture and infrastructure management, I have recently made the move to a senior cybersecurity role.

I originally posted some translations on Reddit (rather haphazardly mind you), that appeared to speak of 'the domestication of the human species' as well as referring to Earth as Sol-3, and referencing another planet like ours, Altair-3. A planet which the authors seemed to want some sort of hybridisation with.

It intrigued me, greatly. It still does.

Since then I have done what I can to ascertain what the purpose of FL is. My current hypothesis relates to the mathematical rules that underpin not just language evolution, but everything in our reality.

If such rules exist. Then it makes sense we could simulate what communication may become in the future, especially if we understand the rules governing how it got to where it is. And if this is true, then I believe that FL may be attempting to contact conscious beings outside of our current communication norms. Where those entities exist in time, is most likely irrelevant. Perhaps time itself becomes irrelevant once consciousness reaches a level that is capable of as much.

While I support the search for knowledge, I don't support toxicity. I'd like to find a group of dedicated, organised individuals that I can learn from and hopefully assist.

originally posted by: maferoxy
a reply to: maferoxy

Forgot to add: there is a new active discord tho and it's been great so far. They're just starting out working on translations, if anyone is interested.

Hi there, could you send me an invite to this discord?

Well, contacting certain other consciousnesses was made clear by Direne not so long ago. Direne also made it clear that there is a fear of extinction driving the search.

I have no knowledge of a study group, so can't help you guys there.

The time travel and contact aspects. Are you wanting to emulate in practice those things FL alludes to?

a reply to: Pretzelcoatl

Sure - discord.gg...

Look forward to seeing you there! The guys who made the discord, have also made a website to help centralise the efforts. flwiki.org...

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Direne also made it clear that there is a fear of extinction driving the search.

I would love to hear more about that fear. Usually, when speaking about higher planes of existence and consciousness, the first step is the eradication of all fear from the individual. This goes hand in hand with 'ego death'.

The time travel and contact aspects. Are you wanting to emulate in practice those things FL alludes to?

This would depend. Within reason, I would say that yes. I would be willing to emulate the things FL alludes to. I have already been practicing meditation utilizing various tones and frequencies for around a year and have begun the gateway tapes after experiencing an OBE earlier in the year. I believe that 'something' is happening to the collective consciousness of mankind. Whether it relates to the current peak in the solar cycle or scientists discovering that the core of the earth may have stopped spinning, or even something to do with the stars and the Age of Aquarius, I am not sure. But something certainly feels different.

I am an optimist though and believe that we may be at the precipice of the next stage of human consciousness. An exciting and positive time, to say the least.

a reply to: K1xaru

From memory the idea was that simulations were run by hyper-intellegences to work out a civilisation that would not fall apart. The end game was to transmit the information in the last few moments before the universe collapsed. Thus ensurring continuation into the next universe.

So there was the computer science view, and there was also a gnostic view that seems to me to be two ways of saying exactly the same thing. I gather in gnosicism one had to attain a comparative knowledge before death.

So it was perhaps more the question of extinction vs continuing existance. I stand by my use if the word "fear" even though FL might frown on me.

The idea of "eradicating fear" and "ego death" before venturing to "higher planes" was probably there, though I didnt notice it in FL's writings. Does sound like something that fella may have told Norea.

FL did mention somewhere that they collect knowledge with the hint that it would be preserved for after the next collapse of civilisation.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

I'm not sure if I buy into simulation theory. But then again, I don't have any proof of anything to the contrary. So it is certainly possible.

The only thing I'll mention is that I am sure I have seen articles on FL that state different extinction dates for humanity. The years 2100, 3100 and 3500 all ring a bell with dates I have read regarding extinction events for humanity within FL's articles. I can't reference any at the minute though. So take that with a grain of salt.

Secondarily, an extinction date for the entire universe is vastly more grand than an extinction date for humanity alone. While I am sure the inevitable heat death of the universe is a thing (everything comes to an end, right?) I feel it is more likely that the stories/views relate specifically to the end of our current civilisation.

But even then, I don't necessarily think that civilisation has to collapse and end, for the stories to ring true. Perhaps it speaks of an evolution, the end of one thing and beginning of another.

Assume for a moment, that the human brain is capable of a frequency 'upgrade' allowing us to instantly 'see' these other realities. This would effectively end our current civilisation as we know it, and usher in a new age. Many things may collapse, humanity as we know it would cease to exist, as the physical realm would suddenly be dwarfed by everything around it, but a new beginning would undoubtedly begin, almost immediately.

While I don't discount the possibility we are in the end of times. I don't necessarily believe that IF we are, that it HAS to be an overwhelmingly negative thing.

Positivity breeds positivity. Of that, I am sure.

a reply to: K1xaru

I'm not a fan of the "living in a simulation" idea either. I think there is a certain unhealthy fatalism to it. Plus it cheapens the living of life. Add in the idea of people running the simulation and it is a recipe for subservience.

It would be quite the coup d'état to convince people it was true.

The only thing I'll mention is that I am sure I have seen articles on FL that state different extinction dates for humanity. The years 2100, 3100 and 3500 all ring a bell with dates I have read regarding extinction events for humanity withing FL's articles. I can't reference any at the minute though. So take that with a grain of salt.

FL sometimes gives the impression that they are communicating with future surviving humans, along with making changes it seems.

I forget now if that was an environmental crash, or a nutter AI. Both?

I wrote a post about crediting Nature with some intellegence www.abovetopsecret.com... a page ago. We may not be missed at all looking at the damage government, corporations and science has done to the planet.

Assume for a moment, that the human brain is capable of a frequency 'upgrade' allowing us to instantly 'see' these other realities. This would effectively end our current civilisation as we know it, and usher in a new age. Many things may collapse, humanity as we know it would cease to exist, as the physical realm would suddenly be dwarfed by everything around it, but a new beginning would undoubtedly begin, almost immediately.

The way I see it, a portion of humanity doesn't deserve to skip out on the mess it has made of this planet in order to get to where they have the ability to ascend to a better place. Like trashing house after house, it is just bad behaviour.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

The way I see it, a portion of humanity doesn't deserve to skip out on the mess it has made of this planet in order to get to where they have the ability to ascend to a better place. Like trashing house after house, it is just bad behaviour.

👏👏👏

Maybe those who learned the lesson (which I think is love/connectedness to all things) ascend and the others go around the carousel again.

When one begins to perceive the illusions of division, they are already living in a different world, in a sense.

For instance, years ago, I might have harshly judged a criminal or a violent individual. However, my perspective, thankfully, has changed. I now find myself asking, "What happened to that child?" (Coincidentally, this started with asking that question about myself and my own trauma...) At one point, they were curious about nature, excited about birthday parties, and had a favorite color. Life took its toll on them, often tragically, as evidenced by research showing that over 80% of convicted murderers admit to being physically violated as children. What I "see" now didn't stem from changes in the external world but rather from the transformation of my own perception.

This shift in perception is akin to realizing that if I view myself solely as an isolated individual, it's like one of the cells within my body thinking it exists independently. This cell fails to recognize that it is an integral part of a complex and interconnected system, with each cell playing a vital role in the functioning of the whole organism. If this cell were to act independently, it would ultimately lead to its own demise and would harm other cells in the process. Similarly, we often act as though we are isolated islands, oblivious to the intricate web of connections that bind us together. Yet the smartphones we buy are linked to slave labor in cobalt mines across the globe and our environmental pollution impacts ecosystems in faraway places. In truth, we are all intricately connected, but this interconnectedness often eludes our awareness.

When we start functioning harmoniously within this system, I'll see that your well-being is my well-being, and you'll see that mine is yours (this goes for all of nature also). The concept of "as long as I get mine" won't make sense anymore because the isolated "self" we think we have doesn't truly exist. This new perception of reality is ascension.

Or we're being harvested by a higher alien species and everything I've said is bull# 🤣

a reply to: maferoxy

Maybe those who learned the lesson (which I think is love/connectedness to all things) ascend and the others go around the carousel again.

It is quite amazing how closely this matches what I wanted to respond with. Not just this section, but your entire response. Albeit, in a much more eloquent way than I could have hoped to achieve.

The events you describe would equate to what Christianity knows as The Rapture. In which souls who are deemed ready ascend; while those who are not, are left on earth to perish and perhaps continue to be reborn through the next cycle of 12500 years. (I do not subscribe to any religion, by the way. I just find them interesting)

True forgiveness and unconditional love are both quite difficult to comprehend, let alone put into practice. Consider raising children. Is it unconditional love if you spoil the child? Giving it everything it could ever possibly want or need? Doing such a thing could very well result in a spoilt brat who never properly understands the value of things and struggles to exist in society once they are on their own. Is forgiveness and unconditional love never showing discipline to the child? Or perhaps it is more philosophical and speaks more to the intent, behind a person's action than the action itself. Regardless, if comprehending and practicing forgiveness and love is this difficult with one's own children, then its scale of difficulty is most certainly much greater, when you consider the possibility, you may need to extend this to complete strangers. Adult and children alike.

Perhaps we are all here, to learn this lesson before the next great cycle ends and begins anew. Then again, perhaps we are a cosmic mistake, finding patterns where none actually exist and placing value in meaningless bright lights in the sky, all with completely scientific explanations whether they break the conventional laws of physics or not.

I intend to find out And then help others on their journey. Should they be ready and want the assistance, mind you.

a reply to: maferoxy

I probably shouldn't have used the word "ascention". The word has many meanings and contexts.

Here in this thread, FL gave me the impression of some sort of ascention of civilisation through the agency of technology and intellectual achievement.

That implies a long term plan to create a technological based civilisation. Therefore children working in cobolt mines and the rest of it.

Or western civilisation could be just an accident of random numbers just coincidentally lining up like a lotto win.

A plan thousands of years in the making seems more plausable. Mystery Schools?

Anyway, if it is planned, then the planners are responsible for trashing the planet to achieve their goals.

Ergo: this mess is all their fault and they should stay behind and clean it up.

a reply to: K1xaru

Then again, perhaps we are a cosmic mistake, finding patterns where none actually exist and placing value in meaningless bright lights in the sky, all with completely scientific explanations whether they break the conventional laws of physics or not.

Bahaha well said.

True forgiveness and unconditional love are both quite difficult to comprehend, let alone put into practice.

If not impossible, for egoistic beings to accomplish. But somehow some enlightened people have stumbled upon it and I kinda believe we all will eventually.

Or perhaps it is more philosophical and speaks more to the intent, behind a person's action than the action itself. Regardless, if comprehending and practicing forgiveness and love is this difficult with one's own children, then its scale of difficulty is most certainly much greater, when you consider the possibility, you may need to extend this to complete strangers. Adult and children alike.

FACTS. It's impossible. We often times don't even know what's best for ourselves! How can we possibly know for someone else? And if we're controlled by egoistic (self seeking) desires, then any attempt at helping others will in fact be a harm. I do really think its about the intention of the heart. This intention, the willingness to set aside our own selfish desires, could potentially allow a greater force—whether it's love, a higher power, or the flying spaghetti monster—to work through us, compensating for what our inherent nature might lack.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

The pursuit of their own interests at the expense of everyone else. Yeah, they've got a lot of blood on their hands if this has been the plan all along. 😞

a reply to: maferoxy

Hypothetically speaking:

No one will take responsibility of course. So that leaves the simple question of how to stop them getting away with it.

That they were stopped is indicated by FL's saying the end comes in 2100(?). That implies they were stopped through impending extinction(?) or collapse of civilisation.

My own thought on the matter is this world (Nature) only needs to do nothing to stop human greed in its tracks. By that I mean Nature needs only to step back and no longer do what it normally does to enable organic life. The life support system will collapse.

That is how to beat the Mystery School elites in their game of greed.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Sure thing, I thought it was a cool find as well. Been swallowed up by life lately, but I intend to continue on the weather research.

I think there's something to it, and like your thoughts on nature spirits, which helped me get back to the realization that every planet has a consciousness. So we need to factor that in, planetary consciousness shaping weather.

But there could also be an inter-dimensional force shaping the weather, playing a long game of terraforming Sol-3.

And we know there are black budget weather modification groups as well.

I still have no idea really, but think I'm getting closer. The flwiki link that K1xaru shared reminded me of this article:

flwiki.org...

“The nature of UFOs can only be discovered by detecting similar patterns in several parallel disciplines. It cannot be defined statically, but is rather something more processual and dynamic.”

From weather, to angels, to UFO, to UAP, and weather again. But really, it's everything at once. Also, this rare 1977 documentary / book are fascinating. Still getting through the book. I've been going back in time, when the propaganda was still in its infancy:

concen.org...

a reply to: boozo

I remember the quote, but unfortunately not the post, from an FL source:

You may call them Giselians, if you wish.

Seems to be an obfuscation technique, due to names giving their power away.

Will have to checkout 'The Line'. As much as I cringe at the smart city agenda, a flood proof city sounds interesting.

a reply to: fireslinger

But there could also be an inter-dimensional force shaping the weather, playing a long game of terraforming Sol-3.

The ones who would know if that is happening would be the Nature Spirits. I would think that weather modification is indicative of trespassing be it our stupid governments, ETs, IDs or anyone else for that matter.

Your quote sounds like FL in that they don't seem to want to try direct conscious contact, and Stan Deyo is a name I haven't heard for many a year. Yeah, simple back then in the 1970s.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Oooh, I'm seeing your point more clearly now... nature spirits don't like interference in their realm, regardless of the entities doing the interfering. That's something to meditate on. It does seems like we're engaged in some type of weather warfare, where many parties are involved.

Yea Stan Deyo, blast from the past. He talks about how much more advanced black budget ET reproduction tech is, from 1947 to 1977. 30 years of development. He talks about how at this point (1977), a global system is necessary for the breakaway tech to break back in. Now we're in 2023, almost 30 more years, and seeing the vice grip of that global system, taking us all down with it. And interestingly, the global system they're trying to implement is carbon credit based, which is basically micro-managing the weather.

He also comments on how the phenomenon has become more aggressive / malicious since old testament documentation, such as the burning bush / voice of God, Ezekiel's angels manipulating rotating discs, etc. I keep thinking about your comments on nuclear... how our meddling affects different realms. Checked out a lead from that Tornado Talk page, where infrared is switched on, and all kinds of craft appear in the sky. So it's a polluted sky, if we're looking through the right filter. And who knows how nuclear reactions affect that.

Then of course, we have USOs, which I forgot to mention. I remember an FL post revealing the building of a bridge between the ocean and the sky. And there's also interdimensionals, occupying every nook and cranny of reality.

Back to that FL quote, how the phenomenon requires a study of all these different things, which are dynamic throughout history.

originally posted by: fireslinger
a reply to: boozo


You may call them Giselians, if you wish.

Precisely.

Which begs the question,

Would you risk going blind in favor of operating a Giselian spacecraft?

You'd have to operate using only Ültra Instict. lmao.

"Tired Light 2 is certainly a spacecraft, full of strange objects we do not understand simply because our cognition map cannot and will never understand those objects. The entire ship is dreamy, and once you are inside the experience is totally dreamlike. It took us time to understand that what we were seeing is a craft designed by and for blind life-forms, you understand? Blind life-forms. Interacting with that environment must be made nonvisually, more specifically, spatially. Once we understood this we explored the possibility of using congenitally blind subjects for the research, and that's when interesting things started happening."

"Are you asking how far advanced they are? Well, let me put it this way: our entire civilization is based on computer data, data reported as basic binary on-off telemetry, you see, 1's and 0's. We are only recently developing systems using AI data presented as numbers, words, and images. That's where we are right now. Giselians make computations using dreams. See? That far advanced they are."

"Humans are visual creatures. Giselians are blind creatures. We humans owe everything we are to our eyes; our dreams are mostly visual, all of our computing architectures are visually-oriented, image processing is the core idea on which all of our technology is based. Now, the Universe is a dark place; tell me: who is better adapted to survive and explore a mostly dark Universe? We even consider blindness a handicap! No, really we are way far away from even understanding the simplest object their civilization produces."

"We only have Science to study them, but Science, in its most basic aspect, is a belief system. And you shouldn't use a belief system to draw objective conclusions about the world, unless you don't give a damn about Truth."

And this

No need for using 22Na as a positron source, no need to use metamaterials to engineer a positron moderator. This is the closest we've reached to Tired Light II engine. And soon we will be heading to DENIED using a starship propelled with these engines. Of course, we could have invested our time and effort in designing muon-catalyzed cold fusion power plants, but why bother? Why giving the world the opportunity to use a clean, unlimited energy source that would translate into extending the life expectancy of a planet which is doomed anyway?"

"We can reach Mars in just 11 days with a crewed 40 mT vehicle. Actually, we already made it to Mars in 34 days requiring just a few micrograms of antiprotons using the DENIED muon-catalyzed fusion propulsion device. But all the technology you could use for space propulsion we use it to power our underwater facilties. The ocean covers roughly 70% of the earth’s surface and about 80% of that is deep sea. In a disintegrating planet going underwater is a must. That's how we prepare for what's to come.

It looks to me like the Giselians has a huge part of Terraforming us into Waterworld.

"Do you remember that one civilization that built pyramids, Stonehenge, the great medieval cathedrals of Europe, the Great Wall of China, and ran a space program called Apollo?It was the same civilization that found its way to a neighboring stellar system some 4.11 ly away from their home planet to just discover the journey changes you and that the journey not the arrival matters."

The Giselians were us?

"Contact will be made in the depths of the ocean. That's the place where you will meet your spacefaring neighbors."

I was right all along. My dreams were pretty accurate.

Then you have Direne,

Whose Earth?

Also, pretty much explains their obsession with Jellyfish.

a reply to: boozo

Some solid insights, thanks for bringing up the Giselian blindness aspect again, forgot about that.

Check this one out, that I re-discovered recently. Ties in the terraforming as well, and your theory of them sinking our entire planet:

God is of no significance from a military point of view; however, religion and faith is. In the same vein, aliens per se are of no defense significance for us, though their presence in our airspace is. No matter how advanced they are in comparison to us, once here they must adapt to our own environment, much as you need to adapt yourself to the variery of operational theaters here on Earth when you go to fight a war. You need neoprene and wetsuits when you wish to explore the creatures living in the depths of the ocean, much as they need their spacecrafts if they wish to explore our world, no matter how aethereal you depict them.

forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org...

I'm uneasy about things like the megalodon down there (60 ft prehistoric great white), but maybe that doesn't hold a candle to the ETs, haha.

Although, there's another FL article saying that 'fear shrinks perspective', so it's important we don't fear. Easier said though, in this crazy world.