Olympic Athlete Claims Blacks are superior to Whites

reply to post by Debunkology


You are making it more difficult than it has to be. Go watch a track meet. What percentage of the winners are black, and what percentage are white. Compare that to the percentage of overall population. There is an significant difference.

Jeremy Wariner winning gold at the world championships. (400m)

reply to post by Debunkology


There were 2 white competitors in that field. Sure, one of the white guys won, but the sport is still dominated by black people. Nobody ever said there were not exceptions. There are some fast white guys, but there are a lot more fast black guys.

Michael Phelps is the bets swimmer in the history of people swimming. Out of anyone that's ever tried to swim EVER, he's the best.

Some people are naturally designed to do things better than other people, to say one "race" is the msot dominant because of where they are is the most ignorant statement you could make on the matter.

####, Bruce Genner used to be one of the worlds best runners....last time I checked he was pretty white.

Playing the race card is the fastest way to get your name back into the spotlight....looks like it's working for this blowhard.

reply to post by getreadyalready

Hunter’s previous research indicates that ethnic groups such as African-Americans tend to have longer limbs and shorter calf muscles and thus longer Achilles tendons than Caucasians, which may be a contributing factor to why some African-Americans seem to excel in sports involving running.

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CONCLUSIONS: These data support the premise that longer lower limb tendons (especially Achilles tendon) and less flexible lower limb joints are associated with improved running economy.

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Black runners use their muscle fibers more affectively than a white runner, and are therefore faster.

Oh, about boxing. If fast twitch muscle fibers made boxers good, then the best boxer would be benching more than Scot Mendelson. He also wouldn't have much in the way of punching power after the first few minutes.

I bet Scot Mendelson would do well at boxing though. I mean, Scot Grabs head, Scot removes head, Scot wins match. Hey, maybe someone should get him into boxing?

I think it's fairly obvious that different races and groups of people have certain things that they are better or worse at. I have no problem with some black guy saying that blacks are more athletic in general than whites or other races.

What I do have a problem with, is that if blacks agree with the concept that different racial groups have different strengths and weaknesses, then they cannot complain and cry racism when another race claims superiority over them in a particular field.

If a white guy says "whites are smarter than blacks" all the black people would freak out, say how awful and racist that white guy is. Yet they think it's OK for a black guy to say "blacks are more athletic than whites" What's the difference?

You can't support the idea of racial groups having different strengths and weaknesses ONLY when such a concept is used to apply a superior trait to your own race. You have to accept that other races are superior to you in other ways, if you propose that your race is superior in one specific way.

Which we all know will never happen. Blacks, even when they claim THEY are superior in an athletic aspect, will never allow any other race to claim superiority in any other aspect. That's called hypocrisy, and it has a long history in the area of race relations.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
There were 2 white competitors in that field. Sure, one of the white guys won, but the sport is still dominated by black people. Nobody ever said there were not exceptions. There are some fast white guys, but there are a lot more fast black guys.

You said before............

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Could be:
1. More fast-twitch muscle fiber
2. Extra, or bigger muscle in the achille's tendon, hamstring area
3. Earlier physical maturation.

Could be all 3!!!

So if this was the case, and if blacks getting to the final of that race was the norm, and one white guy wins by a clear margin.

How exactly do you explain THAT anomoly?

Originally posted by James1982
I have no problem with some black guy saying that blacks are more athletic in general than whites or other races.

You can pull out a video on youtube, with most of the finalists in the 100m sprint race being black. You can also pull out a video on youtube, with most of the finalists in the swimming comps being white.... a sport that uses up more muscles than any other sport. To be "athletic" is to be a whole range of factors, not one or two particular areas.

reply to post by Debunkology


Yeah... and? The term "athletic" is quite vague, and I used it intentionally. I'm not sure what issue you took with my post. Are you saying that you DON'T think black people have a genetic advantage in ANY sport? Like I said I'm not sure what you are getting at.

reply to post by Evolutionsend

Oh, about boxing. If fast twitch muscle fibers made boxers good, then the best boxer would be benching more than Scot Mendelson. He also wouldn't have much in the way of punching power after the first few minutes.

I bet Scot Mendelson would do well at boxing though. I mean, Scot Grabs head, Scot removes head, Scot wins match. Hey, maybe someone should get him into boxing?

Overall strength is about a lot more than just muscle size and makeup. It is mostly about muscle recruitment. All of us have the opportunity to be about 5 times stronger than we think we are, because our brains randomly fire about 20% or less of our available muscle fibers. They do this to limit joint damage and leverage and maximize resources of glucose and creatine in the muscle fiber and potassium and calcium in the blood that fuel the nerve processes. The super human strength shown sometimes is a result of fight or flight overriding the normal random firing. Old grandmas are stronger than young bodybuilders when they fire 100% of their fibers, but they also risk grave injury.

Powerlifters don't need high amounts of fast-twitch fiber, they just need the mental capacity, or lack of capacity to convince their minds to recruit more fibers. Powerlifting is as much a mental game as it is a physical one, perhaps even moreso.

I don't think Mendelson would be a good boxer, but he might be a good UFC guy! He reminds me of Bas Ruten. That is my UFC hero!

reply to post by Debunkology

How exactly do you explain THAT anomoly?

You already described it. An anomaly, in other words, something outside the norm, in other words, black athletes are the norm, and the white one is an anomaly. Perhaps he isn't all white?

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Hess88

 

So what? I think he is correct. It is fairly obvious that black people are generally more athletic than white people. Faster twitch muscles, more muscle tone, less bodyfat retention. They are also more prone to certain health problems like sickle-cell anemia and diabetes.

This is the problem with racial debates. To admit differences is to be racist. Why? We are obviously different.

yep, and whites are better wrestlers, swimmers, creators of classical music etc

reply to post by blueorder

yep, and whites are better wrestlers, swimmers, creators of classical music etc

For now, I think that is exactly correct, but I think the swimmers and classical music preference is largely due to exposure and opportunity, while the wrestling thing is something else altogether, and discussing my ideas on why whites might dominate wrestling would get dicey. I will say that I have two black friends that are Olympic Judo and Roman-Greco competitors (one is a medalist), so black people can be competitive in the sport, but I'll also say I think I can kick both their asses (in a fight, not on the mat), and it has nothing to do with skill or muscle makeup, it is a mindset of winning at all costs.

reply to post by getreadyalready
You all are killing me. So are you saying Christophe Lemaitre is mixed? And not "100% white". Where are you getting all this from. The last time I checked, Lemaitre is a white guy. His mother is white. His father is white.

I DO NOT think Lemaitre is an anomaly. He is just a fast white guy who WORKS hard and is serious about his sport.

Again, if you put your mind to it and don't let outside distractions get to you, and also if you develop a culture around succeeding, anything, anything is possible.

It has happened for Lemaitre.

It has happened for Ivet Lalova. BTW, both her parents were successful sprinters.

It has happened for Jeremy Wariner.

It has happened for Sally Pearson...and on and on.

Have you all heard of the "Blade Runner" Oscar Pistorius? Well he is a double amputee who regularly competes internationally against 400m runners, and he is quite good at it.

There are many white athletes who are just as fast as black athletes but many of them have other avenues to succeed in life and they turn to whatever it is that floats their boats. The black athlete usually would gravitate to track or in many cases, football.

Have you heard about the Klitschko brothers? No heavyweight boxer (blacks included) have succeeded in beating these brothers for many, many years? Are these folks anomalies? What separates them from everyone else? Care to explain that to me?

I am sorry. I am not buying this race is better than this other race because of genetics or whatever. Unless you can show me unsubstantiated proof, it would just be educated guesses or hypothesis. Everyone has a boatload of these.

And for the person who posted all the times and how it is much better than the nearest white guy's time, please understand that the Jamaicans, Usain Bolt included, have a extremely rich track and field history that goes back decades. They do not take track and field lightly and most of their youngsters are afforded the opportunity to participate and excel in track. They are VERY serious about track. Nothing like the Americans who usually have other options to fall back to other than TnF.

So, yes, I expect the Jamaicans to do very well and have better times than anyone else. And this is from their hard work, diet, dedication and hunger to succeed in this sport.

reply to post by Jaellma


I didn't say he was mixed, but folks were talking about a specific genome earlier, so perhaps he has something mixed way in his ancestry, and the genome has been passed down? Or perhaps he is just an anomaly. Nothing is 100%, but statistically there are more black athletes than white, so the white elite athletes are anomalies.

The "blade runner" has been disqualified, because science has shown that his carbon fiber "cheetah legs" are actually more efficient than human legs. He is fast because science has made him fast. I'm working on a pair for myself that will strap on and make me fast too! Then, I'm hoping to hide them in a pair of hightops and make a fat redneck run and jump like a young black college athlete, LOL!

reply to post by getreadyalready
Who knows? Notice I said the "100%" in quotes, so I know there is no such thing as 100% white. Anyway,we are not going anywhere with this discussion. BTW, I am surprised Michael Johnson came out with these outrageous statements because his protege is Jeremy Wariner, the same white man who was on pace to break Johnson's record in the 400m before debilitating knee injuries.

If we are going to point fingers at Lemaitre as having a special genome, then maybe we need to do the same for Wariner or Sally Pearson or the Klitscho brothers or whomever. It would never stop. The bottom line, for me, is that if you give a certain group of people the opportunity and they gravitate towards that acctivity and make it a cultural norm, then they will exceed results outside what other folks would normally do. That is evident.

reply to post by Jaellma


There will surely never be a clear answer to this question, because there is not going to be 100% domination of any sport by any particular race, so we are just left with opinions and observations, and generalities.

BUT, as for the Klitschko brothers.....

Tyson would have killed them! Mike is the CHAMP and always will be!

I knew a fighter that accidentally bumped into Tyson at a club in New Orleans, and he turned around ready to fight, and he said the look in Tyson's eyes was enough to make him apologize and step aside. Tyson could knock people out with just a mean look!

reply to post by MmmPie


The world's best all round swimmers are not American but Australian. Phelps has been beaten by our Aussie swimmers many times however Phelps has always been a serious contender and I quite like the guy watching him closely at the Olympics.

stand by, Jim Thorpe is rolling in his grave,
eminent earthquake to follow

OP? didnt The Greek get canned for making this claim years ago?

reply to post by getreadyalready


If powerlifting were a simple matter of mental inability as you claim, Kaz wouldn't calmly roll frying pans into a ball while giving lectures to children. At 58 years old, without breaking a sweat mind you. Sounds like you are refusing to give credit where it is due.

90% of African Americans have white blood in them. Just sayin'