Olympic Athlete Claims Blacks are superior to Whites

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
There's definately some gene that enables blacks to be better at sports and other athletic events.

If the sport isn't dominated by black people it's because they don't play it!

A radio personality here made the statement concerning soccer and why the USA can't dominate that sport, it's because our best athletes either play football or basketball.

Oh yeah. That’s right. It must be true because an American spouted his opinion. The only thing American sports commentators seem to grasp when talking about world sport is total arrogance and ignorance.

Football is a totally different sport to Basketball and American-Football. Basketball players are tall and wouldn't be as skilful with their feet as they are with their hands. Real Football players run four/five times more than American-Football players, requiring far more endurance and stamina.

The point about not competing can just be argued for other sports and other countries. The former Soviet union banned their amateur boxers competing professionally for decades. With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Saw a whole flood of Eastern Europeans go on to dominate the bigger weight divisions within the sport. The end result is that Americans have less world boxing champions, and American promoters have less power, and less ability to keep hold of those alphabet champions. The sport of boxing has been changed forever and has grown tenfold within Europe.

When will people ever learn?

reply to post by Debunkology

Oh yeah. That’s right. It must be true because an American spouted his opinion. The only thing American sports commentators seem to grasp when talking about world sport is total arrogance and ignorance.

Just for the record, he is not merely a commentator, he is also the WR holder for several race distances, and a 14 time Gold Medal winner, and the only man to ever win the Gold Medal in both the 200m and 400m in the same competition.

As for the arrogance of Americans when it comes to the world's favorite sport of Futbol, maybe you are right. I know some pansy-ass Americans that try to pretend they love watching it, because it brings them closer to the world, but I just can't sit for hours and watch people run back and forth over and over again and fail to score any points, and half the time end in a tie. Sorry, maybe it is American arrogance, or maybe it is a short attention span, or maybe Soccer just sucks?

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Many of the top bodybuilders are black. Ronnie Coleman, arguably the greatest body builder ever, is black. Lee Haney, Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, the list goes on.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by jrmcleod

 

I'm a human, your a human, he is a human and she is a human...why is it even worth discussing that your skin colour determines how athletic you are? Its pointless.

Why is it pointless? Obviously we are all different. No two humans are alike. Why is it pointless to discuss our differences? We should openly discuss our differences, and we should learn to use people's natural strengths and weaknesses instead of pretending they don't exist. Political Correctness has set us back a long way. Honesty is the best policy.

I'm all for discussing our differences but when we relate those differences to the colour of our bl**dy skin, its ridiculous.

They would be better saying something like "Those with "such and such" a genome or gene are better at sports", not, "Blacks are better"...that statement in itself just perpetuates the rift in races...

you'd be fast to if you had to run from Lions, hyenias, and other predators in Africa over the eons!!.........im just saying.........

before folks get started, I'm an American who's racially diversified....

reply to post by getreadyalready


It was fun, but I feel a certain responsibility to enlighten you on this subject.

It was once thought that Scots, Icelandic, and to a slightly lesser extent, nordic people had the best fast twitch muscle fibers of any races in the world. Sprinting remained something that those nationalities were terrible at though. Which lead to the idea that perhaps blacks had superior fast twitch muscle fibers. After further study one trait was observed on all great runners, regardless of skin color. An abnormally large achilles tendon. It literally puts just a bit more spring in each stride. Generally black people do have a larger achilles tendon than other races, but not always. That is what makes a black person generally a better runner. Not genetic disposition for superior fast twitch muscle fiber, which they do not have.

A lot has changed since you were in highschool.

reply to post by jrmcleod

I'm all for discussing our differences but when we relate those differences to the colour of our bl**dy skin, its ridiculous.

They would be better saying something like "Those with "such and such" a genome or gene are better at sports", not, "Blacks are better"...that statement in itself just perpetuates the rift in races...

But why? We don't all have access to genomes of our friends and neighbors and classmates, but we can obviously see if someone is black or white or jewish or hispanic.

This is the political correct programming coming out, but it isn't very logical. If someone robbed you, and the police asked for a description, would you say they had the such and such genome for heighth, and the such and such genome for family heritage, and the such and such genome for eye color? Of course not, you would just describe what you see.

There is nothing wrong with calling a black person black, or a white person white, or a chinese person chinese. (Although, if you call a Japanese or Korean person Chinese, you will get an earful, might be better off to just say "Asian." )

reply to post by Evolutionsend

An abnormally large achilles tendon. It literally puts just a bit more spring in each stride. Generally black people do have a larger achilles tendon than other races, but not always. That is what makes a black person generally a better runner. Not genetic disposition for superior fast twitch muscle fiber, which they do not have.

Actually, that was the rumor when I was in high school, but I thought it was proven to be an urban legend? People used to always say that black people had an extra large achille's tendon and hamstring, or sometimes they would even say that black people had an extra muscle in their leg, but I've never seen any scientific study to back that up.

BUT, on the issue of fast-twitch, it isn't just sprinting, it is overall speed in every movement. Fast hands, quick change of direction, explosive vertical leap, etc. Blacks and Hispanics dominate boxing, not Nordic people. Because they have fast hands, and quick reflexes. You don't have to have a large achille's tendon to be a good boxer, but you do have to have superior fast-twitch muscles.

Sure, there may be some Viking gene that gives those powerlifters you like some enormous strength, but it could be a mental thing as well. I mentioned earlier that one of the most important aspects of "strength" is muscle-fiber recruitment. If a person has a natural ability to recruit more than the typical 7-20% of muscle fiber, then they will be much stronger than there counterparts. That is purely a mental aspect. In my experience, some of the strongest people I've ever known were simply not smart enough to know any better. If it needed lifted, they just lifted it. I had an uncle that way, and I have a good friend that way now. They were both white, slow, no athletic ability, but as strong as a damn ox, and it was purely mental.

ETA:
Looking for any support for your claim of a larger achille's tendon or extra muscle, and I found absolutely none, although I did find that a couple of tendons that extend the pinky toe are sometimes missing in people, and there are a couple of forearm muscles that are sometimes missing? Weird, but anyway, no support for your theory that I could find, but I did read a funny little anecdote someone wrote as a reply on a board....

I was playing basketball at a local park one time in HS, and talking with some black friends of mine...I've always been a good jumper (for a white guy, as they would say), and one time I asked them why they thought that, as a rule, black people are better leapers than white people...one of them said ,"well how did you get here today?"

me-"i drove that car"
him-"see that bicycle? thats how i got here. When you were a kid, how did you get across town for baseball practice?"
me-"mom gave me a ride"
him-"I rode my bike there too...everywhere I've gone, my whole life, I've walked or rode a bike, you have ridden or driven a car...and you wonder why I am a better jumper than you?"

Source

Is it possible...that this has been done on PURPOSE? Think about it. White people, generally have better training facilities than blacks/latinos; yet are still are unable to perform at a higher level than them? How is that possible? See, fact of the matter is...athletics is the only way, for the majority of blacks to get out of the GHETTO (so they think); therefore, their mentalities are completely different. Take away the nice parks, gymnasiums, and coaches that white athletes are given; and throw in some burned down buildings, drugs, and cops....and you'd be damn fast, also! Even more so, knowing you could win a Superbowl, end up in the hall of fame and be the poster child for Nike!

Are black people known for their brains...or how fast they can run; how high they can jump? Black people are nothing but slaves for TPTB. Not sure why they believe otherwise. You think Lebron is making LOTS of money??? Not as much $$$$ as the owner of the Miami Heat. FEEL ME?

There's a difference between being "rich" and being "wealthy". Learn the difference....all star "athletes".

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Just for the record, he is not merely a commentator, he is also the WR holder for several race distances, and a 14 time Gold Medal winner, and the only man to ever win the Gold Medal in both the 200m and 400m in the same competition.

As for the arrogance of Americans when it comes to the world's favorite sport of Futbol, maybe you are right. I know some pansy-ass Americans that try to pretend they love watching it, because it brings them closer to the world, but I just can't sit for hours and watch people run back and forth over and over again and fail to score any points, and half the time end in a tie. Sorry, maybe it is American arrogance, or maybe it is a short attention span, or maybe Soccer just sucks?

You know just as much about football as that guy you heard on the radio. Since you say that you cannot stand to watch teams play each other and fail to score any points. But the chances of a scoreless draw in football is 8%. Which means that a whopping 92% of games consist of a team scoring points.

A guy being able to run fast in the 200m and 400m doesn't make the idea of Basketball players and American Football players automatically being good soccer players sound less moronic. I'm guessing you heard Michael Johnson, the guy who 12 international gold medals?

And your right. Fútbol (Don't know why you use the spanish spelling of football), is the worlds favorite sport, and definetely not it's bastard offspring which the spanish call "fútbol americano", which is not even a world sport, rather a domestic sport. Hey! Americans would be good at soccer too.......maybe the best in the world............ if they only played themselves and no one else at that also.

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I just don't enjoy it, and I've tried, but it is boring.

If our best athletes did not go to other sports, they would definitely dominate soccer. No doubt about it.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Dreine

 

We are told to 'celebrate' diversity, yet every time someone brings up this subject, it is taboo... why is that?

Well, to play devil's advocate. If it is ok to say black people are more athletic, then it should be ok to say Jews are better with money and asians are better at math, etc. People get all weirded out when we make over-generalizations, but it is still stupid. Generalizations are just that. General. Meaning there are obvious exceptions to the generalization. Statistics show one thing, but that doesn't mean every individual will fit the mold. There are fat black people and stupid asians and jews that are frivolous with money, they just aren't the norm. In fact, there are probably smart, fat, black people that are good with money, and there are probably athletic jews..... well, maybe not.

Sandy Koufax. But seriously you are also hinting at stereotypes. What makes these jokes funny delivered by stand-up comedians is that there is SOME level of truth to them. As you point out not every Asian is probably good at math, but you wouldn't hear a joke about Ukranian people being good at math. It wouldn't be funny. And I am also not suggesting that this type of humor is everyone's cup of tea, just recognizing that stereotypes are the source of a great deal of stand-up comedy.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
If our best athletes did not go to other sports, they would definitely dominate soccer. No doubt about it.

L-O-L. The rest of the world would doubt that very much.

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Sandy Koufax!

Nice find!

Originally posted by Debunkology

Originally posted by getreadyalready
If our best athletes did not go to other sports, they would definitely dominate soccer. No doubt about it.

L-O-L. The rest of the world would doubt that very much.

If soccer ever gets popular in the US, then maybe we'll find out. For the record, one would think soccer would be popular in the urban areas, just like it is in other impoverished areas. All you need is a ball, and a couple of guys. I'm actually surprised it hasn't taken off more here among the minority populations.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
If soccer ever gets popular in the US, then maybe we'll find out. For the record, one would think soccer would be popular in the urban areas, just like it is in other impoverished areas. All you need is a ball, and a couple of guys. I'm actually surprised it hasn't taken off more here among the minority populations.

I'm not doubting the US would have a good team if soccer was the main sport in America, even just one of the major 4. But fact of the matter, they'd only be ONE of many. That's the difference with soccer. No country has ever dominated. Because it's a pastime of many nations.

Since this thread was about ethnicity. Just to throw it out there. Racism did exist within soccer in Europe in the 1970s and 1980s towards how good black players really were, with sayings like "black players lack stamina" or "lack bottle" . Obviously this isn't the same today.

The way Europe and US view sports through ethnicity is different. Very different. Mainly because we play different sports. In soccer you get white players that are faster than black players all the time. Some of the fastest players in the English Premier League are white (which is the fastest league in the world football). You only have to look at Gareth Bale (white player, and one of the fastest in the EPL) take apart Maicon (black player) in at youtube.

The guy who won the gold medal at the last European Championships was a white guy.



Go tell him that them black athletes he beat are "superior" to him.

reply to post by Debunkology


That is FAST! Especially for a white guy.

But, right here in my home town a black college student beat that time handily!

9.90 100m for Florida State's Ngonidzashe Makusha.

A high school kid here in Florida ran the 100m in 10.01s! That is a high school kid beating your Euro champ!
Jeffrey Demps

And here is a typical Youtube video of a track meet, where a Sophomore in High School runs a 10.3, and you might notice all the competitors are black.

Black people are just faster. Not all of them, but MOST of them.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Debunkology

 

That is FAST! Especially for a white guy.

But, right here in my home town a black college student beat that time handily!

9.90 100m for Florida State's Ngonidzashe Makusha.

It's not the fastest he's ran. He ran 9.92 here.

1: American blacks are mixed race hybrids.
2: Brain case size is irrelevant since the percentage used determines the standard, for those who actually rely on this.