Olympic Athlete Claims Blacks are superior to Whites

Originally posted by Cavalier
“Since the dawn of history the negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet. Yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light. His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled. A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour. In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud. With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”— Charles Darwin

“I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa.There is something that all White men who have lived here like I have must learn and know: that these individualsare a sub-race. They have neither the mental or emotionalabilities to equate or share equally with White men in any
functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try tobring unto them the advantages which our civilization mustoffer, but I have become well aware that we must retainthis status: White the superior, and they the inferior. Forwhenever a White man seeks to live among them as their
equals, they will destroy and devour him, and they willdestroy all his work. And so for any existing relationshipor any benefit to this people, let White men, from anywherein the world, who would come to help Africa, remember thatyou must maintain this status: you the master and they the
inferior, like children whom you would help or teach. Neverfraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as yoursocial equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.”...Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr Albert Schweitzer

And thousands of years of history between Asias, Europeans, and Africans tend to disagree with the notion of Africans being superior. Not only are they not superior, but they are a drain on a progressive society, according to our ancestors and most scientist.

edit on 3-7-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)

And there are people who actually believe this. Only because to them, history goes back only a few thousand years. They ignore or are unaware that history truly goes back 100's of thousands of years if not millions! Yes...do a little research on out of place artifacts found in places they shouldn't be.

Do research that artifacts, Afrikan to be exact, are found and destroyed in American cities to this day! Proof that there were Afrikan settlements in America thousands of years ago.

Hint: Not every black person in America was brought over here as a slave! It's just what we've been TAUGHT in mainstream academia. There were already black settlements here and they were destroyed and burnt and the black people assimilated into the black slaves!

All this to say, that this world goes in cycles. The Afrika you are aware of maybe primitive to you and others like yourself. That's only a thousand years of history, but Afrika is millions of years old! There have been great empires there, they conquered this planet LONG ago and fell from grace.

The world goes in cycles and right now it is the time of the white man. Eventually that cycle will pass and it will be the time of another man. And thousands of years in the future when all the white man has built has crumbled and been forgotten and they have returned to caveman stature, it will probably be written...something similar to what your authors wrote, implying white people are and have always been inferior.

Originally posted by Scope and a Beam
The amount of Daily Mail readers in this thread is disturbing. It's also been taken out of context by the Mail (surprise). He's making a documentary about the best black runners being ancestors of slavery.

Plenty of racism in this thread too. I'm starting to feel like ATS is being taken over by behind-closed-doors-racists.

You're are just now noticing that? It has been going on for awhile and escalated drastically since Obama has been in office. This used to be a place where that didn't fly because a senior member would jump on it with some intelligence, but that does not really happen anymore. So now we have whole threads just based with awkward rascist undertones. Honestly made me stop reading any thread that can be hijacked by bigots because its likely it will be.

It's not racist to admit that certain people have certain attributes. The definition of racism in my opinion is when people insult others due to racial differences. If there is no insult involved, it's not racism.

Black people have better rhythm too. Seriously, I'm a bass player, and I'd sell my testicles to have rhythm like some of those Jazz or Reggae musicians. It works both ways, though. Whites might not have the rhythm, but have a better sense of melody (classical music).

reply to post by Nola213


The sports you list, it's not that blacks aren't good at them, it's that we have no interest in them. If baseball replaced football as our love we would dominate that. Same for tennis, hockey, swimming, what ever. The best swimmers I have seen are those black people in the carribean. Reason being, they actually spend time doing it!

If black NFL running backs, instead of focusing on football, spent their lives focusing on soccer, we would dominate that too! Imagine Chris Johnson or Michael Vick on a soccer field? What little white or asian guy is going to get in their way?

I said to my GF "I bet the other female gymnasts freaked when they saw a black competitor." Blacks have so much talent and composure, it must be racial. I can see why some whites are threatened by them. BTW, I'm a white guy.

So I guess we can all agree, there really is truth in stereotypes.

Originally posted by DZAG Wright

Originally posted by Cavalier
“Since the dawn of history the negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet. Yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light. His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled. A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour. In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud. With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”— Charles Darwin

“I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa.There is something that all White men who have lived here like I have must learn and know: that these individualsare a sub-race. They have neither the mental or emotionalabilities to equate or share equally with White men in any
functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try tobring unto them the advantages which our civilization mustoffer, but I have become well aware that we must retainthis status: White the superior, and they the inferior. Forwhenever a White man seeks to live among them as their
equals, they will destroy and devour him, and they willdestroy all his work. And so for any existing relationshipor any benefit to this people, let White men, from anywherein the world, who would come to help Africa, remember thatyou must maintain this status: you the master and they the
inferior, like children whom you would help or teach. Neverfraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as yoursocial equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.”...Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr Albert Schweitzer

And thousands of years of history between Asias, Europeans, and Africans tend to disagree with the notion of Africans being superior. Not only are they not superior, but they are a drain on a progressive society, according to our ancestors and most scientist.

edit on 3-7-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)

And there are people who actually believe this. Only because to them, history goes back only a few thousand years. They ignore or are unaware that history truly goes back 100's of thousands of years if not millions! Yes...do a little research on out of place artifacts found in places they shouldn't be.

Do research that artifacts, Afrikan to be exact, are found and destroyed in American cities to this day! Proof that there were Afrikan settlements in America thousands of years ago.

Hint: Not every black person in America was brought over here as a slave! It's just what we've been TAUGHT in mainstream academia. There were already black settlements here and they were destroyed and burnt and the black people assimilated into the black slaves!

All this to say, that this world goes in cycles. The Afrika you are aware of maybe primitive to you and others like yourself. That's only a thousand years of history, but Afrika is millions of years old! There have been great empires there, they conquered this planet LONG ago and fell from grace.

The world goes in cycles and right now it is the time of the white man. Eventually that cycle will pass and it will be the time of another man. And thousands of years in the future when all the white man has built has crumbled and been forgotten and they have returned to caveman stature, it will probably be written...something similar to what your authors wrote, implying white people are and have always been inferior.

I agree. Those cycles are pretty fast too!

Look at Atlanta, Detroit, etc.. when they were mostly white.

Now look at them. It is obviously the time of the blacks.

I've never seen a black guy yet who can swim worth damn.
Superior my ass . How many black swimming medal winners can anybody name ?
Erm .....none.
A black person would still be swimming while the winners flag was on it's way up the flagpole

African this, black that...what is an African? a 6 foot + Masai?, a 4 foot pygmy?, a 5 foot Bushman? a 6 foot Zulu?.

There are so many types of Africans, that you can not generalize who is a "black Person".
There are even a race of direct African descendants that live on an island near India.

My understanding is that most of the "Slaves" that were sent to the America's came from East Africa (the Horn?). And were traded by stronger African tribes, to the white man.
Of course many 1000s of years prior to that, the Egyptians had "African" slaves, the Greeks, Romans, Persians and probably other powerful tribes made slaves of conquered tribes, same as man in other areas.

The physical attributes of "Some" African peoples is that they have physically Long legs (yes all 3) compared to their body length, and often longer arms, this made for more efficient running to catch prey, and run away from predators, and long arms for fast climbing. Naturally this made them very fast runners and naturals for athletics.
In defference, my tribe related to the northern Europeans and Neanderthals, had short stocky legs and arms, and generally large chest, back and body muscles for strength...as there may not have been too many trees in the Ice Age Europe, and the prey may have been slower, strength was more important than climbing trees.
Hence Whiteys generally exceed in Strength sports weight lifting, Axe wielding etc etc.
Difference folks for different environments.

No doubt All Man nowadays are not as efficient as man of old, perhaps there was more oxygen around in the ancient times.
20,000 year old foot prints in an ancient mud lake bed, show a person in the Australian continent ran almost as fast as "the Bolt" but did it in mud!!! and without shoes, stocks etc.

www.smh.com.au...

Even todays fastest, are slow......

Originally posted by dawnprince
I've never seen a black guy yet who can swim worth damn.
Superior my ass . How many black swimming medal winners can anybody name ?
Erm .....none.
A black person would still be swimming while the winners flag was on it's way up the flagpole

edit on 4-7-2012 by dawnprince because: (no reason given)

Same with body building - not many blacks.

I'll say it again, they are a different subspecies of homo sapiens, that's what gives them their traits. Race, ( where you were born or where your ancestors were from) has very little to do with it because these traits are not bread out when they move to other countries as you would expect - even over many generations.

Blacks are naturally better at only some types of sports, not all. It's not the legs.. if it were the legs we would see blacks dominating at all sports that involve legs, like cycling. That is unheard of.

Superior is a false statement and very misleading. Someone said this guy has a special coming to the UK talking about this very subject.. Oh My God.. Epic Fail. You don't give a guy who has no clue what he's talking about a tv special.

reply to post by Hess88


Chuck Michael Johnson in a swimming pool with all the other top black swimmers and he will be in the pool himself

Using the same logic that's been stated, where we conclude that blacks are genetically predisposed to being better at physical activities since they are demonstrating athletic prowess in a lot of sports, we can then say whites are genetically predisposed to more acute thought activity.

Galileo. Einstein. Newton. da Vinci. Hawking.

That said: What this article is really about has 0, Zilch, Nada to do with race.

It is Nature vs. Nurture.

If a family nurtures academia, math, and science within its offspring, it is much less likely that a spawn of the family will throw a javelin very far.

If a family nurtures physical prowess and agility, it is much less likely that a spawn of the family will be able to recognize Higgs Boson when it happens.

A family with 10 generations of nurturing academia will have better odds at spawning an academic than a family who is in their first generation of nurturing academia.

And the same goes for athletics.

Neither is right, neither is wrong. To each their own. Humanity needs both.

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Same with body building - not many blacks.

Ron Coleman is a legendary black body builder that oddly enough is known for his overwhelming size, not his "bignasty" not even cut physic.

Powerlifting and strongman are the muscle sports that are dominated by whites. Whites from cold climates oddly enough. Powerlifting records are open for any person to break, but I've never seen a black person try. I've also not seen a black person in strongman, which if I recall was an issue at one point. I assume that in our politically correct society they are currently allowed to compete, yet I haven't seen one that could qualify.

Here's a thread about black strength athletes. There are less than none at least.

forum.bodybuilding.com...

Probably the most likely we didn't know how black people feel is that they don't teach the subject properly. ;-)

rmiglobal.org...

It is true really we don't really like to talk about it but that doesn't remove the validity of it. Alot of athletic achievement is decided by your genetics. Body size, shape and musculature play a great deal into how well any one person will be at various athletics. It is important to realize that as a species we we vary from region to region because it gave us advantages for those environments. Just because one is black doesn't make one a superior athlete, just they will have an advantage in certain athletics that favor one type of build over another. It isn't isolated to being black, asian or white it is a testament to the flexibility of our species as a whole.

Originally posted by dawnprince
I've never seen a black guy yet who can swim worth damn.
Superior my ass . How many black swimming medal winners can anybody name ?
Erm .....none.
A black person would still be swimming while the winners flag was on it's way up the flagpole

edit on 4-7-2012 by dawnprince because: (no reason given)

It's probably because their muscles are much pronounced and dense.
This heavier muscle will require more effort on the swimmers part to stay afloat.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


New squat record is a black guy.

Robert Wilkerson, 1000lb raw squat

So is the Benchpress record

Also, steroid and hormone abuse is rampant in powerlifting. That could be the reason white folks are able to compete with black folks. Steroids level the playing field between people genetically gifted and those pharmaceutically gifted.

Its pretty sad that this conversation even comes up to be honest.

I'm a human, your a human, he is a human and she is a human...why is it even worth discussing that your skin colour determines how athletic you are? Its pointless.

I will however humor this thread and say this:

If black people are better at sprinting then white people are obviously better at swimming, cycling, canoeing, rowing, tennis etc. Asians are better at cooking and martial arts, Eskimos are better at catching fish and living in an environmentally friendly manner, Indians are better at riding elephants and the Kiwis are better at Rugby...

What a STUPID topic for discussion...

reply to post by jrmcleod

I'm a human, your a human, he is a human and she is a human...why is it even worth discussing that your skin colour determines how athletic you are? Its pointless.

Why is it pointless? Obviously we are all different. No two humans are alike. Why is it pointless to discuss our differences? We should openly discuss our differences, and we should learn to use people's natural strengths and weaknesses instead of pretending they don't exist. Political Correctness has set us back a long way. Honesty is the best policy.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Also, steroid and hormone abuse is rampant in powerlifting. That could be the reason white folks are able to compete with black folks. Steroids level the playing field between people genetically gifted and those pharmaceutically gifted.

The powerlifters that used steroids in the 80s are all dead. The fact that Kaz is still alive and well at 58 is proof that he never "juiced". If anything, it's the other way around. Everyone knows that Ron Coleman is on enough 'roids to kill an ox.

Kaz squated 925 with no suit. He benched 662. Beating him by only about 75 pounds each, 30 years later, is pathetic. With modern training methods and ONLY suppliments, Kaz would best either man. He is a legend for a reason. Respected even by those that hate him.

The 1981 event was the same competition in which he totaled 1,100 kg (2,425 lb). His best lifts were: 925 lbs squat (done without a suit), 662 lbs bench press, and 974 lbs deadlift.

source

outright bench press records

This site claims Scot Mendelson holds the raw record at 715 (outdated obviously).

benching an awesome 766 in competition just a couple weeks ago.

source

Date of article on Mendelson benching 766 is 2012, your guy is 2011.