Alien Types...?

I think, it is not sensible to discuss what materials would those UFOs transport to their home planet... Everything that can be found here, can be found anywhere else, too. The distance is vast, and there are so many planets where the aliens can mine without being disturbed by animals or humans. Our Earth is not unique, we should get to know that...

Originally posted by Yasuhiko23
Plasma IS used in neon signs. the little tube light things u would normally see in a bar or, an Open sign.

I stand corrected on that point, a bit since I had partially right, since they seem to change the state of neon to plasma in neon signs. Though to call it a material in itself is wrong imo.

[edit on 11/10/04 by NaturalManiac]

Originally posted by Indigo_Child

Those who embrace high technology in the Universe and who have manned, interstellar flight capability (i.e., the Space Races) are all self-serving and malevolent.

Logically, the only relatively friendly humanoid worlds out there are those that embrace medieval technology and strive to live by The Golden Rule. The ones that are worth pursuing are not so far down the path of Mind and Technology so as to find The Golden Rule valueless.

The path of Mind and Technology is a trap because eventually those on it believe that Science is their God.

This is a very sweeping statement, can you be so sure that benevolent races in the universe are not technologically advanced?

Absolutely. In order to become technologically advanced, one usually downplays spiritual development. Our own society currently reflects this downward trend of morality. Despite greater awareness, people as a whole on this planet are much less spiritually principled now than the 1950s. Technology greatly increasing since that time played a key role in the erosion of society and spiritual values in general.

Rarely do you hear about geniuses being known for their selflessness. What they are known for is their intellect, not their devotion to spirituality and The Golden Rule. Of course, once in a great while you will come across a person who is the exception to the rule, but these individuals go against the thrust of the scientific community.

The intellectual personality that is not tempered with pursuits of selfless service becomes corrupted. Which goes along the lines of absolute power corrupts absolutely among those who are not spiritually principled.

If there were truly an exception to this psychological principle demonstrated locally, then we would not have thousands of reports of hostile kidnappings by highly intellectual, godless, aliens.

I've read somewhere that the good aliens "the pleiadians, the andromedan or the cosmic confedaration" they don't really transport themselves in a "spaceship" they materialise in our atmosphere, because THEY don't have the notion of space and time just like in the other higher dimensions and planes. The concept of dimension is pretty hard to understand but that is often the answer to the big questions. In higher dimensions there is no time or space....that is only in 3D. We are in the damn 3D dimension and that suck because we can only observe solid!!!!!!
Think about it!

Ameliaxxxxxxxxx

� You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it.) The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to "walk" between bubbles by use of - as you would call it - quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind. ...

Reality Blows, you have no proof, yet you ask for answers, I have a very good understanding of Physics and Human Psychology, how do I know I am good at this, because I study people, and manipulation is the name of the game, controlling the masseses is easy, controlling the intellectuals is even easier, let them manipulate themselves.

Masses are harder to manipulate because they do not ask for definite proof.

Intelectuals are easier because you can use their own skills against them. Its that easy, I don't claim not to have been manipulated with but I have seen the outcome.

You would have thought it would be the opposite.

That is,of course, Cosmic String Theory is correct. Otherwise there may not be conditions for multiple dimensions/universes to exist. (Or at least the capability to travel between them.)

Originally posted by Der Kapitan
That is,of course, Cosmic String Theory is correct. Otherwise there may not be conditions for multiple dimensions/universes to exist. (Or at least the capability to travel between them.)

Did you hear about the "football shaped" Universe? It is already proven, you go out at one side, you come back on the other one...

No, to be honest, I have not heard of that one. Do the multiple universes in that theory join end to end? Are they "free-floaters" and you would need to locate another universe's "end" to get in?

Originally posted by FoxStriker
Masses are harder to manipulate because they do not ask for definite proof.

Intelectuals are easier because you can use their own skills against them. Its that easy, I don't claim not to have been manipulated with but I have seen the outcome.

You would have thought it would be the opposite.

You are wrong about that... masses are easy to manipulate, intellectuals are harder. Personally, I couldn't turn the skills of intellectuals against them, I'd rather turn their intensions against them, if I had to. That works on most people, and it doesn't require you to be an intellectual.

PS: If you do everything to manipulate people, why do you expect others not to manipulate you? Usually those are frustrated about this, who are doing it frequently with others.

[edit on 13-10-2004 by Vertu]

Originally posted by Vertu
� You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it.) The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to "walk" between bubbles by use of - as you would call it - quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind. ...

Hey...now YOU understand what I'm trying to tell everyone on ATS...HOW can you explain something so complicated...I use simple words but does'nt seem to work

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Originally posted by Amelia
Hey...now YOU understand what I'm trying to tell everyone on ATS...HOW can you explain something so complicated...I use simple words but does'nt seem to work

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don't tell me, that you really understand it, because I don't... Do you know anything about the mass flow between those "bubbles"? You know... those halting alien crafts to leap through...?

No...I don't KNOW! I'm not GOD...But I know that there is other realms and vibratories that can change from solid to etheral...I've read a lot about this...

Since the Masters and Angels have the ability to transmute energy into any form they choose, they do, on occasion, transmute energy into what looks like space ships (or flying saucers). They do this ONLY because you, the Light Servers, are still caught up in the "illusion" of physicality and still require physical forms in order to feel more comfortable. However, once you have raised your vibration to that of the Fifth Dimension you will quickly discover that these "illusions" are no longer appropriate, nor are they necessary.

According to the theosophic tradition, the astral world or astral light comprises several spheres of increasingly ethereal, more plastic matter surrounding and interpenetrating the physical earth. It is the ethereal blueprint from which the physical earth derives, and corresponds to the astral body of each individual. Its lower reaches are not especially elevated as they lie only one vibratory range up from the gross matter of the physical world, but its higher reaches merge into the akashic or spiritual realms.

Ameliaxxxxxx

I'm not picking on you at all. But it's one thing to change states in matter, but it is entirely another thing altogether to "jump" from one universe to another, especially when said unverses will likely have a completely different laws governing each ones own physics. This is why "visitations" are more likely from within our own dimension/universe. The way you decribe their arrival may indicate their ability to "teleport" through space, now that's a neat trick! No foolin. It may also give us a clue that they can move at hyper-reletivistic speed- meaning they move so fast as to appear to fade/blink in and out of our field of view.

Strange, my post posted twice. I have removed the insideous doppelganger!

[edit on 13-10-2004 by Der Kapitan]

Originally posted by Amelia
No...I don't KNOW! I'm not GOD...But I know that there is other realms and vibratories that can change from solid to etheral...I've read a lot about this...
Ameliaxxxxxx

� Imagine for yourself that all the matter does not really exist, but that it is rather only the result of a field oscillation and a concentration of energy. All matter that you see, every creature, every planet and star in this universe, has an "information-energy equivalent" in the sphere of influence which is located on a main field--the general level [of things].

Well, kinda...but we have a soul that comes from other realms, U are a soul into a physical form (solid) same for plants or animals, they have a soul too, but of a different kind.

Ameliaxxxxx

By the way, I don't feel attacked by your comments on my posts. Feel free to comments even if you think I'm not right hehehe

Originally posted by Amelia
Well, kinda...but we have a soul that comes from other realms, U are a soul into a physical form (solid) same for plants or animals, they have a soul too, but of a different kind.

Ameliaxxxxx

By the way, I don't feel attacked by your comments on my posts. Feel free to comments even if you think I'm not right hehehe

� Existence is always a duality. Some layers of the field contain simple information about the solid matter of your body and its frequency, while other layers [contain information about] your spirit, your consciousness or, speaking>from a human-religious point of view, your soul. Awareness or consciousness in this case is a simple energy matrix, divided into different layers of your field in the sphere of influence--nothing more, nothing less. Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post-plasma [the fifth form of matter]. With the necessary physical knowledge and the corresponding technology, the consciousness/awareness matrix, or soul, can also be separated from its field of rest. It can, despite its removal, continue to exist in a self-sufficient manner for a certain amount of time. That has the strange occult name of "soul robbing.

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by FoxStriker
Masses are harder to manipulate because they do not ask for definite proof.

Intellectuals are easier because you can use their own skills against them. Its that easy, I don't claim not to have been manipulated with but I have seen the outcome.

You would have thought it would be the opposite.

You are wrong about that... masses are easy to manipulate, intellectuals are harder. Personally, I couldn't turn the skills of intellectuals against them, I'd rather turn their intensions against them, if I had to. That works on most people, and it doesn't require you to be an intellectual.

Right on Vertu.

This is evidenced by the fact that whenever a communist or fascist regime (which are both totalitarian forms of government -- the extreme left and the extreme right respectively) takes over, one of the first things they do is line up all the intellectuals in the country and shoot them.

It is also not so easy to turn the intentions of intellectuals against them. In essence, what we are talking about is intellectual manipulation against intellectuals. That is very difficult to accomplish.

One of the first things that Adolph Hitler did when he came to power was to have all the intellectuals that opposed him politically hunted down and killed. The remaining, ignorant masses under the Nazis were far easier to manipulate, program and control.





[edit on 13-10-2004 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Amelia
I've read somewhere that the good aliens "the pleiadians, the andromedan or the cosmic confederation" they don't really transport themselves in a "spaceship" they materialize in our atmosphere, because THEY don't have the notion of space and time just like in the other higher dimensions and planes. The concept of dimension is pretty hard to understand but that is often the answer to the big questions. In higher dimensions there is no time or space....that is only in 3D. We are in the damn 3D dimension and that suck because we can only observe solid!!!!!!
Think about it!

I agree that on the higher dimensions there is much more freedom than there is down here. But I don't think that Grey spacecraft or any other alien physical ships are teleporting around the cosmos.

Here is my logical argument to support this hypothesis:

Firstly, the infamous �Men in Black� who are alien in nature or at least Hybrids (the original definition of MIBs), tend to show up at alien crash sites in order to confiscate any significant evidence of extraterrestrial existence. If the MIBs had teleportation technology, why do they have to come down and physically confiscate the alien artifacts?

Secondly, many well-known people have publicly exposed the nefarious activities of the Zetan-aliens. People like Budd Hopkins, (Ret.) US Army Sgt. Clifford Stone, and Dr. David M. Jacobs to name a few. Additionally, there are many lesser known Ufologists and researchers, like myself, who also strive to expose the Zetan agenda of subtle subjugation. None of the Ufologists and researchers that I have come across ever claimed to have been teleported onto an alien spacecraft.

So maybe the aliens can teleport their spacecraft but not individual bodies?

I don't buy it.

What they can and often do is cloak their ships with a strong Electromagnetic (EM) field which provides them with optical invisibility. This often makes their craft appear to have teleported in or away. The US Navy first started experimenting with this stealth technology back in the 1940s with the infamous Philadelphia Experiment. The Grey-aliens and others have simply mastered the stealth field technology to a high degree and in a way which doesn't damage the occupants physically or psychologically.

As far as the Pleaidians are concerned, I have come to the conclusion that they are indeed alien but not in the flesh. In other words, the benevolent aliens out there who reportedly materialize at will are actually not in bodies at all but are essentially spirits or discarnates. Large collectives of spirits or Group Entities, local and alien, love to channel to mystics who witness a physical Zetan spacecraft in operation � and then deceptively claim that they are the aliens inside the craft and are communicating with them telepathically.

Sound familiar?

The pertaining contactees are the same mystics who are never able to produce a photograph of the aliens they communicate with but always have an abundance of channeled illustrations of them; sketches and paintings that often show a yellow energy around the aliens -- the characteristic Dominant Aura Color of Group Entities in the Mid Realms of Spirit.






[edit on 13-10-2004 by Paul_Richard]