The Bible and the war against God's true and only work.

It's truly saddening that the stars count of the second post totally eclipses the first post. These people seek the truth so much, when in fact they don't have any clue what the truth really is.

There is a world out there that humans cannot see with their eyes. No logic or science can explain the reality of the spirit. One who does not seek that world will always be in the darkness, blinded by the Prince of the Air. The one who does not know God is missing out on some great things...

Originally posted by Vsc1981
You see the bible is God's work. We all know that.

You do not know; you assume. You have faith. You believe. If you tell me you know, you are lying.

He wants us to love and obey Him, and to fear Him. Not to worship false gods or prophets. To believe in only Him and only His word.

All scripture is inspired by God...

(2 Timothy 3:16)

The bible is but one book of scripture. If all scripture is inspired by God, then the teachings of Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, etc. are just as valid as the Bible. To claim otherwise would be to proclaim this passage false, and thus stain the credibility of the Bible.

Originally posted by KamiKazeKenji
It's truly saddening that the stars count of the second post totally eclipses the first post. These people seek the truth so much, when in fact they don't have any clue what the truth really is.

There is a world out there that humans cannot see with their eyes. No logic or science can explain the reality of the spirit. One who does not seek that world will always be in the darkness, blinded by the Prince of the Air. The one who does not know God is missing out on some great things...

Actually if you give up your scientific integrity you'll never find it. Science is a truth quest and many great scientist have discovered the truth of Jesus revealed through the bible. But saying that the bible is the only way to know God is arrogant. It also leaves out the idiots who can't read (not realistic). Also Buddism, TM, yoga, stuff like that offers a connection to the hidden things.

So what's so great about the bible? The history of the struggle of man in Good Vs Evil, and as evil was kicking our ass Jesus restored hope to this world and set an example of living in that hope for this world. Many live with hope that's not in this world. And many more are hopeless in this world. But the truth is essential to gaining the big picture understanding of what's really going on and what to do about it.

reply to post by Glass


So is some of my math. Lets rip that page from the book, it gets misused too often - construed into something it wasn't, legalizing things into a religion rather than the truths revealed. BTW, I like how you spun it that way!

reply to post by KamiKazeKenji


They seek the truth by laying a path of facts.

The mysteries of the spirit are separated by massive gaps of knowledge. Since it is difficult, nearly impossible, to prove the existence of spirit to the masses, these concepts will be discarded by those who think mainly with the left hemisphere of their brain.

reply to post by reitze


And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.

(Revelation 22:19)

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by XyZeR

 

How long have you been around and a fully functional know it all ? 30 yrs tops ? Prolly far less.

Nice personal attack there, if you must know i'm 36 years old. You know what really ironic: you calling me a "know it all", at least all i know came to me from study and observation, the scientific method, not just pulling "truths" and "facts" from a 2000year old fictional book

Please
in all your wisdom, level the playing field and tell us, how everything came to be?

Here's a hint, it's not in the bible, it's out there, in the REAL world.

Originally posted by cusanus
No need to read the comments, SSDD. But here are some facts to take home with you, kids. The triune God (three persons in spirit form, Father, Son, Holy Spirit) are not mythical beings. They are far more real and alive than anything in this physical realm which most people believe is all there is to see. This gentlemen seems to have put his foot in his mouth a bit and also made the mistake of throwing his pearls before swine, but many, many people, have met and experienced the true, living God in one or more of those distinct but seamless forms, including myself. For those who know these things and testify to them, the Jesus spoken of in the Bible is indeed God, a loving person, the only able judge, and the true creator of all things. For those swine out there who can't swallow that, I suggest you pull your brain out of arguments like the Scopes trial, the age of planet Earth, and all sorts of nonsense that people believe and say, including Christians, and simply start with the facts and adjust your conclusions accordingly. I can't say that my interpretation of Genesis is correct, and so I don't make it a point to try and convince people that the Earth is 10,000 years old (or is it 6,000); in fact, I'm pretty sure that the creation of Biblical interest was a makeover. But put these foolish arguments aside and stick with the most relevant and important facts. If you believe on Christ as your savior, rock bottom, and cast your cares on Him, He will reveal Himself to you, and you also qualify for eternal life, that is if you don't mess it up too much.

Sometimes, after I reap a whole lot insults about my intelligence (among other things), I tell people that I'm far from stupid, I have eight years university study in math and science, BA, MS, a 4.00 gpa in my major (3.84 overall due to department politics), encompassing upper division physiology, two chemistry minors, advanced mathematics including an A in graduate inferential stats, three years graduate research using thousands of ANOVA and multiple regression analyses for analyzing field data. Invariably, I'm called a liar, of course, but my transcript backs me up. You see, to earn the right to speak on this level, you have to have a graduate degree with research experience in science at a magna cum-laude level of performance; otherwise, you haven't the right to open your mouth, not that lack of achievement will stop fools from flapping their jaws. Having the right doesn't make you right, however, Stephen Hawking being a pitiful example of that. If you really earned your way, like I did, you'll realize, as did most of the eminent scientists and mathematicians responsible for building the foundations of real science, that God is very, vey real, and the Bible accurately represents His role and intent, past, present and future as long as you don't try to prove how old the Earth is or how He went about creating everything about you that you see. Real science, notwithstanding the joke called mainstream media, is about appreciating the natural things that God made, not about proving that He didn't.

I just have one question? What happened to the female essence? I've noticed that the Catholic church does honor Mary, but most other churches leave out the feminine,creative essence. I think the Trinity should be Father, Mother and Son. I believe this also originates in Egypt. There are many parallels between Jesus and Horus, son of Isis. I think the feminine divine was meant to be a large part of religion, but was taken out by church leaders. Things changed when the church leaders decided to promote 'works' to get into heaven. More charity, more money and do more good works. The Catholic church is rich and females are forbidden leadership rolls.

I actually didn't realize the similarities between Horus and Jesus.

www.religioustolerance.org...

Originally posted by KamiKazeKenji
It's truly saddening that the stars count of the second post totally eclipses the first post. These people seek the truth so much, when in fact they don't have any clue what the truth really is.

Profoundly Saddening.

Some would tell that "Ignorance is Bliss", but when such ignorance allows those so blind to worship Babylon's Satanic Image more than Jesus', then that shall never be blessed as you have become the anti-Christ.

reply to post by reitze

TextActually if you give up your scientific integrity you'll never find it. Science is a truth quest and many great scientist have discovered the truth of Jesus revealed through the bible. But saying that the bible is the only way to know God is arrogant. It also leaves out the idiots who can't read (not realistic). Also Buddism, TM, yoga, stuff like that offers a connection to the hidden things.

That is what the millennial rein of Jesus Christ is for, the lie churches tell you of an everlasting Hell where all will go that do not believe in Jesus is one of the more evil teachings of mans device .

Many people that say I have Jesus and believe they will be saved are going to follow the false Jesus the Antichrist because they have not understood Gods plan . The people who do the will of Jesus and do not get deceived by the instead of Christ will be the priests of Jesus who teach Gods plan while Satan is locked away for the millennium unable to lead man astray again . Satan will be let loose at the end of the millennium for a short while to see who paid attention during the teachings of the millennium . Then the book of life is opened and all who are not written in it will be cast into the lake of fire along with Satan to be blotted out of existence and everyone's minds like they never were.

reply to post by Glass


Nice way to take something completely out of context. By referring to scripture Paul (the author od 1 and 2 Timothy) is referring to the Old Testament from which the early church would have still been using for instruction on how to live righteous, God-centered lives. He is not referring to every "scripture" of every religion.

reply to post by XyZeR


You do realize that the 2000 year old "fictional" book you keep talking about does have historical validity which has been proven over and over again by archaeology and other scientific fields. Sure, there is a bunch of spiritual teachings as well, but to label the whole thing as fiction is naive because at least some of it has been proven to be historically accurate.

Originally posted by Azadok

Revelation 22:19

Text 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The only reliable bible is the KJV bible all others have been changed so bad you can not use a Strongs concordance to bring the verses back to the original languages the manuscripts were written in. Some of these changes in just one word changes the whole meaning of the text and what God was warning us of . Satan is a scripture master and knows how to change it just ever so to lead he masses into perdition.

That is why a student of the Bible is to divide the word of truth. Look at this way , say we only use the KJV bible do you think that once translated to another language all together will not have to add or replace words because there is no letter or word for that in the common tongue it is being translated to? Furthermore I have older versions of the KJV that show were words were added by the interpreter as italicized words.

I would also like to highlight this from Rev22:19 "book of this prophecy". What is Revelation? A book of prophecy..what prophecy? This "this prophecy".

Its not wonder the world looks at us like we are foolish. Christians can't even agree on what bible to read.

Again the important basic principles of the Bible remain the same in each translation. Love God, Live in God, love people, spread the gospel of Christ, show mercy to those that deserve none, be patient, be kind, and the most important is that Jesus Christ Son of God is your redeemer, your savior, and your Lord.

But in defense of your plight I respect your stance on the KJV. For whatever not done in faith is a sin, If I have been a stumbling block before you I am sorry.

reply to post by Mykahel


Then it was poorly articulated. Perhaps he should have wrote what he meant, rather than making a broad and general statement that could be seen to include every single piece of scripture.

I stand by the meaning of the passage as I have interpreted it, regardless of the context. Look at the scripture of any religion of love and light, and you will see the same underlying messages, the same "inspiration of God".

reply to post by XyZeR

Nice personal attack there, if you must know i'm 36 years old. You know what really ironic: you calling me a "know it all", at least all i know came to me from study and observation, the scientific method, not just pulling "truths" and "facts" from a 2000year old fictional book

Not at all an attack by any means. Just an observation. Anyone who would toss aside such an invaluble example
of ancient literacy and disreguard it's obvious archeological value as both a record of many ancient peoples and their history. Because all they see is that it is a book that gives authority over mankind.( That's you and I ) over to a Creator God ? You must be a know it all if you can just decide it's a book of fiction. When there are no scholars that would ever say such a thing.

Ya it's a 2000 yr old canon with some writings with'in that date back twice as far. All translated and available world wide. Some how I see a lot more promise in that book of wisdom than your " real world".

reply to post by the4thhorseman

TextI would also like to highlight this from Rev22:19 "book of this prophecy". What is Revelation? A book of prophecy..what prophecy? This "this prophecy".

The whole bible is prophetic , and in my opinion the verse means the whole Bible . The words that are in italic in your bible are that way to let you know they were added to make the sentence flow from the original languages . Look in the front of your bible and there will be a disclaimer stating exactly that.

reply to post by Vsc1981
This invention to control the masses and squelch thought has worked disturbingly well. The bible even "outs" itself!
The 'faithful' do a service to those who can still think by identifying themselves as hopelessly programmed.
This holds back the rest of the beings on the planet.
Disgraceful, really, and a disservice and insult to greater spirits.

reply to post by Vsc1981


And that his true words don't say that we will go to hell nor is tithing a new testament teaching.

2nd.

Originally posted by Star128
reply to post by Vsc1981

 

This invention to control the masses and squelch thought has worked disturbingly well. The bible even "outs" itself!
The 'faithful' do a service to those who can still think by identifying themselves as hopelessly programmed.
This holds back the rest of the beings on the planet.
Disgraceful, really, and a disservice and insult to greater spirits.

Why stop there ?

reply to post by Glass

Then it was poorly articulated. Perhaps he should have wrote what he meant, rather than making a broad and general statement that could be seen to include every single piece of scripture.

That's funny I understood it exactly the way Myk explained it. What are the odds ?