The Chemtrail Hoax

Originally posted by Pervius
If anyone has a hard time believing they are spraying toxins....

The B-2 sprays acid in it's exhaust so you can't see a contrail behind it.
The U-2 reconnaissance plane has antifreeze in it's jetfuel (JPTS) so it doesn't freeze at high altitude.

You breath in both of them daily. 2 verifiable poisons being sprayed into the atmosphere.

The B-2 stopped that, because it was so corrosive to the aircraft.

Lots of aircraft have antifreeze in the jet fuel, how do you know what results in poison out the back? Have you seen a trail that results from anti freeze additive?

Cars emit hazardous pollution too, a lot more than planes do, why does no one bring them up?

Originally posted by santjime
reply to post by weedwhacker

 

why do you say that it is false? couldnt you go up in a plane and get a sample for yourself with a group of scientist and test it that way as well???!

here is the webpage on ksla news website. . . not a hoax to me
www.ksla.com...

edit on 23-4-2011 by santjime because: (no reason given)

How? 68.8 parts per billion as in that report, is entirely normal

yep .. it's a total hoax.. but their spraying over my town right now and within 3 days it will be raining..

just like clockwork..

Originally posted by Komodo
yep .. it's a total hoax.. but their spraying over my town right now and within 3 days it will be raining..

just like clockwork..

Umm, hate to tell you this, but nothing released overhead, would be anywhere nearby in three days. Do you not realize that there is a such a thing as wind, and that air moves?

I am sure someone ate carrots too, each day right before it rained. Just like clockwork!

reply to post by Komodo


As has been the case for 4,500,000,000 years.

It's called weather


That said, every time I boil the kettle there is an earthquake. Everytime I sneeze, lightning strikes a tree. Every time I yawn it pours with rain. And every time I eat a curry it turns windy. Somewhere.

Am I a storm god? Should you bow down before me? You decide .......

Originally posted by Komodo
yep .. it's a total hoax.. but their spraying over my town right now and within 3 days it will be raining..

just like clockwork..

yep .. they sprayed yesterday and today BAM.. just like clockwork.. it's raining..

The most important yet lacking evidence imo, is the lack of any tests done with soil and groundwater after "spraying." And this testing is done CONSTANTLY. Do you think that some random schmuck fearing chemtrails is the only tests that could be done? No.. they are done daily, in every major city, with very expensive and accurate equipment. It is done by independant environmental companies, who are doing remediation and cleanup for various clients. I work for a company that does these tests.

And they send these to MORE THAN ONE TESTING LAB. Because they must have accurate readings. If not, and the client is found in non-compliance, the EPA can find them into bancruptcy. So our tests are accurate - and there is nothing there. Nothing other than what they were expecting typically, and certainly not mystery chemicals sprayed to dumb us down or kill us. If they sprayed as much as some of you say they do - so much so, that the sky is completely hazy, it would CERTAINLY be in the soil and in the water.

So answer me this - none of you chem-spray folks have yet to do so - why are all the tests negative? Why is there nothing there? If you can't explain this, you have NO PROOF. No proof means nothing is being sprayed, end of story.

Originally posted by Komodo

Originally posted by Komodo
yep .. it's a total hoax.. but their spraying over my town right now and within 3 days it will be raining..

just like clockwork..

yep .. they sprayed yesterday and today BAM.. just like clockwork.. it's raining..

As has been explained many times - the conditions for contrails to form are the same conditions as often causes cirrus could - in satellite photos contrails often start and stop at the end of banks of cirrus.

And cirrus often forms ahead of fronts - it has long been an indicator of rain to come - since long before there aircraft existed.

reply to post by firepilot


YOO BROO, before you speak do your research, chemtrails also have to do with weather modifications, a big part of it is raining. . . .do your research before you speak, and alot of it acid rain.....

yep .. still raining here... interesting.. they don't need multiple passes to get it to rain for 2days.. unless they went over the coast..

Originally posted by santjime
reply to post by firepilot

 

YOO BROO, before you speak do your research, chemtrails also have to do with weather modifications, a big part of it is raining. . . .do your research before you speak, and alot of it acid rain.....

It would help if you quoted.

You say its about weather modification, someone else says it is about killing everyone, someone else says it is about hiding Niburu, someone else says it is for radar, someone else says it is about a UV shield.

So who is correct?

And no, cloud seeding is the attempted way to alter the weather, and no, cloud seeding has nothing to do with your chemtrail conspiracy. You can tell me to do my research, but i can tell you I know more about cloud seeding that any chemmie there is

reply to post by borusch1


Air Weather Service was created in 1937 and is now know as, of 1997, Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA) are the command and control structure of Chemtrails and Weather Modification

Save the documents before they are deleted. They have been doing it for over 50 years. They put chaff and other radar tracers in it so they can trace the Chemtrails on radar. Remember that! Only the military can perform this type of operation. Please read the documents listed below to understand it.

Technical Report 177 An Introduction to Weather Modification

www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0696619

The Air Weather Service mission includes the field testing and operational application of weather-modification techniques.

1999: A review of Cloud Seeding Experiments to Enhance Percipitation and Some New Prospects

citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.172.5373&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Substantial work has also been conducted in the past 10 years regarding the dispersion and transport of seeding material in both convective and orographic clouds.

The use of tracer material to tag a seeded region has been particularly helpful in this effort. The two tracer materials that are used most often are chaff and SF6. Both materials could be released from either the air or the surface.

The dispersion and transport of the chaff is monitored by radar, while the detection of the SF6 is usually conducted with aircraft equipped to detect it at very low concentrations. (Stith et al. 1990; Klimowski et al. 1998).

1980 State Water Survey Division ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCES SECTION AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS: CRITERIA FOR WEATHER MODIFICATION OPERATIONS AND EFFECTIVE EVALUATION

www.isws.uiuc.edu/pubdoc/CR/ISWSCR-240.pdf

D. Designation of cloud treatment techniques.

1. Seeding agent(s) to be employed.

2. Method of transfer to clouds (aircraft, ground generators, or others).

3. Location of seeding in cloud (base, mid-level, top, other).

4. Method of dispersal into cloud (Agl generator, flares, rockets, dry ice dispenser, etc.).

5. Time(s) of day seeding is to be performed (if selective).

6. Duration of seeding in each operation.

E. Requirements for facilities and equipment.
1. Operational center.
2. Meteorological equipment.
3. Aircraft.
4. Ground generators.
5. Seeding devices.

F. Personnel.
1. M e t e o r o l o g i s t ( s ) .
2. A i r c r a ft crew.
3. I n s t r ume nt t e c h n i c i a ns and o b s e r v e r s.

G. Measurements to be made.
1. Meteorological.
2. Aircraft.
3. Radar.
4. Other.

Internet Trolls and Chemtrail sprayers... Besides if it is good for us why don't you let us know. Unless... you have something to hide...

Keep spraying and I will keep posting. Note taken: I guess you do work on the weekends....

reply to post by charlespearl


You are SO hilarious!!!

Once again.....linking CLOUD SEEDING, factual info....into the nonsense "chem"-trail HOAX concept!!!

Brilliant!!!

if you can do better & actually bring something to the table besides hot air.. i'm all ears.. cuz.. yea.. this is DOCUMENTED..

and yes.. there is cloud seeding Whacker.. wait for it.. Cloud Seeding



BAM~!!! DOH ~!! Whacker fails again ~!! it took me all but 2.5secs to bring this up..

WOW ~!! yes.. Chemtrails=Cloud Seeding (as with CHEMICALS) .........how the hell else would they do it.. ~!!

Your SO Hilarious~!!! and yes.. they do it with .. wait for it ..

NVM.. not gonna waste my breath..

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by charlespearl

 

You are SO hilarious!!!

Once again.....linking CLOUD SEEDING, factual info....into the nonsense "chem"-trail HOAX concept!!!

Brilliant!!!

Originally posted by Komodo Cloud Seeding

Yup, and this is the equipment used for that:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9a608e60d85.jpg[/atsimg]

Contains thousands of gallons of chemtrail fluid, right?

Originally posted by charlespearl
They put chaff and other radar tracers in it so they can trace the Chemtrails on radar. Remember that!

And how often have you seen these chemtrails appear on radar? A thousand times? One hundred times? Once? Ah. Think that's ended that one, eh?

Originally posted by Ivar_Karlsen

Originally posted by Komodo Cloud Seeding

Yup, and this is the equipment used for that:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9a608e60d85.jpg[/atsimg]

Contains thousands of gallons of chemtrail fluid, right?

Those evil silver iodide flares, flown by small planes into storms. When the chemmies get cornered, they tend to trot out these single/ twin engine prop planes as their evidence

Hi, I'm new to all this chemtrail stuff and I'm a self proclaimed idiot so please try to keep that in mind. Earlier today I was out in my backyard, I looked up and saw these "chemtrails" just lingering in the sky, I then spotted a plane fly high above my house and I noticed that the contrail was rather short and disapating, up until a certain point, and then the trail became longer and thicker than it had before, this trail was not disapating,.I watched until the plane was out of sight and the trail, from that certain point on just lingered there, billowing outward. What would cause it to do that...again, I'm ignorant to the operation of a jet and have zero insight to it's workings? Thanks in advance.

reply to post by GoodguyChris


A change in the atmospheric conditions at he jet's altitude is all that causes it.

At first it was in a space where short contrails could form - then it flew into a different set of conditions where persistent once could form.

the internal workings of a jet are analagous to those of a piston engine - the air is still sucked in, compressed, burned and spat out - but in a jet the process is continuous in different parts of the engine, whereas in a piston engine the process is sequential in the same part of the engine (ie they all happen "in" the cylinder one after the other).

Both processes geenrate large amounts of water vapour whether burning kerosene (Avtur) or petrol (Avgas)

All of these theories cannot be correct.

Which is the correct answer?

Hide Nibiru
Weather modification
Kill birds
Human mind control
Exhaust from jet engines

Lets take a comparative look at each one.

Hide Nibiru:
There are backyard astronomers all over the world. You would have to spray the entire planet all night every night. I don’t know about your house, but I have clear nights several times a week.

Weather modification:
If they spray over your house, it would affect the weather a state or two to the east. If you watch the weather forecast for a few nights you will see the storms moving from west to east. You can’t target the modifications to where your want them.
Wouldn’t that be a cheap way to prevent forest fires? But we still have them.
Wouldn’t that be a cheap way to prevent drought? But we still have them.
Wouldn’t that be a cheap way to prevent Tornados? But we still have them .
Wouldn’t that be a cheap way to prevent floods? But we still have them.

Kill birds:
Wouldn’t the mass spraying kill all the birds in several cities or even states? What we saw was birds in a few neighborhoods. And it wasn’t every species of birds just one or two. The number of deaths were in the hundreds to thousands. Spraying would kill multiple millions of birds.

Human mind control:
Are you acting differently?
Do you vote for a different political group than you used to?
Are you attracted to a different sex than you used to be?
Have you changed the food groups you like?
Do you changed your spending habits?
Did you kill your neighbor over the lawn mower?

Exhaust from jets:
Clouds are made of water.
Clouds can last for days. Watch the weather forecast for a few days.
All forms of combustion releases water. No exception!
The more efficient the combustion process the more water.
Jets fly at all altitudes everyday.
Baby it’s cold up there. Remember blowing steam out your nose this winter?
Jet travel has increased significantly in the last few decades. I never flew when I was a kid. But now I fly every year for vacation. Blame me and my kind for the increase.