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Originally posted by Lord Jules
I clicked on this thread hoping, HOPING to hear something true, to broaden my horizons and expand my understanding of the middle east conflict. When I got to 'war in afghanistan-islam' i was sorely disappointed.
If that is the best you can do, a heavy brush stroke ignoring all evidence of false flag and mossad connections, then you have just converted another one to Islam-me. Was that your objective all along?
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
Islam is either the cause, supporter, or aggressor in at least 27 of them!!!
That is not true. There are countries which have internal conflicts as the consequence of either internal disruption or external disruption and their religion so happens to be muslim.
A lot of those countries you listed are being bombed by NATO. So who started the conflicts? It would not be a surprise if some civil war erupted, or was planned to weaken internal resistance to the NATO forces who want to bomb them.
NATO has a history of creating internal conflict prior to attacking a country in order to weaken it. Look at Libya for example.
Now lets take your examples one at a time
War in Afghanistan (2001-present)
NATO invaded and started the war dude. The citizens of Afghanistan so happen to be muslim.
Afghan Civil War
I suppose you are talking about this one: en.wikipedia.org...
That war had to do with foreign interference and internal conflicts. You know the American Civil war? Guess what religion they were? You have to see what they were fighting for, not their religion
The Arab Spring
Removal of an American supported (possibly installed) Dictator.
See as you keep going through them one by one, these conflicts have nothing to do with Islam as it has to do with internal politics and external interference.
I don't have time to go through them one by one but you get my point. Plus what was the predominant religion in Nazi Germany at the start of WW2? See what I mean. Do not let your bigotry and hate blind you.
Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by ollncasino
Shall we take the teachings of Fred Phelps to represent all of Christianity?
Maybe Torqemada?
Maybe we could quote selectively from the old testament?
The problem with cherry picking what individuals say, is that you infer those individuals speak for all.
Or in other words, if you quote extremists, you find extremism.
Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
reply to post by WorkingClassMan
I didn't mention East Timor because there is no conflict going on there atm, and I did mention the West Papua conflict.
Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
I was going to rip your head of so I'm glad you apologized...
Mohammed, Prophet of Islam is known as the "Apostle of Peace" by Muslims
Nothing can be further from the truth.
Mohammed was in fact a terrorist, criminal and murderer whose entire life was based on victimizing innocents and indulging in mindless violence, carnage and massacre. He was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought terror, carnage and death.
Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. - surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean "Peace"! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself. Source
Originally posted by neformore
Shall we take the teachings of Fred Phelps to represent all of Christianity?
Maybe Torqemada?
Originally posted by neformore
Maybe we could quote selectively from the old testament?
The problem with cherry picking what individuals say, is that you infer those individuals speak for all.
• 24% of the Medinan Koran
• 21% of the Hadith and
• 67% of the Sira.
Statistical Islam
Originally posted by neformore
Or in other words, if you quote extremists, you find extremism.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by ScatterBrain
You can find the same calls to violence in the christian bible (isn't it all about how one interprets this stuff?). There is no argument that there are people who will use religion to commit acts of violence.
Actually thats the jewish part of the book, the christian part is the New Testament and nowhere in the NT will Jesus advocate murdering people, he came to save us . Christianity derived from Judaism and split off into its own sect 2000 years ago.edit on 6-6-2012 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)
The war in afghanistan is still being fought against the Taliban, the Taliban are an extreme Islamic organization who have harboured terrorist forces used to attack the west.
I also see you stopped after a 3. Why not continue on, huh?
Do you see Christians detonating bombs in shopping centres?
Or stoning their women if they try to drive a car?
How many wars currently being fought today are using extremist Christian idealogy,
so far there is only one which is the Lords Resisitance Army, ONE. Islam is fighting 27....
Christopher Hitchens, author of God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything and co-author of Is Christianity Good for the World with Pastor Douglas Wilson, takes on religion in the US military in his latest article in Vanity Fair, for which is he a contributing writer. The lead-in to the article demonstrates a set of false assumptions which are never substantiated within the article: It’s no secret that conservative Christians dominate the US military
a borderline-hysterical address by…Hensley, chief of the United States’ military chaplains in Afghanistan. He was telling his evangelical audience, all of them wearing uniforms supplied by the taxpayer, that as followers of Jesus Christ they had a collective responsibility “to be witnesses for him.”