The Black Knight Satellite

I reckon it's the projector that makes Earth "Here"... Don't touch it or we may go out

It's a strange one this, can't one of you Astral projectors go and check it out - if you ain't full of it that is.

~ CrzayFool.

Well, we know it's not an F-117 because this predates it by decades and they don't do 'orbit'. It's black and from some angles it looks symmetrical (are all those photos of the same thing?) but it doesn't look like anything human-made from that era by a long stretch, even if it's something broken and charred by a fire or explosion.

If the space shuttle has to boost itself every now and then to stay in orbit or it would fall out of the sky, why is this thing apparently still up there after many decades? For that matter, why hasn't the vast majority of space junk fallen down by now, since there's reported to be thousands of objects from lost gloves to spanners to 'pissicles' that seem to not want to subliminate like they should...and instead show up on ultraviolet NASA cameras as pulsating Pakman objects..

And for those hotshots that advocate just shooting it down to get a good look at it, I question the wisdom of shooting down an apparently alien or unknown object; seems like it would be shielded from that and might not take too kindly to it, either.

There's no way NASA and the various telescopes on earth and spy satellites up in orbit don't have precise pictures of this thing, right down to and including a license plate number.

Slightly off-topic, but here's a link to NICAP's free ebooks; Donald Keyhoe's book 'Flying Saucers are Real' is the second one shown. Ignore the campy cartoony cover, it's actually very well written and gives a lot of insight into the technology and thinking of the time.

www.nicap.org...

Originally posted by Tahnya86
Hello, i have also posted on this but what i wanted to let you know is i came accross some files of information stating that the US Military actualy managed to retireve the black night and some staff who tried to interact with it where badly hurt as it had soem kind of defecive mechanisim like a eltro charge, more importantly i wouldnt doubt the retrieval of such item as the military does use top secret space craft and a seprate black project sector to do missions and NASA is just a cover front to keep the public distracted while the real interesting stuff goes on behind the darkness of space.

Or this thing could be an Alien probe sent to spy on us from the species living on Titan who are currently terraforming Saturn. It's something to consider? Just sayin.


~$heopleNation

Originally posted by yuppa

Originally posted by Johnathanandheather
reply to post by MegaSpace

 

Your prolly right on the decepticon. Prolly some evil dark planet out there ready to pounce.
Life imitates art or is it vice versa. Either way.

STARSCREAM!!!! Get your butt in here now!!

Yes lord megatron?

Take a look at the viewscreen you useless bucket of bolts! Tell me what do you see.

Umm.. well It seems i might have left shockwave in orbit lord megatron.

Well go and get him. before you join him!

Yes megatron!

Im sorry i could not resist that. On topic though its a very interesting item. Mayby its the mysterious Plasma weapon that officially does not exist. wink wink.

That seriously made me laugh Sorry couldn't resist.

putting fuel to the fire !!


13000 YEAR OLD SATELLITE! THE BLACK KNIGHT UFO NASA IMAGES


13000 YEAR OLD SATELLITE, THE FULL STORY OF THE BLACK KNIGHT

reply to post by Wolfenz


Astronaut Photography of Earth - Display Record
The pictures are still here --it's just not pictures of The Black Knight Satellite (if it even exits)

eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

Identification
Mission: STS088 Roll: 724 Frame: 66 Mission ID on the Film or image: STS88
Country or Geographic Name: OCEAN
Features: PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS
Center Point Latitude: Center Point Longitude: (Negative numbers indicate south for latitude and west for longitude)
Stereo: No (Yes indicates there is an adjacent picture of the same area)
ONC Map ID: L-05 JNC Map ID: 51

ntrs.nasa.gov...
Three other objects were also released by STS-88 spacewalkers, one inadvertently (an insulation blanket) and two by design (antenna spools), although only the former was officially cataloged (Debris, 1999).

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by eriktheawful
There is something bugging me about this......

To think that our astronauts......being the responsible individuals that they should be....decided to "discard" garbage over the side so to speak.......garbage that is traveling at orbital speeds.....just to add to all the other "crap" that is also up there, that is garbage, and also orbital speeds.

Did it ever occur to them what even a small plastic pellet can do when it's traveling at 17,000 mph?

Of course it occurred to them, don't be silly.

You may occasionally notice news items about the space station boosting its altitude against air drag. It's in a low, relatively unstable orbit in order to keep it below the van Allen belts, and also to remain within range of earth-to-orbit ferry vehicles such as the shuttles, Soyuz, Dragon, etc. Without periodic boosting, it would decay and burn up in a few years at most.

Lighter stuff, which slow down even faster due to the same air drag, typically burn up after jettison from ISS in a few months, sometimes a lot sooner.

As a rule you do not like to throw stuff away because it might circle around and recontact -- very slowly, true -- the station. But the damage in such cases might be scratched windows or jammed rotary/hinge joints, not penetration. I discuss this in my "99 FAQs About 'Space UFOs'" on my home page. You'd rather not make a habit of it, but it's not the danger that hard junk falling from higher satellites can create.

Clearing out that junk, and in particular a few derelict big objects that threaten to fragment and become orbiting buckshot, is a genuine concern. But not light, small stuff that falls out the airlock or gets dropped during spacewalks.

But good for you to be aware of the hazard and the need for remediation.

Extremely important fact that to me, weeds out a natural or captured object. This thing, what ever it is, is in that same orbital altitude as the space station and shuttle missions, which, for the space station, anyway, (since it is always in orbit), absolutely requires periodic attitude and elevation adjustment to keep it from getting too low.. Obviously, the mass of the vehicle has a lot to do with orbital decay, but this thing seems to be a large object.

So the conjecture here is , if it is a large object, then it must be being controlled, or is self controlled, or ....possesses some kind of gravitational technology that allows it to remain stable. otherwise, it would have been a fireworks show a long time ago.

Another important aspect would be: Does it tumble? I do not know if that is observed, but it seems that most of the images of it show it's length perpendicular to the surface of Earth. If it does not tumble, that would be another extremely suspicious attribute that it is not a natural object as well. Does anyone have info on that to share?

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by eriktheawful
There is something bugging me about this......

To think that our astronauts......being the responsible individuals that they should be....decided to "discard" garbage over the side so to speak.......garbage that is traveling at orbital speeds.....just to add to all the other "crap" that is also up there, that is garbage, and also orbital speeds.

Did it ever occur to them what even a small plastic pellet can do when it's traveling at 17,000 mph?

Of course it occurred to them, don't be silly.

You may occasionally notice news items about the space station boosting its altitude against air drag. It's in a low, relatively unstable orbit in order to keep it below the van Allen belts, and also to remain within range of earth-to-orbit ferry vehicles such as the shuttles, Soyuz, Dragon, etc. Without periodic boosting, it would decay and burn up in a few years at most.

Lighter stuff, which slow down even faster due to the same air drag, typically burn up after jettison from ISS in a few months, sometimes a lot sooner.

As a rule you do not like to throw stuff away because it might circle around and recontact -- very slowly, true -- the station. But the damage in such cases might be scratched windows or jammed rotary/hinge joints, not penetration. I discuss this in my "99 FAQs About 'Space UFOs'" on my home page. You'd rather not make a habit of it, but it's not the danger that hard junk falling from higher satellites can create.

Clearing out that junk, and in particular a few derelict big objects that threaten to fragment and become orbiting buckshot, is a genuine concern. But not light, small stuff that falls out the airlock or gets dropped during spacewalks.

But good for you to be aware of the hazard and the need for remediation.

Extremely important fact that to me, weeds out a natural or captured object. This thing, what ever it is, is in that same orbital altitude "zone" as the space station and shuttle missions, which, for the space station, anyway, (since it is always in orbit), absolutely requires periodic attitude and elevation adjustment to keep it from getting too low.. Obviously, the mass of the vehicle has a lot to do with orbital decay, but this thing seems to be a large object.

So the conjecture here is , if it is a large object, then it must be being controlled, or is self controlled, or ....possesses some kind of gravitational technology that allows it to remain stable. otherwise, it would have been a fireworks show a long time ago.

Another important aspect would be: Does it tumble? I do not know if that is observed, but it seems that most of the images of it show it's length perpendicular to the surface of Earth. If it does not tumble, that would be another extremely suspicious attribute that it is not a natural object as well. Does anyone have info on that to share?

reply to post by charlyv

So the conjecture here is , if it is a large object, then it must be being controlled, or is self controlled, or ....possesses some kind of gravitational technology that allows it to remain stable. otherwise, it would have been a fireworks show a long time ago.

Why do you think it is a "large" object? Are you falling into the trap of connecting the images from STS-88 with the tales of the Black Knight? Why?

I do not know if that is observed, but it seems that most of the images of it show it's length perpendicular to the surface of Earth.

I don't agree with your assessment but in any case; the first image was taken at 20:16:41. The last image was taken at 20:18:44. A span of two minutes.

Just to refresh everyone's memories, Im sure you all know, But the "Black Knight" was a re-entry missle (ICBM) designed by British and Australian scientists in 1955 and was launched several times, from Woomera in the mid 1950s.

The Black Knight term for this so called object probably did not appear till the 1970s, prior to that it seemed to be call..the dark object.

The Real Black Knight was well established by then, and probably forgotten by UFOers the 70s.

Also, that original photo of the dark object "Floating" seems suspiciously too close to Earth to be in Space to me, considering you can see atmosphere above the object and a huge expanse of rather close clouds below.....still, Im no expert...if people say its in orbit, so be it.

Looks like an experimental plane to me. (that photo anyway..when was that photo taken?).

reply to post by Phage


Thanks Phage, however I did say "IF it is a large object". I know from what is available, that there is not enough info to get size. Saying that, I love the idea of playing "what if" with this thing.

Talk about playing What If... The black night object is irregular shaped, but shows some symmetry. I have always thought that the object seen by SkyLab 3, in 1973, had some resemblance. Not in visual texture or luminosity, but in it's strange shape. So.. I pieced together 4 images of Black Night, along with the Skylab3 image. I see geometric similarity from picture #3, and the Skylab object. I know it is out way on a limb, but it might make some people wonder....

Oh, it is largely overblown, so use CTRL/MouseWheel to adjust the screen to see what you want to.

reply to post by Wolfenz


It took the best German rocket scientist and years of almost unlimited funding to advance the U.S program years after the Germans were defeated. The V2 was the most advanced rocket Germany had functioning and it was an oversize candle at best. it laid the groundwork for space launch vehicles but it was a toy compared to what was required to insert a sizeable
payload into orbit. You dreaming mate.

Hmmmmmmm.....

Awfully tempted to take the photos and make a 3D model out of them using Blender and 3ds Max.

Place textures and materials applied to them in UDK with lighting, then show the results here......

Or would that be adding gasoline to the fire?

The Black Knight was the name the press gave it, in military circles the satellite was called Lonesome George.

Read up on it here

reply to post by Wolfenz

putting fuel to the fire !!

Fine , I'll Add More



"Black Knight Satellite returns" - ISS UFO, March 2013

I do not know 'wot' it is but yes, it resembles the Black Knight Satellite a bit

reply to post by MerkabaMeditation


Maybe I missed something, but I want about 10 minutes of my life back.

That post you cited mentioned "LONESOME GEORGE" once and that was in the title of the story and not at all in the body of the text. Let me save fellow readers some time:

"THE BLACK KNIGHT SATELLITE. FASTWALKERS. "LONESOME GEORGE". SOME OF THIS IS NEW TO ME AND MAYBE TO OTHERS INVOLVED IN UFO RESEARCH"

And that coveres the "LONESOME GEORGE" reference, I sure did learn alot and I hope everyone else did too,.....

thanks......

reply to post by eriktheawful


I think that this single post by you speaks more to the crux of the matter than any other in this topic. If we know that there was an ongoing search for natural satellites by the individuals so often associated in various retellings with the Black Knight, and we know that Keyhoe's claims were subsequent to reports thereof, then there is a perfectly plausible and quite mundane potential explanation for all of this. Which kills any pretense to "proof" that there was ever an extraterrestrial satellite detected as some assert.

And if so, then all of the subsequent efforts to corroborate the original claims are moot. (One also wonders whether Keyhoe may even have simply misunderstood something he was actually told.)

Peace.

Can i post the obvious here if this was an unknown satellite with no proof it came from earth don't you think someone would have done a snatch and grab by now? Think about it something circling the earth of unknown origin possibilities are endless so why wouldn't a government race to get ahold of it. Well the answers obvious we know what it is.

Originally posted by AckAckAttack34
reply to post by MerkabaMeditation

 

Maybe I missed something, but I want about 10 minutes of my life back.

That post you cited mentioned "LONESOME GEORGE" once and that was in the title of the story and not at all in the body of the text. Let me save fellow readers some time:

"THE BLACK KNIGHT SATELLITE. FASTWALKERS. "LONESOME GEORGE". SOME OF THIS IS NEW TO ME AND MAYBE TO OTHERS INVOLVED IN UFO RESEARCH"

And that coveres the "LONESOME GEORGE" reference, I sure did learn alot and I hope everyone else did too,.....

thanks......

Sorry about that, I was lazy Googling a reference today. See here for a better reference.

I've updated the link in my post too.

-MM

reply to post by dragonridr

They tried to capture it. It didn't work.

I hear tell.