Was The Titanic Destroyed By A German Submarine?

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


I agree.

Let's allow others to continue.

Maybe there are some more facts either way.

I'm sure blocula has some excellent responses.

Let us not outsmart ourselves.

Some of the smartest people in history have been guilty of that !

Just look at how smart JFK was.

reply to post by Lee78


appologies - i dont follow your ` train of thought `

yes - i know that microbial organisims are metabolising the hull of titanic - a phenonemon not seen before

BUT

titanic is the only wreck of such age and depth that has been studdied in such detail

the processes " ongoing " on the titanic hull may be very common at such depths

reply to post by ignorant_ape


Well lets say that there was something not mentioned......say for instance a certain cargo or something else. At the moment everyone seems to be solely focused on pointing blame at each other. What if, what if what if?
All i am saying why a new microbial species? On this particular unsinkable vessel?

May be nothing. I dont know.

All i suggest is that ATS looks at all possibilities.

reply to post by Lee78


I'm getting some readings here.

I will let somebody else respond before me.

[joke warning]

maybe something like torpedo residue ?

or secret cargo ?

OR ........

Hmmmm....

reply to post by ignorant_ape

yes - i know that microbial organisims are metabolising the hull of titanic - a phenonemon not seen before

"" a phenonemon not seen before ""

can you please detail ?

sounds interesting.

...... I think that it was a new bacteriological discovery on the bottom of the sea. After all, we know very little about the exact biochemistery of the ocean floor. Especially when it's 2 miles down. I seem to recall Dr Robert Ballard somewhere saying that the Titanic was a persistently unlucky ship - she even sank in an unlucky spot.

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
...... I think that it was a new bacteriological discovery on the bottom of the sea. After all, we know very little about the exact biochemistery of the ocean floor.

...but of course, it all becomes clear if we confidently proclaim that the torpedo that the Germans used to sink the Titanic had a bioweapon in its warhead! It was designed to contain genetically engineered bacteria (another top-secret project that the cunning Germans conducted completely in the black) that was supposed to quickly digest all of Titanic in a matter of minutes, thus hiding all traces. Because of imperfection of the genetic design (not surprising for 1912), the bacteria acted slowly in the icy waters of the Atlantic.

How's that for yet another idiotic twist?

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
...... I think that it was a new bacteriological discovery on the bottom of the sea. After all, we know very little about the exact biochemistery of the ocean floor.

...but of course, it all becomes clear if we confidently proclaim that the torpedo that the Germans used to sink the Titanic had a bioweapon in its warhead! It was designed to contain genetically engineered bacteria (another top-secret project that the cunning Germans conducted completely in the black) that was supposed to quickly digest all of Titanic in a matter of minutes, thus hiding all traces. Because of imperfection of the genetic design (not surprising for 1912), the bacteria acted slowly in the icy waters of the Atlantic.

How's that for yet another idiotic twist?

No, wait, have you read my idea above about the whole U-boat theory and the ninja nibelung? What if it cursed the Titanic, just before it shot itself in the head to ensure its own silence????

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
No, wait, have you read my idea above about the whole U-boat theory and the ninja nibelung? What if it cursed the Titanic, just before it shot itself in the head to ensure its own silence????

Yeah, I'm sure I read your idea coz my gut still hurts

But you got it wrong. The super-nibelung spread the bacterial paste on the hull.

Originally posted by blocula

I could go on and on and on...

So ultimately...Why would Germany sink the Titanic?...They felt like it...

edit on 29-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)

That was my point. Thank you!
Why wouldn't they have done this? There were no NATO or United Nation sanctions at the time. I mean, grant it, I do NOT know a lot about modern history, but for a ship that was deemed and boasted as unsinkable, why would the public buy the 'iceberg' excuse more than the torpedo theory?
Did they ever FIND the alleged 'iceberg'? Were there paint chips on it? Did the DNA come back "Titanic"?

Of course I'm joking but really, where's the proof (of an iceberg)?

It's like saying -----steel and concrete buildings were constructed to the specifications to withstand airliners crashing into them and YET get destroyed by the very thing they were built to endure.
Whoops....by bad. Bad example....

But knowing what we know about our governments/media and how they manipulate the public.....why would we believe them back then when we don't even trust them now? And lord knows we were a lot more naive back then.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Of course I'm joking but really, where's the proof (of an iceberg)?

Either you are joking or you can't read very well -- the choice is yours.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg
How kind and thoughtful of the "board of Trade" to allow a woefully inadequate amount of life boats on the titanic.I wonder,was there anybody from the board of trade on the titanic? Or did they just hand out death sentences disguised as trade laws and trade regulations? "The less life boats,the more first class passengers money we can rake in",meaning more of them could walk around on the deck.Is that what the more than painfully obvious lack of life boats was all about?

reply to post by AngryCymraeg
A lot of history is built on lies and deceptions written by the winners of war.The losers voices and their version of events are sometimes warped,silenced,purposefully ridiculed and made to appear invalid.The victors pre-arranged agendas must be strictly adhered to by all who live under their slanted belief structures and control of the mainstream media...

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by SonoftheSun

Originally posted by foxhoundone
A rare picture of the alleged iceberg that shattered the Titanic's rivets (from Scottish ore mines).
Not that big to pose a worry..

heres the iceberg that susposedly sank the titanic,rather small...

Interesting, isn't it?

In a conspiracy world it isn't easy to swim against mainstream waters. I do not know if Germans sank the Titanic. I do not know if an iceberg sank the Titanic either.

Is there really a conspiracy? Why would anyone want to sink the biggest ship of its time?

It is almost a hundred years ago and some things have never changed. Money. Power. Greed.

Allright, I supplied a shady source - in my last reply - some might say...but it still weighs in a factor of gash versus holes theory.

Here is a more serious link. It has been mentioned already in this thread that the Federal Reserve was in its creation when the ship sank.

Why would anyone who wanted to instigate a Federal Reserve want to sink the Unsinkable?

One of many Titanic conspiracies floating around, many believe that the sinking of the famous vessel was well planned, well executed, and orchestrated shape the world as we know it today. This is the Federal Reserve Titanic conspiracy.

Wait a minute now....where's the connection?

Here’s how the Federal Reserve and the Titanic are connected. In 1910, seven men met on Jekyll island just off the coast of Georgia to plan the Federal Reserve Bank. Nelson Aldrich and Frank Vanderclip represented the Rockefeller (Illuminati) financial empire. Henry Davidson, Charles Norton and Benjamin Strong represented J.P. Morgan (Illuminati). Paul Warburg (Illuminati) represented the Rothschilds (Illuminati) Banking dynasty of Europe. The Rothschilds were the banking agents for the Jesuits and hold `the key to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church.’

Let's see...the Rockefellers...the Morgans...the Rothchilds...sounds like 2011, not 1910 now does it??

Was there anyone on that ship that the Elite wanted out? You bet.

Three of the richest and most important of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest man in the world.

Here starts a good conspiracy...

These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars that were being planned.

Oh...it gets better...

It can also be mentioned that J.P. Morgan, the individual contracted to build the Titanic was scheduled to be on the maiden voyage, but canceled.

Coincidences right? Sure they are. Like coincidences pertaining to 9/11, coincidences pertaining to JFK's death, coincidences pertaining to most conspiracies that do swim waters against the mainstream flow...

One thing remains and is not a coincidence.

All three men, whom were opposed to the Federal Reserve, died during the sinking of the Titanic.

So there might be a conspiracy after all...perhaps...but what does Germany have to do with any of this?

The Federal Reserve is installed as part of the Federal Reserve act in December of 1913, roughly a year and eight months after the Titanic tragedy, and World War I less than a year later.

Now get this.

Theorists believe that the Federal Reserve and the Jesuits were responsible for funding the United States, Germany, and Russia in the war.

Emphasis is mine. How convenient.

Oh, the source isn't as "shady" as the other one I linked earlier.

Titanic Universe - The Titanic - RMS Titanic Ship Facts & Information

Do I claim that Germany sank the Titanic? No. Do I claim that the Elite sank the Titanic? No.

But I wouldn't be so fast to jump on the iceberg theory either...

ETA/Edit to add: Now if anyone pulled that off...what would the public need to be told? That the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank...or...a that a torpedo sank the Titanic? Food for thought...

Just info. Make of it what you wish. Or as some have said...Move along...nothing to see here...

I sometimes have to remember that ATS is a conspiracy website...

edit on 25-11-2011 by SonoftheSun because: grammar

edit on 25-11-2011 by SonoftheSun because: added ETA

edit on 25-11-2011 by SonoftheSun because: grammar part deux

The undeniable,as far as i'm concerned,evidence is in the awesome and fact filled reply above by SonoftheSun and it is well worth reiterating here ^^^

edit on 27-11-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)[/editby extra DIV

reply to post by Human_Alien
Above is a picture of the iceberg that supposedly sank the titanic,rather small,isnt it,would'nt you say?

reply to post by blocula


So your round about answer to my question you avoided is you know nothing about the shipping industry of the time nor Trans Atlantic Liners of the same period, would that be correct?

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

How kind and thoughtful of the "board of Trade" to allow a woefully inadequate amount of life boats on the titanic.I wonder,was there anybody from the board of trade on the titanic? Or did they just hand out death sentences disguised as trade laws and trade regulations? "The less life boats,the more first class passengers money we can rake in",meaning more of them could walk around on the deck.Is that what the more than painfully obvious lack of life boats was all about?

edit on 29-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)

How much about the shipping industry of the time have you read if you don't mind my asking? There hadn't been a sinking of a major liner in 40 years. The arrival of wireless and the advancement of modern shipbuilding techniques meant that many people genuinely thought that something like the Titanic disaster just couldn't happen. The Board of Trade regulations were out of date but it took what happened that night in April 1912 to have them rapidly updated and enforced.

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

A lot of history is built on lies and deceptions written by the winners of war.The losers voices and their version of events are sometimes warped,silenced,purposefully ridiculed and made to appear invalid.The victors pre-arranged agendas must be strictly adhered to by all who live under their slanted belief structures and control of the mainstream media...

All very fascinating and also incorrect, as well as pointless. Please address my points above.

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Above is a picture of the iceberg that supposedly sank the titanic,rather small,isnt it,would'nt you say?

Please provide context. When was the picture taken, at which latitude, by which ship? We know from the statement given by QM Rowe on the after bridge that it was a substantial iceberg - he initially thought that it was a full-rigged sailing ship as it towered above him - and he was almost 60 feet above the waterline.

Here's a site with two pictures of the possible culprit, one of which actually has red paint on its side. www.titanic-nautical.com...

reply to post by GAOTU789
I am not a seafaring person,i'm what those that are would call,or use to call a land lubber.My star sign is pisces,the fish,but i dont really like the water vey much.I must have drowned in a past life or something,or maybe in a past life incarnation i was onboard the titanic and saw a torpedo streaming at and then strike the ship,maybe thats the real reason why i feel and believe so strongly that it happened,anythings possible...

I always try to think way outside of the box that most of society is comfortable shutting themselves off within.I wasnt involved in the battles of world war one or world war two either,thankfully.But i have read well over one hundred non fiction books about them and i understand what those people went through and i have empathy enought to try and keep their spirits and their memories alive,they must never be forgotten.Just like the victims of the titanic disaster must never be forgotten,whos one hundredth anniversary is only about three months away...