Alien Types...?

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
I side with the view that the Greys work under the Reptilians and Preying Mantis/Insectian types and that all are deceptive, self-serving and subtly imperialistic.

No doubt, that the Greys are far more primitive creatures than the Reptilians, but why would they need to serve the Reptilians?! Only slaver human beings could think this way. All aliens here do their own job, and the weak species usually respect the advanced species... that's all.

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
I side with the view that the Greys work under the Reptilians and Preying Mantis/Insectian types and that all are deceptive, self-serving and subtly imperialistic.

No doubt, that the Greys are far more primitive creatures than the Reptilians, but why would they need to serve the Reptilians?! All aliens here do their own job, and the weak species usually respect the advanced species... that's all.

I'm not sure what you mean by the Greys being "far more primitive than the Reptilians." The Greys utilize interstellar spacecraft and also high-tech medical equipment that is reported by abductees.

All humanoid races that are within the grip of the Zetans and who do not have the technology or magick to defend themselves, are subject to the same exploitation that we endure. In the empire, the Greys are simply on a higher caste rank than are Homo sapiens. But all ultimately serve the Reptilians. Why? Probably because the Anunnaki-Reptilians have been venturing in space and exploiting worlds for hundreds of thousands of years.

However, the point should also be made that the Zetans are hardly our spiritual masters. Unless of course, you think that Science is God.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
I'm not sure what you mean by the Greys being "far more primitive than the Reptilians." The Greys utilize interstellar spacecraft and also high-tech medical equipment that is reported by abductees.

It is a primitive activity that alien species are contacting humans who have few thousand yrs past, and the aliens are starting up business with the humans. The Greys don't need to do that for living, they are doing it for hostile reasons and are only capable to solve their problem in such primitive manner. This clearly shows what species are we really dealing with. Their full reason is yet unknown, and part of it is considered top secret.

The abductees weren't possibly ever taken anywhere, advanced crafts seen inside, and underground laboratories seen by them doesn't mean that they were really there. Simple mind scan will do, done with a flying-by alien craft... it is that easy. The question is : why would the aliens show anybody their secret bases, and let them go without killing them? If they did that, they would become a potential target for humans. Do aliens really want that?!

Of course the Grey's are the ones talked about the most because most abductee's are taken by them and they are afraid and tested which I understand completely.
You all know if you seen one Grey you seen them all as the saying goes. The Grey's are a weak and dying species they are trying to save themselves and the only way they can do this is by creating a new species with part of them and us in these new life forms. The best way to describe the working Grey's would be what we might be able to consider as clones, they needed to create these beings because there time is running short. These clone type beings are totally focused on the work that has to be done. Time for us and for them has different meanings.
The Grey's do many things we don't like but this is just the way life is you should know life isn't what we were all brought up to believe.
The Grey's are not doing anything that humans aren't doing think about it.

Originally posted by observe50
Of course the Grey's are the ones talked about the most because most abductee's are taken by them and they are afraid and tested which I understand completely.
You all know if you seen one Grey you seen them all as the saying goes. The Grey's are a weak and dying species they are trying to save themselves and the only way they can do this is by creating a new species with part of them and us in these new life forms. The best way to describe the working Grey's would be what we might be able to consider as clones, they needed to create these beings because there time is running short. These clone type beings are totally focused on the work that has to be done. Time for us and for them has different meanings.
The Grey's do many things we don't like but this is just the way life is you should know life isn't what we were all brought up to believe.
The Grey's are not doing anything that humans aren't doing think about it.

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Originally posted by Paul_Richard
I'm not sure what you mean by the Greys being "far more primitive than the Reptilians." The Greys utilize interstellar spacecraft and also high-tech medical equipment that is reported by abductees.

Originally posted by Vertu
It is a primitive activity that alien species are contacting humans who have few thousand yrs past, and the aliens are starting up business with the humans. The Greys don't need to do that for living, they are doing it for hostile reasons and are only capable to solve their problem in such primitive manner. This clearly shows what species are we really dealing with. Their full reason is yet unknown, and part of it is considered top secret.

Okay...I'll agree with you that the Greys don't really need us but prefer to just exploit us and our resources. But if they are serving under the Reptilians in an empire, it still doesn't make the latter out to be any better or more advanced in the spiritual sense.

Originally posted by Vertu
The abductees weren't possibly ever taken anywhere, advanced crafts seen inside, and underground laboratories seen by them doesn't mean that they were really there. Simple mind scan will do, done with a flying-by alien craft... it is that easy. The question is : why would the aliens show anybody their secret bases, and let them go without killing them? If they did that, they would become a potential target for humans. Do aliens really want that?!

The testimony of former governmental insiders stated that there is governmental collusion with the aliens and that part of the initial agreement was to not interfere with Grey-alien abductions.

As far as why the Greys let their abducted prisoners go (usually but not all the time -- as some are kept for medical experimentation, some for dissection, etc.), there are a number of reasons:

1. The abductees are tagged with psychological implants to make them easier to control.

2. The abductees are part of a long-term breeding program.

3. Letting the abductees go means being able to kidnap them in the future and use them whenever they wish. As opposed to the option of feeding and housing them at the empire's expense. Put the cows to pasture.

It is to the advantage of the Greys to release prisoners into the general population that they have psychologically manipulated with "screen implants" (memory brainwashing) and physical implants in order to be submissive to Zetan domination.

Abducting, brainwashing, and then releasing many people over a period of many years fits right in with the Zetan agenda of subtle subjugation. Why kill perfectly good breeding stock? Why destroy people who you can program to serve the empire? A butcher does not slaughter livestock indiscriminately. He keeps them penned up and then kills them when desired. This planet is one big farm to the Zetans and we and the animals are the livestock. They prefer to harvest instead of destroy -- but will destroy whenever necessary.

... and why would the aliens leave the live stock to remember where they were, what they done to him/her, and who were they? Exposing themselves to threat? They may be smart, but they can be harmed by humans because they are living creatures.

There is only one explanation for this: whatever the abductees remember, is not true.

Originally posted by observe50
Of course the Grey's are the ones talked about the most because most abductee's are taken by them and they are afraid and tested which I understand completely.
You all know if you seen one Grey you seen them all as the saying goes. The Grey's are a weak and dying species they are trying to save themselves and the only way they can do this is by creating a new species with part of them and us in these new life forms. The best way to describe the working Grey's would be what we might be able to consider as clones, they needed to create these beings because there time is running short. These clone type beings are totally focused on the work that has to be done. Time for us and for them has different meanings.
The Grey's do many things we don't like but this is just the way life is you should know life isn't what we were all brought up to believe.

I agree that the most common alien reported by abductees are the Greys.

However, the Greys are not a dying species. That notion is the product of Zetan propaganda. They are not here to save themselves. They are here to exploit us and our planet as part of an empire.

Originally posted by observe50
The Grey's are not doing anything that humans aren't doing think about it.

I can't speak for everyone in this forum but I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of us don't kidnap intelligent beings and use them for slavery, breeding, medical experimentation, dissection, and to use their glandular extracts as vitamin supplements!

A high-tech humanoid species' spiritual retardation is not a good rationale for following in their twisted footsteps toward eventual self-destruction.



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Originally posted by Vertu
... and why would the aliens leave the live stock to remember where they were, what they done to him/her, and who were they? Exposing themselves to threat? They may be smart, but they can be harmed by humans because they are living creatures.

Abductees generally don't remember what happened to them...until the nightmares start.

Originally posted by Vertu
There is only one explanation for this: whatever the abductees remember, is not true.

Most abductees do not remember what happened to them until years later. This only indicates that Zetan brainwashing is not 100% effective.

Which is to our advantage.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Most abductees do not remember what happened to them until years later. This only indicates that Zetan brainwashing is not 100% effective.

Which is to our advantage.

I agree with that... no technology is that perfect. But at this point, why don't they kill those abductees to prevent exposure? This should be the right job for their protection...

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Most abductees do not remember what happened to them until years later. This only indicates that Zetan brainwashing is not 100% effective.

Which is to our advantage.

I agree with that... no technology is that perfect. But at this point, why don't they kill those abductees to prevent exposure? This should be the right job for their protection...

That's a good question.

They generally don't kill abductees because they wish to use them for long-term breeding programs (over generations even -- see Dr. Jacobs' research) and because they wish to slowly brainwash millions of people into siding with their domination. Better to deceive, manipulate and control than to destroy.



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Yes, but let's assume that the brain-washingmachine is not that perfect, and the aliens don't want to kill the livestock... what is the logical thing to do? Wash it out once more!! It is a great rule among aliens, to keep their presence secret. Especially their equipment, or hiding place. Can you imagine, that an abductee tells everything to the Gov't, the next day military is destroying their cavern? Well, it could happen after such failure.

Paul Richard, how do you know all this? I dont remember reading all these posts but I think you said you were some researcher or psychoanalysist? Are you getting your info from other researchers or an insider?

great posts by the way.

[edit on 15-10-2004 by kyateLaBoca]

Originally posted by Vertu
Yes, but let's assume that the brain-washingmachine is not that perfect, and the aliens don't want to kill the livestock... what is the logical thing to do? Wash it out once more!! It is a great rule among aliens, to keep their presence secret. Especially their equipment, or hiding place. Can you imagine, that an abductee tells everything to the Gov't, the next day military is destroying their cavern? Well, it could happen after such failure.

According to (Ret.) US Army Sgt. Clifford Stone, there are "probably twelve or fewer" alien bases around the planet. The feds already know about these.

Secondly, since there are covert facets of the government that are in collusion with the Greys, then telling the government about aliens is a moot point and a useless pursuit.

Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
Paul Richard, how do you know all this? I dont remember reading all these posts but I think you said you were some researcher or psychoanalysist? Are you getting your info from other researchers or an insider?

As is stated in my ATS profile, I have researched this area of life for many years and have counseled both abductees and victims of discarnate demonic attack. My guidelines for avoiding alien abduction are in part derived from my own experience of almost being paralyzed and abducted a couple of times.

My vantage point is a unique one of not only being a Ufologist but also a spiritual medium. There are people on the other side who want those in the flesh to see the Zetan-alien situation clearly. Not all the awareness channeled about aliens promotes a mythical and benign Galactic Confederation -- which is a deception.

I occasionally obtain insight from my Guides which I then seek to corroborate and try to use helpful links in my posts to confirm what I state.

One could say that I was born to do this as I seem to have an intuitive understanding on this issue because I extensively studied it in the Spirit before entering this life.

Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
great posts by the way.

Thank you.

Interesting site. I'm going to go off topic here, but I saw in your page there is a link to the philadelphia experiment. Did that really happen? I've been bashing al blielik and duncan cameron as frauds. I dont know if the experiment was real deal or not.

Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
Interesting site. I'm going to go off topic here, but I saw in your page there is a link to the philadelphia experiment. Did that really happen? I've been bashing al blielik and duncan cameron as frauds. I dont know if the experiment was real deal or not.

Actually it is a valid subtopic.

There is disinformation surrounding the Philadelphia Experiment in order to discredit it. All the talk about time travel and teleportation should be ignored.

All that really needs to be understood is that the government and the Zetan-aliens to a larger extent have cloaking technology and that when UFOs appear to fade away in a glow of light, they are not teleporting away or traveling interdimensionally. What they are actually doing is activating a strong electromagnetic field around the manned ship or probe in order to manifest radar stealth and optical invisibility.



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Yea I figured Al Blielik(I'm not going to spell his name correctly becuase I have no respect for him) was full of it. His site is still up trying to make an DIShonest dollar off us.

But if invisibility was achieved, why dont they use that now where they need it the most...IRAQ, AFGANISTAN

O.k...interesting!
But, I'm not a professional here..at all, I've just done many researches for a long time (even if I'm still young), so I understand that the greys are just a specie dying because they can't reproduce and they use humans to get hybrid specie to keep the specie alive. They made an agreement with the govs that in ecahnge of technology, they caould abduct some people (humans) and cattle. And the reptilians-draco, are undercover in the caverns, controlling trough the elite, power with blue blood (that is annunaki-ancient god) and the greys are a part of their plan. They want to enslave us, they want to keep us from our mission on earth and enlightment. They kinda are the fallen angels, the snakes in a metaphore way...And with the earth change coming, war and everything, they are taking over and we, societies, follow their rules...

Does it makes sens or too much profond...
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One does not need to know the other Space Races in order to see the spiritual indifference of the intellectual mindset.

So, let me get this correct: You think, because the other(benevolent) races have not appeared/intervened, then it must mean they are not advanced enough for space travel? That makes sense.

You are implying that you believe yourself to be spiritual. If that be the case, then you are the exception to the rule and not representative of the vast majority of scientists.

I suppose these great scientists are also exceptions to the rule?

Newton
Nicole Tesla
Albert Einstein
Erwin Schrodinger
Dr David Bohm

As well hundreds of contemporary quantum physicists that are bridging the gap between science and spirituality.

In other words, you are clearly wrong, and should not be ashamed to admit it. This proves that science can lead to spirituality. If it can in the case of me and these other greats, why can't it with people from other parts of the universe?

True, but you do have to value The Golden Rule. The Zetan races do not, as is indicated by the thousands of reports from abductees.

What is this "golden rule" If the Zetans do not, then does that mean other's don't?

It is very unwise to make the assumption that a high tech civilization is STO oriented, only to be conquered by same after making contact.

Says who? You. I am not going to use Nancy's Zetatalk. Benevolent does not have to mean service-to-others Logic dictates, that if some A's are B's, then not all A's are B's; If some hi-tech civilizations are hostile, then it does not mean all hi-tech civilizations are hostile. Your thinking is now veering towards fanaticism.

That can be used to support my argument as well. However, there is much more testimonial evidence to support the notion of malevolent physical aliens tha there is of benevolent physical aliens.

There is testimonial evidence for the tooth fairy.

True. However, the vast majority of accounts are about self-serving aliens that treat many of us as laboratory animals. Additionally, the small number of accounts of benevolent encounters are generally from people who channel alien spirits, not from people who have had a benign encounter with physical aliens. Most people who first investigate this area of life often distort the distinction between a physical alien encounter and that of channeling alien spirits. With experience, one learns differently.

What is an alien spirit? A spirit is an infinitesimal point of light, with no name, no form and transcends space and time. The Pleadians claim to be physical life forms from another space time configuration. They do not claim to be "alien spirits"

It is proven that the Zetans are a hostile race from thousands of eyewitness testimonies from abductees and also from various governmental insiders like (Ret.) US Army Sgt. Clifford Stone who is part of Dr. Steven Greer's Disclosure Project. The Reptilians stem from Zeta IV, as do the Greys and the Insectians. If there are Reptilians elsewhere, which stands to reason, I am open to the possibility.

No, actually it is only "proven" that they abduct human beings for experiments, then they bring them back. That does not prove they are hostile. As you use the same terminology as Nancy from Zetatalk, she has a rather different explanation for the Zetan abductions.

I am being very spiritual by selflessly forwarding a sometimes unpopular understanding about Zetan-aliens. My selflessness and compassion for abductees and people in general has brought me here to state the truth as I see it. A number of people have indeed altered their views because of what I have stated in this and other forums.

What have you done lately to help abductees who are victimized by spiritually indifferent aliens?

Again, "Zetan aliens" so why drag the rest of the universe into your little personal war against them?

There is abundant testimonial evidence that the Zetan-aliens are hostile.

The above conclusion is markedly different than just claiming that there are no aliens out of bias -- or, for that matter, claiming that the aliens are benevolent when the testimonial evidence points to the contrary. Both opinions are formed out of prejudice, not out of objective analysis.

So you have formed it out of prejudice, not by being objective, and so it's a right thing to do? So much for being very spiritual

Again, where is this abundant testimonial evidence that the Zetan aliens are hostile? If they are, what does this have to do with aliens who are not. Your reasoning is based on sentiments and emotions, and you are backing this up with "spirituality" to make it righteous, which then turns into fanaticism. Thank god aliens are not here with us publically walking around, you would probably start up a jihad movement against them, with the "golden rule" as your charter

We'll continue this discussion when you start making sense.

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