What would you do without your large Sodas in the USA?

I, for one, would become like a heroin addict without a fix. I would be the most miserable B**ch to be around. I Love, Love, Love my Dr. Pepper and would not go a day without it. I would go to a dark back alley to meet with sketchy gas station attendants, offering up my body for payment just to get a fix of my sweet, wonderful, mood altering sugary caffeinated substance.

Originally posted by Rodinus
if someone takes the initiative to try and ban certain products that cause serious major population health problems which by the following lead to humongous amounts of public money ; (YOUR) hard earned money being spent to cover these problems... then think about it!

Here's a novel idea: FREEDOM and LIBERTY.

Not only should every American adult have the freedom and liberty to consume what they want (without exception), every adult American should have the freedom and liberty to do as they wish with the money they earn. Eliminiate public health spending entirely and guess what? Freedom suddenly becomes reality.

I don't even drink pop, but that doesn't mean it is any of Supernanny Bloomburg's business who does or how much they do. Where in the blue hell does the "save everyone from themselves" mindset come from, anyway?

I only drink distilled water. Please stop stereotyping 300 million plus people.

I don't think any of you should be told what you can consume or how much, but you'd be better off not drinking large quantities of coke. People that drink coca cola on a regular basis are indeed addicted to it.

It is fattening and all too often I see people complaining their new diet isn't working while they have a big glass of coke they're chugging back, as they say this. . So they say they just have big bones. Dinasaurs have big bones.

Its not like you're being banned from drinking it altogether, just large cup sizes right?

I know if I needed more to drink I'd just buy an extra cup.

No real big deal. The ban isn't on consumption. It is on containers.

Propaganda hasn't gotten me to believe because I see no birds on snowy trees doesn't necessarily mean I think starving Americans ate them all.

Just buy an extra container or two if you are that thirsty and need your soda fix. No need to bust a vessel over the whole thing.

i wonder if the beer hat will drop down to only one can, because im not sure its going to work all that great with just one, on one side

I drink soda, but I only tend to drink non-sugary sodas. They don't quench my thirst and make me want more and more. However, I'm trying to drink water more often. So, yeah.

Originally posted by Terminal1
I know if I needed more to drink I'd just buy an extra cup.

No real big deal. The ban isn't on consumption. It is on containers.

Propaganda hasn't gotten me to believe because I see no birds on snowy trees doesn't necessarily mean I think starving Americans ate them all.

Just buy an extra container or two if you are that thirsty and need your soda fix. No need to bust a vessel over the whole thing.

OK, we've established where you stand on the open issue, but I'd like to dig a bit deeper. WHY are you OK with the government interjecting themself in a personal matter such as how large a goddamned drink a man purchases? Do you fail to see a massive disconnect in the law surrounding a nation in which abortion is legal because it is "the woman's body and the woman's choice", yet local bans are placed on things like trans fat and big gulps? I'm a tax paying American adult... personally I have two easily understood arguments to present to any politician who think it is their place to be my mommy... one argument is the tall finger on my right hand, the other is his twin brother on my left. Things like this tick me off to no end. The majority of Americas don't agree with soda size restrictions or trans fat bans or many of the other infringements on personal choices... but the poor dumb idiots, Lord bless them, keep electing these tinkering crusaders like Bloomburg and I'll be damned if I can understand why or how.

Originally posted by Rodinus
What would you do without your large Sodas in the USA?

Buy 1 get 1 free would soon replace large sodas.

Freedom to damage your health shouldn't be taken away.

I agree that people should be allowed to have the option to choose what they consume freely in countries like US.

However in many of the places with nationalized health care, I would be happier If I know that my taxes goes towards healing the unfortunate more so, then the ones who deliberately and knowingly poison them selves.

The constitution of most commercial sodas is highly acidic, with Coca-Cola having a pH of 2.8. Normal blood pH level is around 7.3-7.4, which is slightly alkaline. Anything lower then that (more acidic that is), has been linked with cancers and other diseases.

Something to think about.

Buy a good juicer.

Get carrots,celery,lemon juice,and orange juice.
Cut up celery and carrots.
Put them into juicer and turn it on high.
Set to puree.
Pour it into a empty bottle/glass/flask/cup.

Then drink to your health.

No dioxin.
No fluoride water.
No heavy metals.
No benzoic acid or benzene
Low Sodium.
No corn syrup(so no mercury)
No azo dye.
(Potentially) No pesticides.
(Potentially) No GMO.
No BPA.
No MSG.
No phenylalanine.


Nice

I'm living here in Canada, where we still have 16 and 32oz drinks.

I'm okay with a 16 oz limit. Bars and restaurants here mostly offer "unlimited" free refils anyway, so I'm not seeing what all the fuss is about.

Personally, I prefer a smaller glass anyway as it's easier to keep the pop cold - by the time u get to the end of anything larger than a 16oz drink ice cubes have melted and it's warmed up.

Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by Rodinus
What would you do without your large Sodas in the USA?

Buy 1 get 1 free would soon replace large sodas.

Freedom to damage your health shouldn't be taken away.

Exactly. There are a myriad of ways around this proposed law that make it a moot point anyway.

If someone wants to drink 2 liters of pop in a single cup, then let them. In the USA, Americans already consume about one quarter of the Earth's entire resources but account for less than 5% of the Earth's population.

If Americans want to excess consume themselves to early deaths, then let them.

The ban itself was just silly.

No one put a gun to people's heads and made them drink sodas.
No one put a gun to people's heads and made them drink an excessive amount of said sodas.

Same goes for donuts, candy, fatty foods, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Back in the 70's when I was a kid, my mom was very strict with the sodas: one can a day and that's it.

But MOOOOOOM! Why?

Because it will make your teeth fall out.

Same thing for candy. My mom pushed the fruit, water and milk.

This was even taught in health class later on in high school: our bodies need sugars, but consuming things that are high in sugar and in excessive amounts are not good for you.

So my take on it is: the government feels that I was not educated enough to know that I most likely should not be trying to drink 64 ounces of sugary soda in one day (however, diet sodas with toxic artificial sweeteners are O.K.!).

Nanny state. Uhg.

However, what made this ban even more silly is the numerous ways to go around the ban: just by two drinks. Just get that free refill. Just buy your 2 liter soda bottles at the store and carry them home.

Down here in the south where I live, sweet ice tea is big. I didn't see any mention of sweet ice tea. And yes, down here you can get a Big Gulp of that.

To me this was just a push to see how far they could go. Get this passed and not blocked, and we can go after all sorts of things like:

All those fancy coffees that have all sorts of sugar and syrups in them.
Donuts, cakes, pastries, Lil Debbie cakes.
Large sugary energy drinks.
All sorts of bans on certain kinds of candies, if not all.

Hell: just ban sugar, period.

Then we'll work on fats next. Get them banned too.

Why? Because we want you to eat what WE want you to eat. We want you to only buy the products that WE want you to buy.

Not because they care about your health. Hell, they don't really care about the cost of health care either.

But they DO take a GREAT interest in where you spend you money. What products you buy from what companies.

You know, right? Because companies can make campaign donations of course..........

Think about. It's not about your health. Not at all.

It's about Control. It's ALWAYS about control.

Originally posted by aananda
However in many of the places with nationalized health care, I would be happier If I know that my taxes goes towards healing the unfortunate more so, then the ones who deliberately and knowingly poison them selves.
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I agree and have stated many times that nationalized healthcare is anathema of freedom and liberty. I should not have to pay the price for your vices, nor should have to pay for mine. There are two roads which can be traveled to resolve that...
1. Federally proscribed and enforced temperance, or
2. Personal Responsibility for yourself, your decisions, and the cost of them.

I am not that damn old. I grew up in the 80s, for goodness sake. Yet it seems to me that in the short span since I was a child, personal responsibility has gone from an honorable, encouraged, even expected trait to a profanity to many. That's sad. Life was a hell of a lot better when we had people who paid the price of their own decisions and were told "Damn, sucks to be you." Now, as we're all paying for someone else's choices it's more of a "Sucks to be us." situation.

Also, on a very related note, if it really was about crap like nationalized healthcare and everyone else paying the bill for the unhealthy choices of some, why didn't SuperNanny Bloomburg start with food stamp reform? Tax dollars intended to provide nutrition to the poor being used, instead, to buy junk food, 2 liter bottles of pop, and food with less nutritive value than just taking a handfull of vitamins with a glass of water. Nope, that wouldn't work. Bloomy depends way too much on the food stamp crowd vote to ever do that. Hypocritical little rich man, completely lacking in both testicles and convictions.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6


Where in the blue hell does the "save everyone from themselves" mindset come from, anyway?

I think you answered that earlier in your post

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Eliminiate public health spending entirely and guess what?

Everyone's tax dollars go toward the epidemic of diabetes in this country...and it is an epidemic...

Among high income countries, the United States tops the list with the highest prevalence of diabetes, around 11 percent in 2008, followed by Malta, Greenland and New Zealand. France and the Netherlands had the lowest rates, between 5 and 6 percent.

www.pbs.org...

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Rodinus

You state that you are not a bully and that you are asking polite question.

Your question, and I am paraphrasing here is:

"Given that there is an obesity crises in America"......

Well first of all, its not a given. The BMI at which a person is considered overweight is much lower today than it was in 1998. Why did the WHO instruct the medical community to reduce BMI? And since anybody talking about the "obesity crisis" lumps in obese people with people who are even slightly overwieght, it highly questionable to claim there is a crisis. And considering that overwieght people live longer than normal wieght or underwieght people, can you tell me exactly why its bad to be over wieght?

"and that obese people raise health care cost..."

Actually, obese people and even smoker's don't raise health care costs. Insurance companies do! Big Pharma is also responsible for a lot more in health care costs than smokers or obese people

"would a reasonable person not support a ban on extra large drinks?

So in your question, it is implied that anyone who disagrees with the ban is therefore "unreasonable".

Explain to me - how you can frame your question in this matter in the way that you have and then claim to be just asking a "polite' question.

You are not - you ARE a bully and you are trolling. In fact, I am almost certain that you are paid trail for the anti-obesity campaigners!

Reasonable people don't want the government to govern personal behavior and choices. Reasonable people want to impose limits on government intrusions in private lives. Reasonable people don't wish to see industries sued into bankruptcy and then their products taxed to death.

Unreasonable people - Bloomberg - can't bother to do the job they were elected for but still decide that they know know "what is good for everyone else".

BTW - I don't drink soda at all but if the population will defend my choice to smoke and make reasonable comprises as to where and when, then I will be happy to defend their choice to eat and drink as they choose.

Tired of Control Freaks

Originally posted by tluna1
I, for one, would become like a heroin addict without a fix. I would be the most miserable B**ch to be around. I Love, Love, Love my Dr. Pepper and would not go a day without it. I would go to a dark back alley to meet with sketchy gas station attendants, offering up my body for payment just to get a fix of my sweet, wonderful, mood altering sugary caffeinated substance.

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It boggles my mind why this posy is even allowed. You're sterostyping Americans like we're the only ones to drink soda... I'm an american and rarely drink soda. As far as banning it goes... People should be able to drink what want and self govern themselves. How is it anyones business how much soda one drinks? Or how much of a certain food someone might eat... Its ridicilous!


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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Eliminiate public health spending entirely and guess what?

Everyone's tax dollars go toward the epidemic of diabetes in this country...and it is an epidemic...

Then that would be covered by private dollars because, as I stated above, I'd eliminate public spending on health. BYE BYE OBAMACARE and all the abominations which lead us down that road, sayonara tax dollars used for anything outside disease research and grants.