North Korea Approves Nuclear Strike On America

Originally posted by darpa999
They do not have missiles at all. What are you guys talking about????
Its a poor country.

I think you'll find they do have missiles, some with quite substantial range.

Originally posted by Seek_Truth
reply to post by Miracula

 

Bit harsh?

No. I didn't insult him.

If I see people have less knowledge in a particular area I usually ignore the difference in level of knowledge.

It's called graciousness. Versus arrogant condescension and insults.

Usually it is customary to be insulted then act arrogant, not act arrogantly and condescendingly without having been provoked. People do not provoke me to insult by demonstrating less knowledge than I have. Even though without speculating whether the image had been photoshopped or not I didn't demonstrate less knowledge then the guy who made attempts to condescend.

Originally posted by darpa999
The US is keeing "hush hush" about all this because NK has no oil or no opium poppies. I will bet all my $$$ that the US will not attack NK.

Secondly, I think this whole NK having stockpiles of missiles is nonsense. They do not have any from my internal sources. What you see in the media of them launching missiles that is all done from a studio.

NK is poor. Very very poor country, now do you all think NK has all that money to stockpile missiles??

Now come on. Wake up guys.

Your "internal sources"? Give over dude, you don't have any, your just puffing your chest.

If you did have "internal sources" within NK, that would make you quite unique in the world and in great demand, I should imagine, from Western intelligence agencies. As it stands, your posting nonsense on an internet forum, so forgive me if I call you out on your BS.

I would be surprised if NK used the nuke by any means in my opinion, even if they have long-rage enough delivery systems or some nut with a briefcase. Why would they have have photo-bombed themselves at the sand table with a map that says "BOMBS GO HERE = USA" instead of just firing/detonating the damn thing and having the drop? Nobody brags before they hit you, they brag after. And even then, would you want to brag in that situation? The US has 10k nuclear warheads approximately. I think only a few hundred are launch ready at any given time, but it indeed would be suicide for NK.

The only thing that I can foresee coming out of this is another excuse for the US government to try and convince the American people that the war machine must go on.

Nothing but hype to keep people watching the news and to keep them in a stimulated state so they can be manipulated.

I really so no reason why anything will come of this.

reply to post by stumason


If that image is accurate then a ground launch would be at least around 11,000 kilometers meaning that their longest ranged missile would come up short. They would have to have the capability to launch it from the sea, I'm not aware if they do or not.

reply to post by votan


Well, I wouldn't quite agree there. It's not really on the news in a front and center kind of way, and there's plenty of other junk for them to pedal.

reply to post by ndc86


And if you've followed this with just the slightest amount of attention (something people seem to lack these days) you'd know that NK lacks the ability to strike the US mainland, but certainly has the capability to strike US interests or it's allies in the region.

EDIT: Here is an image of how their missile ranges stack up. The longest range does actually have the ability to hit the extreme East of the US.

reply to post by stumason


Well that's what I was trying to say, there's nothing to suggest that they could even land a hit. That's a good point about allies and interests in the area though.

reply to post by ndc86


Indeed, they do have difficulty with their test launches so I would be very surprised if they managed to hit the US at all. Even a successful launch is likely to be shot down before it got anywhere.

Closer to home though, they have many more shorter range missiles and the reaction time would be less to shoot them down... Anyone claiming they don't have any rockets at all is just an idiot with their head stuck up their arse (I know you didn't)

A lot of the focus seems to assume the nuclear threat potentially coming from a launched North Korean missile ...Kim Jong Un himself describes the method of delivery, however, as "lighter, smaller, and diversified".

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Given the relative limited range of their missile technology, might we be looking in the wrong place? The notion of there ever being the existence of a "suitcase nuke" has been debunked by many experts, but what if the delivery method is equally as diabolically compact and undetectable. Certainly, the statement "smaller, lighter and diversified" might lead one to believe that these warheads may not be mounted on a missile at all. Perhaps we are watching one hand and not paying attention to what the other one is doing. The map of nuclear targets that includes cities not just on the West coast, but also Austin, Texas and Washington D.C. would seem to indicate a longer range delivery method.

Completely disregarding the fact that a launched nuke or North Korean bomber plane would never make it over the Pacific without being intercepted, we underestimate Kim Jong Un and the North Korean Army at our own peril. I don't think it's any secret the rumors they've been potentially working with other rogue states on the development of a nuclear weapon. What if they've stumbled onto something that has become the catalyst behind Kim Jong Un's recent amped up bravado against the U.S., South Korea, and Japan?

What if higher ranking officials in U.S. (and other countries') intelligence know about it? And what if this threat is the reason behind the sudden bolstering of forces in the region from not just the U.S., but China and Russia as well, when in past instances the rhetoric has been dealt with on a more diplomatic level?

There is something very different and unsettling about this otherwise routine situation with DPRK this time around. And I'm pretty sure there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than the probably 10% we the public are privy to. We need only to observe current multi-national troop and supply movements to ascertain the seriousness of things right now in that region of the World. That China, their largest ally, has taken a hardline stance against the North Koreans' actions of late is telling.

I pray this situation can be diffused peacefully rather than ending in the mutually assured destruction of all parties on the Korean peninsula.

I was thinking along the same lines, considering how many drones iran has captured is it just possible that would be the delivery method?

Even 2 or 3 of the little bastards could be big trouble if they made it across the pond.

Tomorrow morn, NK time,... Young kim Jr. will announce to his people that all is well and he negotiated a truce from the evil.

A nice ploy to keep the internal citizens from thinking they missed out on something.

But the higher ups,... they have seen over the border. they know what they are missing.

They are the cracks in the wall.

reply to post by darpa999


The people are poor, not the government.

Haven't you been listening?

The government takes the money and starves the people......it's called control.

Here in the US we call it welfare.

reply to post by Jubilation T Cornpone

This clip was back in the 50's. It is a Nuclear Howitzer shell.(obviously modified configuration) I can't remember the yield, somewhere around 1 to 5 kilotons. It's efficient, small and real as of 60 years ago and it wouldn't be too daunting a task to whip one of these together with other delivery methods, even ad lib.

Source

It is not known if North Korea possesses drones, although a report on South Korea's Yonhap news agency last year said that it had obtained 1970s-era U.S. target drones from Syria to develop into attack drones.

"The (drone) planes were assigned the flight route and time with the targets in South Korea in mind, Kim Jong-un said, adding with great satisfaction that they were proved to be able to mount (a) super-precision attack on any enemy targets," KCNA reported.

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More advanced drones are made from large, old anti-ship missiles which had their warheads removed.
Obsolete jet and propeller-powered aircraft (such as the Fairey Firefly, Gloster Meteor and de Havilland Sea Vixen used at RAE Llanbedr between the 1950s and 1990s) have also been modified into remote controlled drones, but such modifications are costly.

Okay, so let's say they do it, hypothetically, whether it's a missile, a suitcase, or some dried apricots. Then the US will obviously retaliate, likely nuclear as well. Who knows how the rest of the nuclear nations will respond to that, probably not very well.

It's the whole MAD thing, the suicide factor is too high for NK to pull the trigger I think. I don't believe they will do it.

A nuclear bunker isn't that expensive, N. Korea has likely had one for decades.

And isn't it a really, really convenient way of getting rid of your own people...maybe Lil Kim just wants to watch the world burn. Conversely, who says that this isn't just China's way of unifying and claiming Korea. What's the profit margin of taking over a country like N. Korea and building a new unified nation in the South Pacific?

reply to post by Thorneblood


Sounds weird, but I think he has too nice of a haircut and he's too well dressed to be a destructo-nut. He strikes me as someone who enjoys having people around, to stand on of course.

How would North Korea having the crap blown out of itself help China take it over? I don't follow.