North Korea Approves Nuclear Strike On America

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by GeneralChaos

 

Don't have to....we're pretty brainwashed by our own media as well...but unlike the North Koreans, we do have unfettered access to other media sources.

Okay, so say North Koreans are brainwashed and Americans have unfettered access to other media. What difference does that make if knowing the ugly truth doesn't allow the more informed in our midst any more ability to change the direction of this country than a North Korean has to change the direction of his?

Access is worthless if a majority of the people are satisfied with the 24/7 propaganda and programming. We simply can't get past the beeeeleeeevers to rein in those who spout the propaganda and write the programming.

Oh man watching it on CNN now!

Not sure if this has been posted:

North Korea may launch mid-range missile

South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin says the North appears to have moved a medium-range ballistic missile to its east coast for a possible test launch.

Kim made the remarks on Thursday at a parliamentary committee meeting. A recent US intelligence image appears to show the missile being moved by train to a launch site on the coast. Kim said that the missile is believed to have a considerable range. He added it could be for testing or drills.

South Korea apparently thinks the missile is a mid-range Musdan, unveiled at a North Korean military parade in 2010. The Musdan is estimated to have a range of 3,000-5,000 kilometers. Japan and the US Pacific island of Guam, home to US bases, are within its range.

South Korean officials say they cannot rule out the possibility that North Korea will fire the missile. They say they are closely monitoring the situation in close consultation with the United States and Japan.

Apr. 4, 2013 - Updated 11:44 UTC Newsline

Newsline

Even so, I have one haunting question.....Are we missing A or The bigger picture? While we scramble with our missile defense systems, gather additional forces into one corner of the world, are we being set-up for a bigger fall? Perhaps the Mid East, Russia or the borders? I have no idea, but something about this whole thing doesn't feel right! Is this the real deal, or a great distraction?

Can some Military people please weigh in on this missile?

Pax

reply to post by tony9802


I think lil Kim is using a cheap website from China to transliterate his official statements.
He didnt say that he is going to "start a nuclear war" he said he was going to "start seeing a new whore".
See how easy sh@t gets twisted.

Originally posted by Britster1821

To be honest, that's the first question I had when I read that. Bloomberg mentions here, that NK finally does have China's financial backing.

Maybe they received their approval from China? Or is that too far-fetched?

My guess is that China is using North Korea to test our defenses, making us "show our cards" so to speak.
What I can promise you is that every move we make in response to these threats is being watched like a hawk.
China wants to see what we've got...
It's either that or lil Un really is out of his mind.

if you couple this article with the way people responded to "North Korean Leader Kim Jong-Un Meets Retired Us Basketball Player Dennis Rodman" it makes a lot of sense. He was probably hurt by the world and especially American response of laughing at him and his offer of wanting peace.

he is young and was educated outside Korea and was always interested in basket ball if this is correct.

According to reports first published in Japanese newspapers, he went to school in Switzerland near Bern. First reports claimed he attended the private English-language "International School" in Gümligen near Bern under the name "Chol-pak" or "Pak-chol" from 1993 until 1998.[14][15][16] He was described as shy, a good student who got along well with his classmates and was a basketball fan

en.wikipedia.org...

“Behave badly – always careful to choose the time, always retaining control of the situation — and North Korea knows from experience that attention will be paid, even over the grinding of big power teeth,” Mr. Church writes. What North Korea fears most is being swept away in the tide of big power history, says Mr. Church. So it is parlaying its few, weak cards as best it can. It seeks dialogue with the United States, which it fought in the Korean War, but that dialogue was virtually nixed after former President George Bush declared North Korea part of an “axis of evil” in 2002, as I’ve reported before.

rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com...

reply to post by Bone75


China has had ample opportunity to conquer North America. Why wait until now? More sporting of them than defeating the natives? What?

Originally posted by Kuroodo
reply to post by Bearack

 

Defcon 4

Heres info:

While there is no demonstrable threat to the United States itself, any war in Korea does have the potential to become a limited nuclear conflict. We repeat: *** There is no credible threat to the United States *** However, any nuclear conflict will significantly affect public perception, and may cause a run on supplies. Additionally, fallout from any nuclear detonation will reach the U.S. mainland within a couple days if less, depending on winds. Based on the type of nuclear weapons that will likely be used in any conflict, radiation reaching the U.S. will probably be minimal and cause no significant health hazard. Nevertheless, proper precautions are always advised. We wish to emphasis that this is merely a precautionary advisory considering a "worst-case" scenario which may not and probably will not happen. At this time, there have been no troop movements by North Korea which would indicate preparations for an attack.

www.defconwarningsystem.com...

I don't trust this website. It's Not a government or defense dept website. It may pull data from the real site but this can't be IT. Therefore this site could have lag in reports.

Whats the official government site with this info?

reply to post by PutAQuarterIn


North Korea has cut the phone line plenty of times before......last time was in 2009....it left about 80 South Korean workers stuck above the border for more then a day..

reply to post by JohnPhoenix


It depends... first the defcons are not released to the public in realtime. Second you can have one particular thing like... say ICBM sites at defcon 3 and the armed forces at 4 and the sac at 2... so... theres not really an official website that says "the united states are all at defcon x" right now... again, the information is not for public released in real time.

EDIT: btw I dont know if they still call it defcon or fpcon (normal, alpha, bravo, charlie, delta)

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by tony9802

 

I'll bet that during the sanctions on NK that there were also financial sanctions which might have removed a ton of Kim's personal wealth and that that's what this is about to a degree, that he wants his money back.

Again, I'm pretty sure it's as much about money as a power play. Kim totally flipped out when a certain sanction hit.. just say'n.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Since Pakistan, Iran, and NK all Got the same warhead design from China then they will be able to do what they want as long as their missiles can get it up their. With North Korea and Iran sending Satellites into orbit, that proves that they have the basic goods to get the job done. They don't know if they can hit a particular city let alone state because as far as we know they have not tried to target something with a re-entry warhead.

not sure what this is worth to you guys but I'm just saying what I know. I don't think our govt is taking this as lightly as they say they are. reason for thinking so. I seen my first string of military dual rotor helicopters yesterday moving from the northern military base in my state to the south. and all day today they've had atleast one military chopper circling the GM building I work at. most likely due to the fact this plant is converted over to a tank plant during wartime. just sayin take it for what it's worth to you but I'm keeping my eyes open and ears to the ground.

reply to post by paxnatus


its a copy of the russian r27... and its a submarine launched missile,... but can be also launched from land platform. Theres not much to tell really besides the information you can get anywhere. From NK they can reach... Guam maybe... from a sub, well... anywhere the sub manages to get close to. It can carry a conventional or nuclear warhead... and... Russia also sold a few foxtrot and golf II subs to north korea for "scrap"...

hey... nothing personal... just business

reply to post by FraternitasSaturni


Thank you so much for your reply. I realize I could have googled, but I wanted first hand knowledge. You know what I mean.

So is NK frontin for China or should we be very concerned? I am trying not to panic, so anything you have to say will be appreciated.

Pax

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Is Un sitting on a booster seat?

well i dont know who to believe
the Western propoganda or the North Koreans propoganda.
Realy i am at a loss
why should i believe anything any government says?

just for a different perspective on the news, i would suggest visiting this LINK (korean central news agency)

the last 3 days of news is quite interesting.
theres not any mention of N. Korea moving any warheads anywhere
but what is mentioned a few times is the 'military excersises' being performed by the US over South Korea.

its good to hear from both sides

this is from the 2nd April

At this time, too, they are staging DPRK-targeted madcap joint military exercises in the sky, land and seas of south Korea under various codenames together with the south Korean warmongers after massively introducing huge aggression forces and war hardware into it.

3rd April

The U.S. imperialists and the south Korean military warmongers' madcap war exercises aimed to ignite a nuclear war against the DPRK has entered the practical step, after going beyond the danger line, the statement said, and went on:

23rd Chemical Battalion Re-Deployed in South Korea

3rd April

Pyongyang, April 3 (KCNA) -- The 23rd Chemical Battalion of the U.S. Army based in Seattle City, Washington State was recently redeployed in the U.S. Second Division in south Korea. It was reported that an official ceremony in this regard will taken place in Uijongbu, Kyonggi Province on April 4. The battalion was stationed in the U.S. military base in Chilgok, North Kyongsang Province as it belonged to the 19th battle area support command of the U.S. imperialist aggressor forces till 2004. It was withdrawn to the U.S. mainland. This battalion mercilessly killed many people in the Korean war and other wars.

Heres the link again Korean Central News Agency

I honestly dont know if this source is reliable, which is exactly how i feel about Western Media.
anyhoo, take it with a grain of salt etc etc

How nice of them to give the opposition a time window to take out their very limited nuclear delivery vehicles.

Originally posted by Merinda
How nice of them to give the opposition a time window to take out their very limited nuclear delivery vehicles.

Perhaps they aren't that stupid. I think the operative word for what's happening may be feint.

feint (fnt)
n.
1. A feigned attack designed to draw defensive action away from an intended target.
2. A deceptive action calculated to divert attention from one's real purpose. See Synonyms at wile.
v. feint·ed, feint·ing, feints
v.intr.
To make a feint.
v.tr.
1. To deceive with a feint.
2. To make a deceptive show of.

www.thefreedictionary.com...

What the intended target might be and the methodology in hitting it is anyone's guess. That's what makes life interesting, if the PTB didn't leave us constantly guessing over their next planned disaster what a boring grind it would be, just being left to our own devices and leaving others to theirs.

Originally posted by Merinda
How nice of them to give the opposition a time window to take out their very limited nuclear delivery vehicles.

They don't have a nuke miniaturized enough to be placed on a missile unless someone gave them one. Building the nuke is only half the battle, making it small enough to out on a missile is the other half.

Only way they can deliver a nuke at the moment is as a plane dropped bomb, or through clandestine methods. I highly doubt they can even launch nuclear artillery yet, as that too would require sufficient miniaturization.