North Korea Approves Nuclear Strike On America

It´s hard to find the words to explain what im feeling, it´s kinda sad that you cant read a thread on this website anymore, without finding people bickering at each other with personal attacks and not be able to have a civilized discussion, about anything. All thread these days seem to end this way, someone having the last word.

How about sticking at topic at hand and not take so much offense in other people opinions, some are diffrent from yours, but please cant we at least try to stay away from personal attacks and trying to "convert" others in to thinking the same way you do, you are not going to change others people minds with slandering, acting superior and looking down on people for their believes, or opinions.

I dont know how it is to live in a country with the constant threat of nuclear attacks, and terrorist with dirty bombs around the corner.I have been reading this site for 6 years and it hasnt been until recently that every thread here, gets derailed. It doesnt matter in wich forum it is. All of the good thread´s get derailed and turned into nothing.

With Kindest respect from Iceland, Can we please keep it civilised and on topic.

reply to post by CristobalColonic


You know that picture is from China, not NK, don't you?

Originally posted by frazzle

Originally posted by harbour45
reply to post by frazzle

 

Your totally right, there' are TRULY EVIL in our very own countries but as human beings we can't deny the suffering of others in this world. The world isn't as big as we think it is, we are more connected then you think.

So should we try to "fix them" first or should we clean up our own act first? Cleaning the bankers out of New York and London and at the WB/IMF would go a long damn ways toward cleaning up the misery in the rest of the world.

Sorry kiddo, the ruling elite don't see ANY of us as humans, we're all "problems that need to be managed" and too many of us agree with that evaluation. Its mind bending.

Thanks for the fresh air and healthy perspective frazzle, and without sarcasm BUMP.
The primary concern for us all should be exposing the root source-- the elites/elitists.

Originally posted by harbour45
reply to post by frazzle

 

Again, couldn't agree with you more…this is a very messed up world and getting worse day by day but with all my own problems I still won't revert to being aloof about other peoples struggles no matter where they're from. I think I've become more sympathetic living in an extremely messed up /poor country for the past ten years…I couldn't give it up even if I wanted to, it's just not in me.

Believe me, aloof doesn't fit my world view, either. Every bloodied child and destroyed antiquity tears my heart out.

But what does fit my world view is the causation of all the carnage and that always reverts back to the source of money and the desire for more of it. Follow that trail and you can never go wrong in tracking down the real bad guys. Keep in mind, the worst of the bad guys are seldom the ones who get all the bad press.

iv avoided these nkorea threads

but i got to weigh in...

what we have here, is a young hot head, with a red button.

i say not to provoke him..as hes authorised by his people, and has adopted a nuclear force

though i do sense that its all a big bluff...he can talk the talk, but if he was to launch an attack. i think he would become isolated and the world would back us, in serving some liberty

for queen n country
god save the queen

lol

peace



why cant we understand that everytime we sanction their people, he gains more support from them in justifying these "anxious" decisions
we need to teach them that what they have set up, is a reaction to negativity....where is the love

lol... i make myself smile

reply to post by Miracula


Bit harsh?

reply to post by frazzle


See the thing is that you took my ONE post and my ONE comment and made it about something completely different from the topic of this thread even. I am on your side….I know that the ones in the background are the ones really running the show and so on and so on, I don't need to be educated about that but thanks.

reply to post by Miracula


"Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. For this reason, it is synonymous with and sometimes called black propaganda. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout)."

Who do YOU work for?? lol

Originally posted by harbour45
reply to post by frazzle

 

See the thing is that you took my ONE post and my ONE comment and made it about something completely different from the topic of this thread even. I am on your side….I know that the ones in the background are the ones really running the show and so on and so on, I don't need to be educated about that but thanks.

Sorry I didn't mean to come off like I was lecturing but do you think money isn't at the bottom of this recent flare up with North Korea? What I've said is definitely on topic if you aren't just looking at the superficial aspects of this back and forth rhetoric.

Granted its only my opinion, but behind all the talk this whole uptick in tension with NK is probably more about China and their role in BRICS. The fed bankers have to stop that movement before it gains any more traction or any more members, such as Iran and Indonesia, and China has a treaty to protect North Korea which is being used as a back door to get China to back off working toward independence from the fed.

JMO

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Found the Thread.

Great stuff! S&F for sure

Originally posted by ElohimJD

Originally posted by Char-Lee

What was it ...lats year?...We had a sub sitting off Southern Ca and it went undetected by our military.

Yes.

A Yono class Chinese minisubmarine (same ones Iran and NK currently possess) was able to succesfully remain in the California waters for weeks undetected by US Coast guard forces. That was a test run to determine if the planned delivery of these nuclear devices would be successful. at least 5 Yono class submarines were seen leaving NK on February 17th, 2013 reported on EU Times, suspected to be armed with small scale nuclear devices. They travel slowly (4-8 knots submerged) to appear as whales to US defenses. Traveling 4.2 knots they would be arriving in US port waters 45 days later or... you guessed it April 4th, 2013.

The nuclear threat from NK on US soil is not via ICBM delivery, but by small scale nuclear devices detonated right off our coastline by Yono class minisubmarines, carried into port by freighting vessles from China (COSTCO etc.) they surface and launch with only a few kilometers of distance needed to strike at the heart of several US cities at the same moment in time.

Star Wars cannot prevent this approach (not enough time for interception).
An air missle deffense shield in the Pacific cannot prevent this approach (beneath the water).
US coast guard survalance technology cannot prevent this approach (failed to catch China's unit in 2010).
US Port Authority will have no way of preventing this approach (the freighters will just bring the subs close, from there the subs detatch and prot authorty deals with the commerse).

The second trumpet is ready to sound.

God Bless,

I was thinking this same exact thing. All this talk from the media about NK not having long range rockets to hit the mainland. But no mention of a possible sub setting off the coast of California getting ready to launch a nuke. This would make sense as far as their map with hit locations. I could see New York then being able to be hit with a submarine setting off the coast.

does anyone remember when there was something off the coast of California in the sky not to long ago that appeared to look like a rocket trail? News kept saying it was something else. But all the photos and video it appeared to be a rocket trail.

Originally posted by Seek_Truth
reply to post by Miracula

 

"Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. For this reason, it is synonymous with and sometimes called black propaganda. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout)."

Who do YOU work for?? lol

Just started another thread concerning this same issue and revolving around the actual translation of the "state of war" declaration made by Un..I wanted to quote you and add it to the new thread, but I'm not sure if that's legal, so instead I'll just invite you to that thread (WWIII Forum), and give you the link to the "False Translation" article:

www.globalresearch.ca...

reply to post by frazzle


No problem but I think you chose the wrong post to reply too because my post wasn't leading anywhere near your topics/issues so how could my replies be helpful or complimentary. Or I guess that was the point.

According to the USA-240 OTV-3 Orbit vehicle data and the Global Command and Control System which I gathered from the latest imagery database from the SIPRNET network, no movements are taking place at the launch site near the region.

Originally posted by GeneralChaos
I think what amuses me and confounds me the most is how people on this site are generally so distrustful of the corporate government owned,run,and controlled media yet, you people seem to have no problem taking their word at face value on this. Am I the only one who sees the possibility that absolutely NONE of these threats were EVER made and this is ALL propaganda ??

HELLO?!?!?!?

As much as I dislike the current administration, their program is on a different track than N Korea. The N Korean Communist propaganda is some serious disinfo... for instance someone here posted a site that featured a N Korean dissident who escaped and started his own freedom radio show in S Korea, and the statement was that the govt propaganda portrayed the leader as having been born on some sacred place when he was really born in the Soviet Union. This may seem like a petty issue, but when it's the state owned Communist monopoly, they get away with this and the people are none the wiser because they have no other sources to go to.
A different tactic has to be employed in a place such as the US where the media(as controlled as it is) is not State run and owned and there are alternatives.

In any case, no I don't think this is just fear mongering of the Obama admin. I doubt they would have anything to gain by making a false claim that N Korea wants a strike on the US. The only thing this admin won't admit is they are probably on the same side as N Korea by way of so many of the people being Marxist-Leninists.

In the real world a North Korea bomb would come via fishing troller or cartel route. North Korea is linked to many of the cartels. The sanctions have had N. Korea working underground for decades. I heard once that North Koreans were behind some of the more sophisticated subs being used by the cartels. I am fairly certain one was captured and it was referred to as a game changer.

If a ton of coke can find its way in so can a hundred nukes. Its the mutually assured destruction side of this that will see us safeguarded. Try as we might we cannot keep out the weekly thousands who illegally cross our borders.

America is wide open, and always has been. A terrorist, North Korea any with the will could find a way. We expect this from North Korea and I dont see anything new here. China will always come to North Koreas aid and this makes them 100% untouchable. They know it and they will and do talk all the # they like! North Korea is no joke, if they had any intent on really using a nuke on the US there would already be a nuke in country.

North Korean Migit Sub.
www.popularmechanics.com...

The US is keeing "hush hush" about all this because NK has no oil or no opium poppies. I will bet all my $$$ that the US will not attack NK.

Secondly, I think this whole NK having stockpiles of missiles is nonsense. They do not have any from my internal sources. What you see in the media of them launching missiles that is all done from a studio.

NK is poor. Very very poor country, now do you all think NK has all that money to stockpile missiles??

Now come on. Wake up guys.

reply to post by NorEaster


Yeah, I did on the read on the BBC that North Korea's mid-range missile can barely hit Guam from the coastline. They don't have any nuclear warheads capable of hitting the U.S. mainland.

They do not have missiles at all. What are you guys talking about????
Its a poor country.