MSNBC Host: Your Kids Belong to the Collective

Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by coltcall

 

Not true. Winners have sympathy, but only when the losers aren't complaining. When the losers complain, they're suggesting that the winner is illegitimate and not praise worthy.

Winners can have the most sympathy of everyone for a loser they respect. Why? Because winners have lost. They know how hard it's. They also know they've had some good fortune.

edit on 7-4-2013 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

Excuse me...but when are the losers from the collective NOT complaining?

That's all we hear. COMPLAINTS. IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT.

To the point we're just not listening any more. The collective has cried WOLF too many times.

Originally posted by coltcall

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by coltcall
You can always tell who are the Bilderbergs and who are the socialists on welfare.

The ones always complaining about the Bilderbergs are the socialists on welfare.

It's not rocket science to tell the difference.

You sound like a corporate welfare queen to me and are a flame bait troll.

Take your koolaid nonsense elsewhere idiot!

Good advice only hurts those who don't know what to do with good advice.

Here's a hint: Winners really don't have a lot of sympathy for losers. Regardless of what the liberal media tries to convince you into believing.

What good advice? You are praising or at least condoning fraud. Fraud is fraud. Do love stock market speculation and globalism? What is so great about that? Do you love the out of control military industrial complex and war profiteering? Do you like insider trading? Both the democrats and republicans are involved in insider trading, that is why they do not do a damm thing about it and hush-hush all the time.

Instead you come here railing against the unemployed as though it is their fault and that everyone is lazy. You keep making retarded strawman arguements.

reply to post by neo96

The two of us see the gun debate so differently neo - and yet I think we can both agree that what's good for the children is good for society. I don't see a conspiracy around every corner - but, hey - egg on my face when I'm greeting my first dawn from a FEMA camp - right?

:-)

I don't think there are any easy answers - and god knows politics is most of the time used for nothing but sound bites and photo-ops - marketing rules. I'm not going to debate guns here and now - with you or anybody - so let's let that go

This is (supposedly) about education - and if we're honest, it's about this idea some have that a certain group of individuals (ahem) is trying to wrest their children from their bosoms and ship them off for some nefarious purpose - we know not what. Oh no - I forget - we do: indoctrination

Collectivism...such a useful word - never really goes out of style with you conservatives - does it? :-)

What only the right can be criticized?

Heavens no neo - what would be the fun in that?

:-)

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Ever notice that over the past five years of Obama, the welfare roles have swollen. The ghettos have gotten larger. The wars have become bloodier and more...ah....progressive?

And those of the collective just can't figure out what's going wrong with their collective subplans.....

reply to post by jonnywhite


My economic liberalism boils down to how i answer regarding restrictions on corporations. Since money = speech, they obviously need to be curtailed. If they are to have the power of a human voice, as an entity the same as us, they obviously need curtailing. They should be limited to providing a product/service, and employment. They should not be able to employ political motivations, nor victimizing people by poisoning water.

Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by dominicus

 

They tried that giving everyone a house for practically nothing with the subprime debacle....and look what happened?

So many homeless....so many foreclosures....so many Occupiers living in the park in New York City...

Say. Whatever happened to the collective once known as the Occupy Movement?

I was being sarcastic. Socialism is Bullsh**. Eventually the Corporations get involved anyway and you end up with a corporate Fascism.

I was saying that if the Host who made those topics believes in a collective, then she needs to make herself sexually available to the single men of the collective, as well as everything she owns.

There are small collectives with rules that do work to certain degrees like the Amish. Or look up the jewish kibbutz, which were basically homestead based industries that pumped out product like metal works, food production, furniture, etc. It is how Israel grew and became self sufficient as a nation.

I think it can work, as long is its amongst a group of people who agree to the rule like some hippie communes. Some are still around and successfully thriving. There's one in Crossville Tennessee still going strong 35-40 years later.

Also many Monasteries built around selfless service and reaching Enlightenment, become themselves self sufficient and also produce various industrial products like weaving baskets, clothing, food, breweries. Some monasteries are almost 2000 years old and still going strong as thriving communities. Particularly Mount Athos with the Orthodox Monks.

But what this broad is taking about, is Gov ran socialism. The same Gov that lies to us and raised the legal level of air-borne radiation about a month after Fukushima happened. And now children being born on the West Coast are showing extremely high levels of Hypothyroidism (caused by high radiation levels).

reply to post by Spiramirabilis

Collectivism...such a useful word

Something else that never goes out of style?

This:

We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

just add collectivists, and children.

Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Ever notice that over the past five years of Obama, the welfare roles have swollen. The ghettos have gotten larger. The wars have become bloodier and more...ah....progressive?

And those of the collective just can't figure out what's going wrong with their collective subplans.....

Neoliberals and neoconservatives are both globalist babylonian fraudsters. Socialism has nothing to do with neoliberalism. I dislike obama just as much, if not more, than bush jr. Bush sr was a traditional conservative and clinton was a traditional liberal.

Everything has gone haywire after 9-11-2001. The new world order has taken affect!

reply to post by neo96


Spira just starred neo96

Thanks - for the laugh

It is futile - but we can be quite hospitable

Please let us know how many dashikis your family will be needing - and what colors

Dinner in the main tent - bring your guitar

Originally posted by Bioshock
reply to post by beezzer

 

I'll be honest, when you compare the modern liberal to the people that worshiped Hitler before ww2, there is a striking resemblance. You may be right in that progressives are behind most of this, but the liberals and the brainwashed public that literally see Obama as the 2nd coming are scary to witness.

You have a very good point here,the Liberals here in the UK seem to advocate MORE state control over our daily lives.for example,the Liberal Democrat segment of our current coallition government, far from going against their right leaning conservative coallition partners on the issue of the withdrawal of the UK from the European Human rights charter,appear to be endorsing this potential move.

This would have been unheard of before the last general election, when the Liberal Democrat party promoted themselves foremost as a party who would ensure that human rights legislation would not be interfered with.

Obviously now they have had a taste of power they will be reluctant to relinquish it,even if it means the dropping of their own core ideals.

The political lines are blurring together world wide it seems.

reply to post by coltcall


Don't blame the collective, blame the bankers and corrupt politicians that make life hard for people to advance.

Here is something the REAL right wingers(small government, less wars, ballanced budgets) should look at. Ron Paul is as traditional conservative as conservative can get. Please people don't be fooled by the neo-conservatives.

Reporter asks him if is elligible enough to become president because he wants a smaller military-industrial complex, individual liberties restored, and LESS SPENDING(that means less bailouts), no federal reserve, etc.

Originally posted by mac420
reply to post by coltcall

 

Don't blame the collective, blame the bankers and corrupt politicians that make life hard for people to advance.

Always blame the successful for the plight of the unsuccessful. It's the motto of the collective.

Go down the list of the successful until hitting upon someone or something that can be blamed for the collective's mistakes.

Hmmmmm.....and socialists wonder why the rut they are in keeps getting deeper and deeper. Cause a hole gets bigger the more the socialist takes out of it.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


You voted for Obama and the bailouts....Now you are UNHAPPY with the bailouts??

Sorry. Too late. You made your decision. Learn to live with your mistakes.

Hysterical....the California collective re-elected Jerry Brown to finish what he started...

Brown said he looked forward to seeing the tremendous changes that have taken place in China since the last time he visited, during his first stint as California's governor, in 1977.

"I can see Chinese manufacturing here," Brown said. "How we pull that off with all our regulations and tax issues I don't know. But I take a very individual view."


Just totally hysterical....and it's the collective's solution to outsourcing jobs. Bring the Chinese to America to work.

I've been working on the railroad...all the livelong day.....

Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

You voted for Obama and the bailouts....Now you are UNHAPPY with the bailouts??

Sorry. Too late. You made your decision. Learn to live with your mistakes.

I didn't vote for Obama. In fact I didn't vote at all because I live overseas and have to file for an absentee ballot that takes a long time to complete. Then once completed and mailed back to NJ they would probably throw it in the trash can if they saw I voted constitution party.

Of course I am against large scale welfare, whether it be corporate welfare or state welfare to the undeserving. A big government is a wasteful government. Our debt is 16 trillion dollars and we will eventually go bankrupt to become another argentina.

Effin commie degenerates.. Looks like we actually lost the cold war.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

You voted for Obama and the bailouts....Now you are UNHAPPY with the bailouts??

Sorry. Too late. You made your decision. Learn to live with your mistakes.

I didn't vote for Obama. In fact I didn't vote at all because I live overseas and have to file for an absentee ballot that takes a long time to complete. Then once completed and mailed back to NJ they would probably throw it in the trash can if they saw I voted constitution party.

Of course I am against large scale welfare, whether it be corporate welfare or state welfare to the undeserving. A big government is a wasteful government. Our debt is 16 trillion dollars and we will eventually go bankrupt to become another argentina.

91 million people didn't vote.

Obama got 60 million votes.

Romney got 57 million votes.

does that mean the 91 million who didn't vote won the election....

Originally posted by Metha-Don
Effin commie degenerates.. Looks like we actually lost the cold war.

You've got to admire how the Soviet Union closed up shop and came back as a Capitalist powerhouse controlling much of the energy supply of Europe.

Originally posted by coltcall

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

You voted for Obama and the bailouts....Now you are UNHAPPY with the bailouts??

Sorry. Too late. You made your decision. Learn to live with your mistakes.

I didn't vote for Obama. In fact I didn't vote at all because I live overseas and have to file for an absentee ballot that takes a long time to complete. Then once completed and mailed back to NJ they would probably throw it in the trash can if they saw I voted constitution party.

Of course I am against large scale welfare, whether it be corporate welfare or state welfare to the undeserving. A big government is a wasteful government. Our debt is 16 trillion dollars and we will eventually go bankrupt to become another argentina.

91 million people didn't vote.

Obama got 60 million votes.

Romney got 57 million votes.

does that mean the 91 million who didn't vote won the election....

I actually regret not voting despite the futility of it all. It would have been better to make the effort regardless of any voting fraud issues. The 91 million LOST because they couldn't be arsed to vote THINKING it would send the message that government is too corrupt to bother. Retrospect is painful but is part of the awakening process none-the-less.

Vote santa claus, vote rosseane bar, vote gary johnson, vote jill stein, VOTE VIRGIL GOODE, vote anyone EXCEPT obama and romney. We have to send the message to washington that the two party monopoly is not invincible and that government should not take people for granted as retards.