Quake Watch 2013

reply to post by dreamfox1


[ The quakes are almost equal distance apart??? ]

like an giant zipper?

PuterMan
It is a conspiracy I tell you!

!WELL!

It IS about time you woke up. LOLOLOL.

Sure appreciate all your hard work on this thread and for the public re quakes.

Have a blessed week.

It's been about two weeks since my last full meltdown. I've been working very hard to maintain an even keel. During my last episode, towards the end of my emotion eruption, I rhythmically banged my head against the bottom of the tub and screamed, "they're all liars."

This only subsided when I finally interrupted my ranting and told myself to "just shut- up".
Eventually I won the argument and the rage has been quiet ever since. Well, it's there. It's just that I have tamped it down every time something annoying threat my peace. My mind is still ugly. But quiet.

Right now I am trying to quiet myself. I am angry because I can read. And like to. I read a report on the Oklahoma earthquakes. This is no shock to me since I compulsively follow the graphs and squiggly lines. I knew there were lots of earthquakes there. In fact, the report said there were 16. This too didn't shock me. It's what wasn't said in the article that infuriated me. No. Rather. It was the ---- now i'm starting to steam again___=

it was that mr freakin' Holland is playing dumb. Stupid. Growl.

I came on ATS this morning just to post a note on the number 16. It's just a number. I can handle the math. I can handle science. But the rest I can't do. Humans do obey the laws of physics and nature and math. But, we have become --- ah, forget it. I was just going to link to the news article and not even comment. I was just going to be completely lazy and right what I've seen as 2nd line in order to follow the rules.

but
mr
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made
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mad


(but I won't be banging my head today- after this i'll go back to cleaning and keep the ship upright)

oh the freakin' new article.....

www.news9.com...

Hundreds of people felt this Mag 3.7 midwestern quarry blast.

Chicago Tribune

That's a decent sized blast.


ETA:
It's a mystery!

However, representatives at Vulcan Materials quarry in McCook, along the border with Countryside, said they were not blasting on Monday.

CBS News

The "last blast" required to turn the quarry into a huge reservoir to help control flooding was back on 23 September 2013. last blast


Originially, USGS had this "event" listed as a quake 1.4 km deep. They then labelled it a blast. Let's see if it changes again.

This quake/blast was around 60 miles south of me. didn't feel a thing.

It took them almost 2 hours to acknowledge that it even occurred. WGN (local broadcast) started reporting around 12:45P.M. . Didn't see it posted on anything else until about 1/2 hour.

Looks like a neighborhood area where they have it marked. So unless it was underground, I don't know how it could have been a quarry blast.. Also the quarry managers claim they were not doing any blasting today. So who knows???

I'm off to work now. Tomorrow I will call call a man I know at U of I and see If he can give me alittle more info.

I was looking at the USGS map and was wondering what this icon was

reply to post by crappiekat

Hmmm...
The epicenter of the 'blast' was marked directly on this building:


Somebody making a large surprise withdrawal?

I understand Jim Berkland is predicting a big 8.X quake for the Cascadia zone . . . on B4 it's News. What's his accuracy score? Is it really 80% as claimed?

Heading for shower.

BO XIAN
I understand Jim Berkland is predicting a big 8.X quake for the Cascadia zone . . . on B4 it's News. What's his accuracy score? Is it really 80% as claimed?

Heading for shower.

Funny you should mention that. I was just coming on to say we are getting due for a Mag 8 and of course Cascadia is at that point.

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reply to post by PuterMan


WOW - An 8.X quake on the Cascadia subduction zone could be devastating to the northern coast of the western U S and the southern coast of western Canada.

If it hits in the right area it could cost several hundred thousand to a couple of million lives. It could be the worst quake in American history since the New Madrid quake series; only this time in a heavily populated area. I certainly hope and pray that the prediction is wrong.

Does he say when? Days, weeks? Just curious.

reply to post by AlexanderM


I would say it is right now, in geological terms of course. That is the problem we have.

People want to know in terms of 'let me know so I can leave. A weeks notice would be good."

Mother nature does not give a crap for mankind's sense of time. A week to her is like a split second to us.


Even if the Government could tell you when, they would never do so. There is no way they could cope with 10 million people sitting around in the desert. From a Government perspective, it is far better to loose the cities, the people and the accumulated Californian debt. TO them it is just a numbers game.

Several people in this thread have already said, 'Get out now.' When nothing happens for a week people think of them as doomsayers. Mother nature does not even know what a week is. It is too small a period of time.

Cascadia will go, and soon.

P

That's not what I meant. The guy made a prediction, just wondering how specific, date wise?

reply to post by AlexanderM


2013 was the best I could find, nothing more specific. Look him up on google, he has a following.

P

reply to post by BO XIAN

Jim Berkland predicted the 89 San Francisco (Loma Prieta) World Series Quake, that is his last accurate one.
He's in it for the $ now, you have to subscribe to his newsletter to get the predictions, they are released to the public on his forum a month afterwards.
Waste of time. Every month he predicts a 3-4 in California and a 6 or 7 on the Ring of Fire, geez I can do that and be 80% accurate.
No need to evacuate, but I suggest Californians buy more NZ Lamb in the mean time, keep the ships moving.
NZ Lamb chops with mashed potatoes and peas, yum.

reply to post by muzzy



THANKS Muzzy, PuterMan . . . appreciate the grounding in reality you provide on such as Berkland et al and etc.

If Berkland has a useful information product to sell, I don't mind him making money off of it. If he's merely stringing hapless undiscerning folks along for the money of it--with mostly delivering unfulfilled predictions . . . that's not very cool.

I was a bit surprised to see his name come up . . . and the mag 8 prediction for Cascadia . . . was interesting.

All the more so in the sense that it has SEEMED LIKE in recent months, that more folks of various reputations have been exclaiming about how ripe the Left Coast and particularly Cascadia to Vancouver etc. supposedly increasingly are to major quakes.

reply to post by AlexanderM

Does he say when? Days, weeks? Just curious.

Unless I am mistake he first mooted this in 2011 and we are still waiting, but then as pheonix358 says what is 2 years to Mama Nature?

I don't believe that, scientist or not, he is any more accurate that anyone else and I would point out that just because he predicted Loma Prietta does not make him good at predictions. That was one quake. Dis he predict Banda or Tohoku? Nope. Did he accurately predict any mag 8 or mag 7. His web site appears to cease at 2010 and I can''t find anything later than that other than a few sporadic comments on faceache.(Anyone have a link to later predictions?) I think he has gone out of the business and his 'fame' is being kept alive by the doommongering machine.

Of the last predictions on his own site which are for 2010 we have

(1) 3.5-6.5M within 2-degrees of Mt. Diablo (Lat 37.9N; Lon. 121.9W)

(2) 3.5-6.5M within 2-degrees of Los Angeles (34.0N; 118.0W)

(3) 3.5-6.5M with an epicentral address of Washington or Oregon.

(4) 7.0+M major quake globally, most likely in the Pacific Ring of Fire.

Source

Anyone who considers those to be predictions worth anything needs their head examining.

The first item on the list produces this list

2 quakes of a size that is perfectly normal for the area and both at the lowest end of the prediction. I don't call that a hit.

The second prediction 7 quakes all within normal parameters for the area selected.

The third. A single Mag 3.8 in an area where on average there are 18.75 earthquakes of Mag 3.5 and greater annually thus the chance of a hit in any month is pretty much guaranteed.

The last one he got right (Sort the list by magnitude) - a magnitude 7.0 in Indonesia but at 1+ potentially a month (look at my list above - currently 19.2 days average between mag 7s) such a prediction is not exactly impressive.

Overall I do not believe his ability is any greater or lesser than anyone else guessing future earthquakes.

@Muzzy

Every month he predicts a 3-4 in California and a 6 or 7 on the Ring of Fire, geez I can do that and be 80% accurate.

Only 80% Mr Muzzy?

Actually this site has the sort of predictions I can believe in. xyz in the next 30 years.

On another note I watched 2012 (The movie) yesterday. What a half baked doom mongers hand book that is! a 10.9 in California and tsunami waves reaching the top of Mt Everest? OK, whatever! I think the script must have been by Berkland and Retrov

I'm not a Jim Berkland fan or defender.
Yesterday I checked out a different earthquake forum (egads!) and noticed this post. I have no idea if it is the real Jim Berkland, but it sounds like it could be. He says he has never made a prediction for a mag 8, or larger.

unusual swarms in California and in yellowstone...look for the connection with them....
the solar maxium ..ore stress on the western part of the amerikan plate....??????????

thinkprogress.org...

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news.nationalgeographic.com...

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switchboard.nrdc.org...

do the hokey pokey
and turn yourself around