It's time my story needs to be heard

Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time. There's a big study made to those people going to those sanctuary and being cured from no where, it was found that the % of people cured out of no where that went to pray in the miracle sanctuarys is the same to those who just sit at home.

Originally posted by Apleness
Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time. There's a big study made to those people going to those sanctuary and being cured from no where, it was found that the % of people cured out of no where that went to pray in the miracle sanctuarys is the same to those who just sit at home.

edit on 15-7-2012 by Apleness because: (no reason given)

Are you implying that most tumors normally go into remission? Because I am afraid that is not the case, unfortunately.

More specifically, I believe such a general statement has little to do with this discussion, which is about a very particular case, of which we do not know any of the specifics.

I for one take the writer's word that it was an unusual case if remission. Tumors are complex and while I accept your point that some do naturally go into remission, it does not mean we should therefore conclude his story is of recovery is "nothing special".

Your post is the reason I applied for membership to the ATS Planet. I've been a cyber gypsy for many years, and have never felt the desire to plant my feet in very many places. I'm paranoid, I think; or maybe I just don't like to be confined to borders with rules of any kind, I don't know. Anyway, I just thought I should put that out there before I respond to this thread.

(Warning: This will take more than one post to respond-so you may want to sit down for this one)

I have a question or two for you first and then I'm going to elaborate on them
1. Do you have Native American blood?
2. Have you ever heard of a Night Hag?
3. In your many religious followings have you ever had what is often referred to an "awakening" experience?

I know those are all odd questions, but there is a reason why I'm asking you these things. Let me say this, I am not a professional of the mind, but I have read a lot about a lot of things, have always been wise beyond my years-thus I feel like I am an old soul, very intuitive to people-almost psychic-yet I am not-nor do I claim to be; and I have experienced much of what you describe here. This is some scary stuff you speak of, and I know, because I can relate to it all too well. I too have often wondered if I haven't been visited by aliens. I have awoken many times with the feeling of not being able to move, yet I have watched doors close and things being moved, and being fully aware of the fact that I am asleep-yet knowing that I am awake. That is one of the scariest feelings of all-it feels like something is sitting on my chest-holding me down.

I was an only child, my parents were divorced-my mother was very spiritual, but a devout Christian too, and my Army Veteran father has always been a new age kind of man. I lived primarily with my mother and we often discussed other worlds and aliens, dreams in detail, and out of body experiences. She had a massive heart-attack and died at the age of 49, and she was perfectly healthy. I questioned my Southern Baptist upbringing from a very early age, so I got out of that when I was fifteen years old because I felt like I was being limited to my own personal thinking-like I was being brainwashed. That never made my mother happy, but it was my choice, and though she argued it, she allowed me my freedom. When she died my Christian friends chastised me for not taking that as a sign, and I told them, and still do, that if I am supposed to believe it, then I have no doubt that my mother, who truly was an "Angelic" lady would lead me into that direction. She has been gone for fourteen years now-this month, in fact. I went on about my life and have accomplished an experienced a lot since then, but after she died, I was not the same-I became very cynical and have more or less pushed everyone away, hence I am a very private person, and though I have very radical views and am not afraid to scream them I rarely speak of my internal feelings. I might add, that I was 5 months pregnant with my only child when she died-I was the exact same age she was when she gave birth to me: I have never aligned my child with Christianity, though he knows plenty about a lot of things-we have a very open relationship-same as my mother and I did. But since her death, I have only dreamed of her three times but never a sign did come. When my son was a baby and my husband-at the time-was working 3rd shift, I was awakened by the sound of a loud pop-then frequency-then static, it was the sound a capacitor makes when it turns on an old tv. I sat straight up in bed, and I did not feel like I was alone. I thought my husband was home, at first, so I listened really closely, and sure enough, the tv down the hallway and in the living room was on, and it was very loud: It was around 3am, and my husband was not at home. I went and turned it off and went back to bed and fell directly back to sleep. The next day I started thinking about conversations that my mother and I had had, and I recalled a story she told me about how she had napped on the couch one Saturday afternoon with the tv off, and how she had an out of body experience where she got up and walked over to the television and turned it on and could see her body still lying on the couch, then she walked back and laid down again. She said that when she woke up that the tv was on, and that she felt very tired, like it had taken all of the energy out of her. That is how I've always felt after an episode of "sleep paralysis". The striking thing is, is there is always a knowing that something bad is going on in the room, and I feel the need to wake up to get out of the nightmare, but can't. After this particular incident fourteen years ago, I honestly haven't thought much about what used to happen to me or what she had told me, until recently. But recently these things have been happening to me again, like within the last month, primarily, the last week; and it is unsettling.

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Originally posted by Haknow

Originally posted by Apleness
Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time. There's a big study made to those people going to those sanctuary and being cured from no where, it was found that the % of people cured out of no where that went to pray in the miracle sanctuarys is the same to those who just sit at home.

edit on 15-7-2012 by Apleness because: (no reason given)

Are you implying that most tumors normally go into remission? Because I am afraid that is not the case, unfortunately.

More specifically, I believe such a general statement has little to do with this discussion, which is about a very particular case, of which we do not know any of the specifics.

I for one take the writer's word that it was an unusual case if remission. Tumors are complex and while I accept your point that some do naturally go into remission, it does not mean we should therefore conclude his story is of recovery is "nothing special".

Its not normal but its more common than people think.

Interesting story, sir. I appreciate the depth and detail. I, too, have experienced a similar event, in regards to the being standing in your room upon your being awakened, seemingly enveloped in a self emitting blue light. I was about 15-16. If you would like to hear the story, message me and I will be more than happy to describe the experience in the same amount of detail as you have presented here.
Thanks!

reply to post by Bachrk


I think you posted this response in the wrong thread actually. There was another active, popular thread going where somebody else was discussing her unfortunate diagnosis with MS.

Your advice and kind words are still welcome and hopefully will reach a few others reading this thread (even if it is off-topic.) I don't think it needs to be removed mods. Kinds words never need to be removed.

reply to post by CthulhuMythos


I agree, it was very strange. And I hope the same as you do that we can just accept each other unconditionally. It's both of our faults--but it will require effort from both of us to change our relationship. (I've tried!)

reply to post by Beaux


Excellent analysis of every step in the sleep paralysis episode! I have experienced all of these as well. I believe the internal muscle-movement you speak of is not actually muscle movement from the physical body, but movement from the subtle, astral body. (But that's just taking a wild guess on my part.) Likewise, anything we do in the astral plane does not translate into the physical..which is why the physical ashtray was never moved.

If I try really hard to move, I move..I can see my hands or legs (even though the physical limbs are not moving at all!) I believe this is not just a tricky hallucination but the astral body with which we experience things like OOBEs.

Sleep paralysis can be very frightening, but it is definitely not unnatural. With so many people experiencing it at least once in their lifetime--this makes me think it might be a natural mechanism for some purpose we don't quite understand yet. Enjoy the show!

Originally posted by truthbringerX
reply to post by NarcolepticBuddha

 

i my self have had 5 different dreams were there is a entity standing in my doorway no features just a figure of a person it has happened 5 times through out my life starting at 5 again at 8 then 12 and again at 18 then the last one was 3 days after my 21st birthday.i am now 22.any insight? after reading your long but amazing post

i think maybe a shadow person but i dont know.

I'm sorry that I have no insight to give you. Believe me, I wish I did for your sake and mine. The only thing I can offer is that I have begun to see some of these beings in dreams as well...I mean long, long after the fact. For example, I saw the Hooded Entity and Gray Men about 10 years ago. When I saw them, I was not dreaming nor in the paralysis state.

However, I'd say within the last couple of years on and off..I have seen some of them in normal dreams. I don't want to belittle your dreams experiences because I am no expert in dreams, but I tend to dismiss them as just my own fears finding expression in the dream. But as I have said, these were already internalized symbols and images for me.

For you--I don't know what to say. It is intriguing that you only see them in dreams. It may indeed be a shadow person and there is plenty of info on them here at ATS. I cannot accept that mine were shadow people because they had colors, textures, and depth.

reply to post by Apleness


Triggering a hallucination in a laboratory environment to replicate a subjective experience--please tell me what this proves? It is my belief that they are only bringing about a symptom. Does it explain the cause? To my satisfaction, no.

I have not once ever said that sleep paralysis was a special gift for a select few. I simply state that there is more about ourselves to be learned than applying electrical stimulation to the brain.

I am not going to create a debate about it. Videos have been posted explaining the scientific studies on sleep paralysis. You're welcome to provide links or videos that state your case.

reply to post by sonam


Use the private message U2U provided by ATS. You're not the first person to ask questions or tell a story that they did not feel comfortable posting in my thread. I will read it and answer it.

Originally posted by NarcolepticBuddha
reply to post by Apleness

 

Triggering a hallucination in a laboratory environment to replicate a subjective experience--please tell me what this proves? It is my belief that they are only bringing about a symptom. Does it explain the cause? To my satisfaction, no.

I have not once ever said that sleep paralysis was a special gift for a select few. I simply state that there is more about ourselves to be learned than applying electrical stimulation to the brain.

I am not going to create a debate about it. Videos have been posted explaining the scientific studies on sleep paralysis. You're welcome to provide links or videos that state your case.

edit on 15-7-2012 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)

The cause is well known.. Its clearly written on the texts books even on wikipedia explains a part of it.

reply to post by Haknow


I am glad to hear you have defeated that ugly disease. I myself had a grapefruit sized tumor in my abdomen literally squeezing my kidneys, liver, and duodenum to death. I had a small tumor on my liver (and later, my kidney as well.) I also had about 20 golf ball sized tumors on the surface of both of my lungs.

I really don't know how I made it It was very close though.

I cannot say why any of these visions or health issues occurred. But the end product as I view today makes it all worth it. I have become a strong character by digging myself out of the muck. I have developed fulfilling relationships with my parents where none existed before.

I have even began a spiritual commitment in my life that brings happiness and fulfillment, whereas before I was a miserable, unhappy, and incomplete of a person as an atheist. (I am not correlating these moods and feelings with atheism--but only describing my personal state of mind at the time.)

Perhaps these visions and complications were just to spur me on in a better direction. It was worth it--even if it took 10 years to see it this way.

Originally posted by Apleness
Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time.

Tell that to the overwhelmingly large percentage of people that are dying from cancer..make sure you tell their families and friends too.

Over the last month I have been having very disturbing dreams, and two nights ago I experienced the first "sleep paralysis" episode I have had since I was in my early twenties. Back then I had episodes all the time, it was a regular phenomenon for me, and I often had them during the day when I was napping between work shifts, but I was always alone when I had them, meaning there were no roommates around, or parents, or whoever I was living with back then, and I had them in all of the places where I lived aside from the last fourteen years or so. I have always experienced very vivid dreams, and have always been intrigued by dreams. I completely believe that there is something to them, and have always felt that way. I recall once when I was nineteen, taking a nap when I'd gotten out of class that afternoon, and I distinctly remember-like it was yesterday-having sleep paralysis that day, but that time I felt like I was being raped-no, I know I was being raped (yes, I am a female), and when I woke up and couldn't move I could see the light coming through the windows of the bedroom-it was broad daylight outside, and I could see a spot of green paint on the ceiling and there were three black robed beings, one over me, and two behind it in a "V" formation. I couldn't speak, I couldn't move, I couldn't do anything. It was very disturbing and frightening. It was like they were floating over me, like apparitions with hoods over their faces-I couldn't see their faces, just little eyes, and they terrified me. I recall trying very very hard to get up, to move, to scream, anything that I could do, but I couldn't, and this went on for what felt like ten minutes, maybe longer, before I blacked out. I woke up four hours after I had initially laid down. I never told anyone, because people would think I was crazy, I knew that; and I was too embarrassed to tell my boyfriend, because even though he was very open minded, and quite the pervert, I felt like if I told him, he'd think I had been dreaming about someone else. After I woke up, I was drained, I felt like everything in me was gone, all of my energy, so I got up and took a shower, because I felt dirty. This scene went on for several weeks. I was young, I was always taking naps. I had a full load of school work, plus a job working in Food and Beverage, so I worked late nights and every day of the week-I was tired a lot. We partied a lot back then, we were typical Generation X rockers-we worked hard and we played hard-it was the height of the "Grunge Era". I didn't know what to make of it, and it finally stopped, but I was always fearful of that house after that. I hated it there, and not long after that, my boyfriend and I broke up for good. I always kept that to myself, and I have only told one other person before today, which is ironic, because now I'm telling millions; but it has never been something I have been proud of, and I thought people would think I was a lunatic. A few years later I finally confided in a very good girlfriend of mine who I always talked about politics and conspiracies, and things we just couldn't understand with-we covered everything under the sun from religion to UFOs and psychology. She was getting her nursing degree, so I felt like I could trust her, plus her neighbor was a professed Wiccan and they were really close, and I felt like it was something I had to tell somebody because I was still extremely troubled by it. She wasn't at all surprised. The first thing out of her mouth was "I believe it." Then she told me about the Night Hag. According to folklore, the Hag is a demonic being that comes in nightmares and causes sleep paralysis in it's victims, and rape is said to be pretty normal according to those who claimed they had been visited by the Hag. I researched it at the library at the University I was attending, and she was right, and everything that I had experienced was outlined right there in front of me in black and white text. I couldn't believe it. It made something that was already sinister, worse. Well, since two nights ago, after I had the new episode of sleep paralysis after all of these years, I have been fearful of having it all start up again. For many many years, really since my son was very little, I have suffered from Insomnia-this has been a constant for me. So this is new, again. I hope that's not too much information on that subject-I know it's odd.

Here is a link on the Night Hag and Sleep Paralysis. Of course it's Wiki, but still, it'll get you where you want if you're interested enough. There is mention of Alien abduction associated with SP as well. It's all tied in together as far as I'm concerned.

en.wikipedia.org...

Then watch this documentary from History Channel. Very interesting tying demons and aliens together-there are a lot of correlations between the two.

video.google.com...

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Originally posted by Haknow

Originally posted by Apleness
Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time. There's a big study made to those people going to those sanctuary and being cured from no where, it was found that the % of people cured out of no where that went to pray in the miracle sanctuarys is the same to those who just sit at home.

edit on 15-7-2012 by Apleness because: (no reason given)

Are you implying that most tumors normally go into remission? Because I am afraid that is not the case, unfortunately.

More specifically, I believe such a general statement has little to do with this discussion, which is about a very particular case, of which we do not know any of the specifics.

I for one take the writer's word that it was an unusual case if remission. Tumors are complex and while I accept your point that some do naturally go into remission, it does not mean we should therefore conclude his story is of recovery is "nothing special".

No, no, no--the treatment of the cancer itself was not unusual. The medical treatments were effective. What was tough was how advanced my cancer was--how much of my body it had already destroyed and invaded at the time of my diagnosis. The attending ER doctor literally told me I was days, if not hours, from dying by the time they found me out. That is what I'm excited about. The treatments were no miracle, but just smart medicine.

Perhaps the most miraculous part of my ordeal was when I experienced the internal bleeding after a biopsy. We have the before picture where the doctors inform my mom that I'm not going to make it and that they've done all they can do--then the after picture where the bleeding spontaneously stops and I wake up with no apparent (bleeding) complications. That may not seem amazing to anybody else--but it was plenty amazing to me.

reply to post by Haknow


By the way--I'd like to personally welcome you to ATS. I am honored that a couple of people have decided to come out of the woodwork and sign up based on my thread alone.

reply to post by LBElectric


Welcome to ATS! I'm glad you signed up. I am about to run out of the house for a bit, and I will definitely be catching up on your posts when I get back.

Thanks for planting your feet in ATS. I think you're going to enjoy the show and as well as taking part in it.

reply to post by NarcolepticBuddha


Thanks NB! Damn M.S. lol

Mods please remove my previous story on this thread which I posted this morning. I had too many ATS windows open at once and replied here which was meant to be on another thread. So embarrassing ha! Sorry for the trouble!!

Originally posted by NarcolepticBuddha

Originally posted by Apleness
Tumors entering in remission its not an abnormal thing.. It happens all the time.

Tell that to the overwhelmingly large percentage of people that are dying from cancer..make sure you tell their families and friends too.

Reading too much into the words ? Like I said above, its not normal but happens more times than people think.