Breaking News - Shooting at Newtown, Connecticut elementary school.

See this is where I think they should put TV, to good use instead of promote the crap they do.

As like a special service, for free or government pay for it, they print money out of thin air why not. But anyhow put something on TV that says HEY! Is some thing bothering you, if so we are here to help you, help you to understand your problem, just give us a call.

I'm sure with all the brains around they could do some thing for mental health, and try and stop these nut jobs before they kill more people, it could be small mental health issuses in some cases.

No one that I see is doing anything to try and help these people, who are sick, very sick.

The News tells them they can be stars, for a day.

Another incident without a motive, this is the red flag. You see when a person goes to such preparation as he did, as James Holmes did, there has to be a motive and a goal. But here we have "just some nut that did it because ____ blah" media fills in the spaces with a contrived story. They did it with 911 instantly. Lunatics will almost always do something poorly constructed without a plan, hence random acts of violence of a lesser magnitude. This guy prepared a head of time for this, and now the timing with all these shootings. The SOB's want to disarm us and will sacrifice anyone to achieve the goal.

I am trying to make the correlation between his Mother and her students. If it was because she cared more about the students and it was a thing of jealousy why then kill them all and after killing her first? This stinks to high heaven.

Originally posted by Transcendent
I found this a little interesting that CNN would point this out.
www.cnn.com...

Perhaps she was dealing with one of the gunman on her off-time? Who knows, I'm just curious as to why her of all the other dead (excluding principle) would be pointed out on cnn's frontpage.

All that does is conflict with a previous story of the shooter arguing with the principal over the intercom in the office.

No surprise that it would.
WHo is the vice principal and why did they come back alive.
Isn't it convenient that there was a parent there unnamed to give us this new narrative?

Originally posted by Transcendent
www.cnn.com...
Perhaps she was dealing with one of the gunman on her off-time?

Why does an elementary school need a full-time shrink anyway? Probably just to hand out all the Paxil and Ritalin pills.

Originally posted by OOOOOO
See this is where I think they should put TV, to good use instead of promote the crap they do.

As like a special service, for free or government pay for it, they print money out of thin air why not. But anyhow put something on TV that says HEY! Is some thing bothering you, if so we are here to help you, help you to understand your problem, just give us a call.

I'm sure with all the brains around they could do some thing for mental health, and try and stop these nut jobs before they kill more people, it could be small mental health issuses in some cases.

No one that I see is doing anything to try and help these people, who are sick, very sick.

The News tells them they can be stars, for a day.

edit on 14-12-2012 by OOOOOO because: (no reason given)

You make a good point, it's in fact a very good idea. However a small point of etiquette I'm calling you on is "nutjobs". I've always found using such terms for the mentally ill quite offensive. Would you use similar terms for other illnesses ? I think the alienation of the mentally ill is half the problem. It's really ingrained in our cultures. My sister works in mental health and she's heard trained clinical psychologists refer to the mentally ill as nutnuts. If even the professionals use such terms what hope have they got ?

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by smokenmirrors

 

Nothing is official as of yet, it's all hearsay and conjecture really. I saw a report saying over 100 rounds were fired, that is not very accurate at all if true. 100 shots to kill that many people in a classroom is not a good hit percentage at all.

That's not necessarily true, what if each person was hit with multiple rounds? You're assuming one hit per person. I'm just getting up to speed on the details so I'm not basing this on any news, just solely on your statement.

Originally posted by OOOOOO
I'm sure with all the brains around they could do some thing for mental health, and try and stop these nut jobs before they kill more people, it could be small mental health issues in some cases.

Actually almost every one of the young whack shooters had been under some kind of mental health 'treatment' before their acts of mega-violence. And you can bet that will be the case with this latest suspect.

What I want to know is why is it with these recent events every killer was armed with a bullet proof vest? I mean if you're just gonna kill yourself in the end (referring to mall incident), then why even bother? And of course, one is going to claim insanity afterwards, so if you want to say you're insane... then why would you have fear of death at that point, KNOWING the consequences.

Either people are VERY illogical, or something rash has really infected this global scheme.

Originally posted by hunterschild
reply to post by loveguy

 

I couldn't imagine that even if the principal and his mum where secretly together and Adam discovered it, that it would push Adam lanza to shoot primary school students.... maybe the principal but not little kids.

If the shooter was developmentally disabled, that could mean emotionally. The guy could be fine coping one minute, and not coping the next, depending on the severity of the situation.

I don't suspect he was coping very well when he pulled the trigger on his own Mother. He may not have even been himself.

Emotions are our greatest strength, and/or our greatest weakness. We love our heroes and hate our villains.

I hope to find the gene that causes violent behavior; and sever it from our genetic make-up. Until then, this is my plan of conduct; as best as I am able...

Originally posted by Transcendent
What I want to know is why is it with these recent events every killer was armed with a bullet proof vest? I mean if you're just gonna kill yourself in the end (referring to mall incident), then why even bother?

The mall shooter wasn't wearing a bullet proof vest, it was just an ammo vest. The police stated it was not armor.

Meanwhile, back at the shooting...

(Thanks to everyone who is posting politely and staying on topic)

reply to post by Transcendent

He was wearing a mask and "load-bearing" vest -- but not a bullet-proof one.

www.usatoday.com...

Police said today that Roberts had stolen the gun from someone he knew, and was equipped with a load bearing vest and "several" fully loaded magazines.

abcnews.go.com...

reply to post by EarthlingSpelunker


That makes no sense. I agree that we are about there, but the relevance to kids being killed and the second amendment argument is mind boggling. Could have been a ninja sword or a bomb.

Originally posted by DarthFazer
Another incident without a motive, this is the red flag. You see when a person goes to such preparation as he did, as James Holmes did, there has to be a motive and a goal. But here we have "just some nut that did it because ____ blah" media fills in the spaces with a contrived story. They did it with 911 instantly. Lunatics will almost always do something poorly constructed without a plan. This guy prepared a head of time for this, and now the timing with all these shootings. The SOB's want to disarm us and will sacrifice anyone to achieve the goal.

Your "Red Flag" got me thinking. Mods if this is the wrong place, feel free to deleate. What if these people were . . activated to go off shooting like this? Two shootings within a matter of days, both shooters roughly the same age 20's, both shooters shooting themselves. To me and this is just my opinion the shooting themselves just doesn't set right and makes me lean towards the programing, if your dead, there's no chance of something slipping out during questioning. I don't know, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but to me it looks and feels like something is subconciously programing people,

Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by Transcendent
www.cnn.com...
Perhaps she was dealing with one of the gunman on her off-time?

Why does an elementary school need a full-time shrink anyway? Probably just to hand out all the Paxil and Ritalin pills.

Actually, I personally believe it is very wise to have a school psychiatrist at such a young age. Through experience, and what my recently divorced sister is going through. Such a time is perfect to correct any issues that may arise.

Half he reason why we get "crazies" as demonstrated very horrifically and vividly in this event, is because of ignorance through parents and teachers. And part of that ignorance is because the child is conflicted with fear of consequences of sharing any problems, whether it be mental or emotional. I can tell you this first hand as I was a naughty little child when I was such an age as my parents were very strict and weren't the emotionally loving type (they were the type that just spoiled you with "objects" and expect you to be good), so naturally I would misbehave, so I would refuse to relay my problems to them out of fear and anger. So I spoke to the school counsel as well as my sisters at the time. Still do...

America NEEDS more educated psychiatrists embedded in schools, just as they would with a workplace, and ENFORCE it, a checkup a week would help relieve stress and emotional confusion. If this would happen, half the events these past days would probably have been avoided.

Originally posted by Transcendent
What I want to know is why is it with these recent events every killer was armed with a bullet proof vest? I mean if you're just gonna kill yourself in the end (referring to mall incident), then why even bother? And of course, one is going to claim insanity afterwards, so if you want to say you're insane... then why would you have fear of death at that point, KNOWING the consequences.

Either people are VERY illogical, or something rash has really infected this global scheme.

edit on 14-12-2012 by Transcendent because: corrected grammar

Its quite simple- The want to end their lives on their own terms. Wearing a vest would decrease your chances of being mortally wounded and allow you the time to quickly take your own life with one quick shot. I am sure they dont want the potentially end up paralyzed and alive and have to actually face up to what they have done-

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by Transcendent
What I want to know is why is it with these recent events every killer was armed with a bullet proof vest? I mean if you're just gonna kill yourself in the end (referring to mall incident), then why even bother?

The mall shooter wasn't wearing a bullet proof vest, it was just an ammo vest. The police stated it was not armor.

Ah I apologize, misinformation on my part then.

Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by Transcendent
www.cnn.com...
Perhaps she was dealing with one of the gunman on her off-time?

Why does an elementary school need a full-time shrink anyway? Probably just to hand out all the Paxil and Ritalin pills.

No it's for the same reason they have a social worker.. to look for abuse cases.