The Bible and the war against God's true and only work.

I think, at least today's regurgitated version, feels negative. I prefer the emerald tablets. Way shorter as well, for us folks that like to get to the point. Just to let you know me not agreeing with you on something doesn't mean I think you're a bad person. Some people believe city tap water is healthy, some don't.

Some of the most interesting associations is the most sacred symbol for Egypt's Religion was the Scarab. These were generally carved from a mineral called fluorite and it was considered a shielding protective talisman of sorts. Everyone in Egypt was burried with some fluoite scarab for their protection in the afterlife.

If we look even more closely, we find this mineral that Egypt made the Scarbs from forms the octahedron shape, which is the exact shape for the top of the pyramids of Egypt. So, it appears there is forming substantial interest of Egypt in this particular mineral. Pharoes would be aware of this, as would Moses. This would become some of the special issues for Moses' Ark.

If one takes a specimen of a fluorite crystal and has one triangle face toward the eye and look across the crystal to the other triangle face on the other side one find the Shield of David as the front triangle's image overlays the rear triangle's image. So, from the most revered religion issues of Egypt, one finds something assigned as special for the Ark of Moses and for David's Shield. So special they built a special elegant temple to house the secret and its power of protection.

If one takes a tetrahedron crystal and does this same thing in the projection of the outside edges, one finds the standard hexagram shape. This crystal was indeed special because if it was burned in fire, it made a poison gas that could be very useful. Moses appears to have found another way as he discovered sulfuric acid in Midian, as told in a symbolic way via the burning bush story. So, Moses could then do something more special than the Egyptian's alchemy that needed fire to accomplish the release of the poison into the air. In the old world the octahedron is symbol for air.

It gets even more symbolic in the present day science, as the most prized examples of fluorite crystals are purple, the color for royalty. These purple fluoite crystals get that color mostly due to uranium content within the crystal. So, all the Manhattan Project types that knew this association always had a purple florite crystal souvineer.

In the issues for the Manhattan Project and Uranium, the major success was due to fluorite and sulfuric acid used to produce fluorine gas and hydrofluoric acid that was used to make uranium hexafluoride gas that was the method by which uranium was enriched to make the nuclear bomb. The Manhattan Project learned Moses big secret. The atomic symbol for the nuclear bomb, the atom, contained the shape of David's Shield symbol within. So, this same symbolism has been carried on across the ages from the protective element for the Pharos to the A-bomb protection built from fluorite's magic element.

So, as we get into the latter periods the specianess of this shape of fluorite connected with shields and even the Manhattan Project became a very special symbol for the Jewish Scientists that invented the A-Bomb and one can still see the symbolism from the ancient in the present domain symbolism. Example being the statue of Mary in Oak Ridge.

Thus, for most that know the history for the shield theme of fluorite's power from Egypt, stems the theme for David's Shield with the Ark, to the theme of Jewish shield against Hitler. To the theme of purple fluorite's affinity for uranium that makes them purple or the color for Royalty. Very interesting collections of symbolisms that all follow the allegorical methods for alchemical symbolism from the ancient sciences of Egypt.

The Alchemy of Egypt is simple today, it was highly prized by the Manhattan Project, it became the symbol for nuclear energy's atom, and the symbol for a religion based on Moses to free slaves and start a monotheistic religion based upon his notes on nature's ways and less oppressive laws for man.

It is a power that could be used for evil or good, and required a moral code to decide, and its secret had to become the most Holy of the Holy in those times. Today, what was epic Holy is so simple that vapid Christians have lost all that meaning, lost the very essence of the Essene's Jesus, and become Satan reincarnate.

What is Christian today is patent religious buffoonery designed to cover up truth and continue on the low road to Hell by keeping these essential secrets needed to unlock this old history of religion.

So, to ignore these obvious associations of Moses Shield, David's Shield, and the associations to Egyptian Shields that were at the core of their religion must take the power of Satan to accomplish, as the message has always been very clearly presented from the times of old to the times of nuclear bombs.

Christians of this day are the anti-Christ, those without the simple sense to explain that which is children's chemistry today. Christians returned to all the pagan symbolism for that of Satan's imagery.


Most of the secrets for the Manhattan Project involved fluorite, as well as the bulk of the costs. The inner secret of the Manhattan Project's gas diffusion was fluorite powder sintered with nickel powder to make a special diffusion barrier for gas diffusion to work. The chemical dangers from fluorite's chemistry cost the US 25 percent of the whole project's funds trying to seal the poison gas inside because it was so dangerous to the worker's health. The Manhattan Project's mistakes burned the paint off homes and frosted half a town's glass, and killed crops and trees around many sites. This was the power of the poison Moses worshiped as a shield.

The Manhattan Project made the use of Moses special toxic fluorite most generic in chemistry. Yet, what is obvious to the Manhattan Projects to Moses is some great mystery for the vapid intelligence of the Christians of today.

Originally posted by MagnumOpus
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The blunders of religion have held the world back long enough with the dumb X symbol, so follow the Jesus upward learning symbol that intended on giving everyone the truth and also the better science for health and longevity that the Lord's Supper symbolozed. The X cross is not about Jesus, in the same sense that X-mas isn't either, these are the signs of the charletons of the anti-christ.

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So the cross symbol and therefore it's message is dumb and not about Jesus/Yehushua, the author of salvation?
Kind of silly calling it dumb, and therefore it's message, when the Holy temple's furnishings were instructed to be set up as a pattern of what's in Heaven - which turned out to be in the pattern of a cross. Thousands walked in the temple regularly, yet could not see Him when He came.

I'll choose to not view it as foolishness.

I do think everyone knows what the cross means with Herod's sacrifice altar made in shape of cross, then the temple's design as a cross. And we know that Jesus called this the Synagogue of Satan. Thus, we see clearly that which you call heaven, but isn't. You have take up the burning by fire symbols and entered into Hell. imho

What would one expect from anyone that reads one book with such a low level of understanding. I'd think the better name for this thread would be the Bible that promotes ignorance, and works against the higher knowledge.

The Essenes wanted "Heaven Upon the Earth" and all those trying to point into the sky, like Nimrod's Tower, don't follow Jesus way. Those that built their churches in the shape for a T or cross, which also built their ceilings high into that version for Heaven, also worship the Nimrod version. Neither represent Jesus' ways. Jesus forecast such temples would be distroyed and not on brick to remain standing of these that worship satan. It would appear those that read the one book failed to know Jesus.


Those that promote that all I need to know is in one book, and I need no other, promote ignorance. Speaking about Crosses many have seen these, in the Skies, from the process of what some term Chemtrails. In Revelations, it speaks to the End-Times with odd weather and not being able to tell the seasons. Yet, the issues of Freon, which was made from fluorite's chemistry alludes them. Freon dominated the cause for the Ozone Hole, and Freon is made from fluorine and chlorine, and its actions in the skies is to break down and destroy the Ozone Shield so that UV-b radiation harms the Ocean's Biota and upsets what is called the Sulfur Cycle balance and the system many call Gaia that used to regulate the Ocean's temperature via emissions of DMS that made clouds from water vapor so the heat would not deposite in the oceans.

The Ocean's heating means they can't absorb as much CO2 into their surfaces, and the UVb damages the pytoplankton which converts more CO2 than the land mass vegetations of the world. Dare we call those that read only one book and remain so ignorant of Nature's Ways and Gods ways, as any more than ignorant of God. Today, Tri-Methyl aluminum loaded rockets are fired into the atmosphere to deal with the fluorine in the upper atmosphere to combine with fluoine and pull it out of suspension and remove the Ozone Hole's poison. Those that just read one book fail to take note that Manhattan Project's Edward Teller recommended aluminum sprayed in the atmosphere to deal with global warming. Everyone that dares to read more than one book can fiind the aluminum was one of the secrets of the Manhattan Project to trap fluorine releases, and the same thing is being used right above their simpleton heads every day. Not even to notice, in their vapid romance with one book, that the very issues of Revelations is being dealt with right above their heads. One can even find the Boron technique connected with Chemtrail methods and this was what science learned from Jesus' teachings of the Lord's Supper ritual, as Grapes, Grains, and Olive Oils all concentrate Boron into their health providing textures from God.

Now the Oceans are heating, the El Nino effects warm the mid ocean currents and send more water vapor into the skies and that is the largest of the global warming gases. It also causes a redistribution of the Sun's heat into the Oceans making Climate Change effects that change the natural balances that once existed before Man's Stupidity with Freon distroyed that which God had made, using again the dangers of the fluorite chemistry. Now those who are ignorant of the Evil that Crosses represent see hundreds of crosses in the skies and airplanes criss crossed trails attempt to make the clouds that mother nature once made via natural processes. And if Revelations is true then these times of the ignorance of man's disrespect for Jesus shall be a marker for his return.

Those that carry the cross and make their churches or temples of that design are no better than Babylon's Harlots of religion, the worshipers of Satan. imho

Had those that have this one book had taken the time to read some others, they might become less ignorant of these times and notice they are not the followers of Jesus, but the corrupters of man's higher knowledge.

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Hi Magnum

You wrote,

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"Phonecia put this in the land of Mt. Carmel and the home for the Essene order's high masters school and temple. Mt. Carmel taught Pythagoras all his Geometry symbolisms..."

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Pythagoras of Samos (c. 575 BCE - c. 495 BCE) was said to have studied for 19 years in Egypt, but the tradition of his visiting Byblos and other Canaanite or Syro-Phoenecian towns is a little weak...and if he did visit eretz Yisro'el on his way somewhere else, it is doubtful he would have come across any worshippers or priests of YHWH the post exilic (post 450 BCE) 'single' clan god of the benei Yisro'el...he would have come across the priests of Bull El or the priestesses of Asherah or the Sidonian Milkhom or even the priests of the [orig. Mycenean] Filistine fish-god 'Dagon'---

So if you have time this month, see if you can snoop around and do some historical research into the ancient pre-Yisroelite Canaanite (which includes the Syro Phoencians !) state religions - that is before you start making bold assertions that cannot be backed up at all. Also check out Ancient Near eastern Texts by Pritchard (orig. published in 1956 but updated recently) aka ANET - it will guide you better in terms of the actual archaeology of the period on the ground and not more of your jejune Zionist fantasies !!

And the 'Ossim (Heb. for 'Doers' i.e. of the Torah, Gk: Essenoi) did not appear on the scene until much much later - i.e. c. 170 BCE in the area around the Dead Sea (Deutero-Isaiah - 'prepare a Way for YHWH in the Desert; uin the Wilderness, make a Highway for our clan-god !') , although it is very true that the Ossim (Essenoi) DID borrow and incorporate some older Pythagorean Greek 'Mystery Religion' elements, whose Greco-Egyptian ideas were imported / brought into Eretz Yisro'el after the Macedonian-Greek invasions (c. 323 BCE) which allowed Syro-Greeks to run Palestine-Israel under the Seleucids, at least until the Macabbean Revolt (c. 163 BCE) allowed for semi self rule for 100 years (2 Jubilees) before Rome invaded under Pompey (63 BCE).

So many foreign pagan non 'Yisroe'lite' elements were IMPORTED into eretz Yisro'el from far older and more sophisticated Levantine neighbours, note not the other way around. And don't forget the priests of the benei Yisro'el (who were the ones among the general population who could read and write and who could foster rebelleion and also who (incidentally !) worshipped many gods and goddesses, not just YHWH before 400 BCE !) were exiled into foreign lands such as Assyria and Babylon and Egypt where they were 'exposed' to esoteric notions which they stole (or more politely, 'adapted') to their own Weltanschauung, especially after the 'monotheistic' reforms of Ezra c. 400 BCE)

But yes, we can see that the 'Ossim/Essenoi ('Essenes') and the Pythagoreans did have several points in common, including an interest in 'prophecy' - Pythagoras himself was said to have actually studied prophecy under one of the tripod-sitting-Pythia (oracular Priestesses) at the Temple of Gaia-Apolooi at Delphi (nothing quite like breathing in so much of the giddy fumes of ethyline and methane which shot upwards for 10 days a month from the Puthos ('snakelike" i.e. the earthquake-fault /crevice' - in order to be 'intoxicated by the gods' and to spew random syllables for bystanders to 'interpret' !) which was located at the base of their Holy of Holies - and chewing laurel leaves (a halluceogenic plant) didn't hurt either !

Some later traditions even hold that Pythagoras visited Byblos (an Egyptian run city near Ugarit on the Mediterranean coast where paper was manufactured, hence, 'biblion' = 'book') and went as far as India in search of 'arcane-esoteric wisdom' - so one could imagine that he must have come across in his wide travels something approaching the shape of the mogen-david (two interlocking triangles which were emblematic of Mediaeval Judaeism after c. 400 CE) in either of those places where archaeology shows the design existed from at least the 6th century BCE...

Interestingly, perhaps, the rock-tombs and bone-boxes of the Davidds (which must at one time have housed the bones of R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean (Gk. Iesous) and/or his immeidate family..c. 200 BCE - c. 72 CE) featured a caret design ( ^ ) with a (.) underneath it carved into the rock on the lids ofthe bone boxes and on the outside doorways to identify them as Daviddic - not quite a Mogen-David (2-interloccking triangles design) but well on its way - !

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Hi Pthena -

It would be very ironic if the mogen-David (interlocking triangle used by Jews of the middle ages) was from an older design-import into Canaan of originally Sidonian design - since the 'abominable Goddess of the Sidonians' i.e. the idols of the godddess Asherah (or Ashtoreth) their main fertility goddesses was a big thorn in the sides of the post exilic priests of YHWH after 440 BCE (i.e. the time of Ezra's reforms of the Torah) !!

[See 2 Kings 23:13 etc.]

But as you know we see the same interlocking trianlge 'alchemical' design both in India and also in China - (check out the board-design of the game of Chinese Chequers) both were quite pagan sources - far older than the culture of the benei Yisro'el (aka the Israelites ) !!!

So if it is a pagan imported emblem - why should modern-day Yisro'eli's use it on their national flag, I wonder ??

There are many associations that the Essene, which came to form the church of Jesus as the Messiah, had many of the same as teachings and respect for the Egyptian Mystery School in common that Pythogoras held. Pythagoras teachings and general dress code shared that of the Essene around Mt. Carmel, and Mt. Carmel was considered the top of the line in Mystery School teachings.

Pythagoras had his school of learning with 7+ 3 steps that culminated in learning so much of what was considered known was wrong. Jesus made something similar via his followers that were taught on the road all the similar issues of religion that Pythagoras wanted to expose, without so much mathematics perhaps, but the Jesus Church Seal is about the teachings in going from the low to the highest or the illumination for truth on high.

The Essene Jewish followers were considered the only real application for Children of God.

From the Essene we can see that as the Phonecians got into the building for the Temple of Solomon they departed from the given directions for the house for the Ark. As Jesus predicted for the 2nd temple, due to this opulence in the temple, not one stone was left standing then either. Solomon departed from the straight and narrow and things fell apart. The 2nd temple Pharisee following Babylon's ways also fell apart, as people just don't buy Satan's need to opulence, power, and prestige. God's most pious Chosen Ones didn't need this to impress and gather a following, as they just presented the real histories for religion in simple ways of everyday life.

Those that became so dumb as to not follow the original teachings were seen as The Beasts, that were no smarter than Animals, to be herded and exploited by these methods of Satan. Like frogs in a slowly warming pot they became slowly dead in the fires of Hell and departed from Heavens Way Upon the Earth.

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While "vulgar" people were not permitted access to Mount Carmel, it was a haven for holy pilgrims from various countries. In The Life of Pythagoras written in the 2nd century by Jamblichus, we learn that the great sage Pythagoras, as a young seeker, visited the Essene sanctuary atop Mount Carmel:

"In Phoenicia he [Pythagoras] conversed with the prophets who were descendants of Moses.... After gaining all he could from the Phoenician mysteries, he found that they had originated from the sacred rites of Egypt. This led him to... Egypt. Following the advice of his teacher Thales, he left... through the agency of some Egyptian sailors, and landed on the coast under Mount Carmel."

Pythagoras then climbed Mount Carmel where he evidently received powerful teachings from the Essene Nazarenes; for when he returned to the ship, the sailors, who had hatched a secret plan to sell young Pythagoras into slavery, were mesmerized by his spiritual luminosity and unable to harm him. Whatever teachings Pythagoras had studied and practiced during his stay with the Essenes atop Carmel, they had obviously served to transform him!


HE HAD CLIMBED THE MOUNTAIN AS AN ADVANCED SEEKER; HE DESCENDED THE MOUNTAIN A MASTER. The sailors, reports Jamblichus, believed Pythagoras had become "supernatural". We know that Pythagoras went on to become a chief exponent of vegetarianism, reincarnation, fasting and sacred geometry -- all Essene teachings -- and that he and his followers wore only white linen garments, in the fashion of the Essenes of Mount Carmel.


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We know from ancient documents that both Essenes and Pythagoreans shared many things in common. Both were vegetarian, both wore white, and both were deeply immersed in Qabbalistic studies. Pythagoras was nicknamed "the long haired one" which further links him with the northern Nazarean Essenes who were all Nazarites (long hairs). History has preserved for us a link between Pythagoras and the Mt. Carmel Essenes:

"In Phoenicia he (Pythagoras) conversed with the prophets who were the descendants of Moses the physiologist, and with many others, as well as the local heirophants . . . . After gaining all he could from the Phoenician Mysteries, he found that they had originated from the sacred rites of Egypt, forming as it were an Egyptian colony. . . . On the Phoenician coast under Mt. Carmel, where, in the Temple on the peak, Pythagoras for the most part had dwelt in solitude . . . Mount Carmel, which they knew to be more sacred than other mountains, and quite inaccessible to the vulgar..."(Life of Pythagoras by Iamblichus)

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Sometime during his life, Iamblichus compiled a biography of the philospher, Pythagoras, who had lived eight-hundred years earlier, between 570-495 BC. In this biography, he writes about the twenty-two year study Pythagoras undertook in the temples of Egypt, and about his initiation into the Egyptian and Babylonian mysteries.

He also writes about one particular trip Pythagoras made to Egypt during which he landed on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea. There, he separated himself from society, and lived and studied with a secret fraternity, in a temple beneath Mount Carmel.

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The larger Nazorean branch lived as families of both men and women, on and around Mount Carmel.

They maintained a tent tabernacle, which was con-structed according to the original directions that had been given to Moses on Mount Sinai.

Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” Hebrews 8:5

The sole purpose of the Nazorean Essenes was to prepare the way for the coming of the Messiah into the world. They were the B’nai-Amen – the Children of God. And so it was within this sect that Jesus began his studies.

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. Revelations 3:14

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According to Higgins, Pythagoras was an Essene, having been initiated into the order on Mt. Carmel during his residence among the Nazarite members of the ...

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In the fourth century B.C. the neo-Platonic philosopher Iamblicus, in his life of Pythagoras, speaks of Mt. Carmel as "sacred above all mountains and forbidden of access to the vulgar".

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