Was The Titanic Destroyed By A German Submarine?

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by GAOTU789

 

I am not a seafaring person,i'm what those that are would call,or use to call a land lubber.My star sign is pisces,the fish,but i dont really like the water vey much.I must have drowned in a past life or something,or maybe in a past life incarnation i was onboard the titanic and saw a torpedo streaming at and then strike the ship,maybe thats the real reason why i feel and believe so strongly that it happened,anythings possible...

edit on 30-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)

Fine. But bring some proof for your theory! Right now you have, well, none.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg
None?...No proof?...How can you seriously think and say theres no proof throughout these many pages... Theres only none if you choose not to see any...

And while on the subject of proof,theres a helluva lot of things that scientists,physicists and the media tells us and spoon feeds us that contain not much or no proof at all and cant be "proven"...

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

None?...No proof?...How can you seriously think and say theres no proof throughout these many pages... Theres only none if you choose not to see any...

And while on the subject of proof,theres a helluva lot of things that scientists,physicists and the media tells us and spoon feeds us that contain not much or no proof at all and cant be "proven"...

edit on 31-12-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)

Because you don't have any proof! All you have are a number of "what if" comments and a lot of speculation about what might have/could have happened. I and others have come back with detailed statements from witnesses as well as a lot of facts - none of which you have refuted.

Watching a show called "Seconds from Disaster" they tell you what happened to the Titanic. Now you must remember this documentary is different to what we were told, that it was a Iceberg although an Iceberg is involved.

What happens if the Titanic was sunk by a U-Boat or what happens if the sinking of the Titanic was due to Insurance Fraud, how does that affect a show like "Seconds From Disaster" where they claim to know what happened to the Titanic?

reply to post by Atlantien
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Originally posted by Atlantien
Watching a show called "Seconds from Disaster" they tell you what happened to the Titanic. Now you must remember this documentary is different to what we were told, that it was a Iceberg although an Iceberg is involved.

What happens if the Titanic was sunk by a U-Boat or what happens if the sinking of the Titanic was due to Insurance Fraud, how does that affect a show like "Seconds From Disaster" where they claim to know what happened to the Titanic?

Well, it wasn't sunk by a U-boat, so that wouldn't have an impact. As for the insurance fraud idea I find it extremely iffy.

reply to post by Atlantien


insurance fraud ? the titanic was under insured - how can you profit form an insurance fraud that will pay less than the value of the loss ?

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Atlantien

 

insurance fraud ? the titanic was under insured - how can you profit form an insurance fraud that will pay less than the value of the loss ?

And the Sister ship called the Olympic?

Originally posted by Atlantien

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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insurance fraud ? the titanic was under insured - how can you profit form an insurance fraud that will pay less than the value of the loss ?

And the Sister ship called the Olympic?

They found a serial number on one of the Titanic's propeller blades, thus proving that she's the Titanic and wasn't switched for the Olympic.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


What WERE the serial numbers of both ?

Were they in sequence ?

Was a "3" made to look like an "8" or something ?

I have heard rumors.

And no one has ever or will ever replace parts on vehicles or alter documents to get an insurance payout?

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

What WERE the serial numbers of both ?

Were they in sequence ?

Was a "3" made to look like an "8" or something ?

I have heard rumors.

IIRC the propeller had the number 401 on it. I'll look up a picture.

Originally posted by Atlantien
And no one has ever or will ever replace parts on vehicles or alter documents to get an insurance payout?

She's about 2 miles down on the seabed, having sunk in the middle of the Atlantic. In 1912 insurance companies did not have deep sea submersibles! Replacing a propeller wouldn't have made any sense - were they presuming that a survivor in a lifeboat would have rowed up to the starn to have a look at the serial numbers on the props as they rose above the surface of the water? Oh come on!

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


As the story goes,

the props were switched in dock.

here is an intriguing hypothesis....

When Olympic entered service in 1911, her propellers were photographed and these well-known photos show her turbine-driven central propeller as a four-bladed casting. In Britannic’s case, not only is a four-bladed propeller visible in period photos, but this propeller is also visible today on the wreck. However, at present, no known photos appear to exist showing Titanic’s propellers in place and, given that the central propeller is not visible on the wreck, this raises an intriguing question.

Although a number of adjustments were made to Olympic’s propeller specifications – such as altering the pitch at which the blades were angled1 and the diameter of the propellers themselves – and those of her sisters, our focus here is directed at the number of blades each propeller had. There is no reason to question that the port and starboard propellers, driven by the reciprocating engines, were three-bladed on every one of the sisters throughout their lives.

..... continues with a long article.

The mystery of Titanic's central propeller

now what?

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

As the story goes,

the props were switched in dock.

For what possible reason? And thank you for the link, but all it states is that there's a degree of mystery about if the Titanic had a four-bladed or three-bladed prop on her central shaft. Given the fact that her central prop is buried in mud, we don't know.

reply to post by Atlantien
People purposefully damage and crash their cars and trucks,intentionally burn down houses,restaurants and business offices every day of the week to gain insurance money,hell,people even murder each other for money every day of the week...

Originally posted by blocula
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People purposefully damage and crash their cars and trucks,intentionally burn down houses,restaurants and business offices every day of the week to gain insurance money,hell,people even murder each other for money every day of the week...

Except that the bridge crew of the Titanic was well south of the usual iceberg areas and was trying to port around the iceberg at the time of the collision.

reply to post by blocula


The shockwave of a torpedo rips ships in two, when they hit... they create a massive pocket of pressure under the ship almost always breaking it in half, the shockwave of the explosion would knock most people unconscience. The titanic would sink very fast, this theory doesn't make sense I know this as an ex-anti submarine plotting operator in the navy although basic common knowledge should have sufficed to deter anyone from validating this ridiculous theory.

Originally posted by Hudson88
reply to post by blocula

 

The shockwave of a torpedo rips ships in two, when they hit... they create a massive pocket of pressure under the ship almost always breaking it in half, the shockwave of the explosion would knock most people unconscience. The titanic would sink very fast, this theory doesn't make sense I know this as an ex-anti submarine plotting operator in the navy although basic common knowledge should have sufficed to deter anyone from validating this ridiculous theory.

While I agree with you about this "theory" being ridiculous, I think you are extrapolation too much in your reasoning. Torpedoes were smaller and less lethal in early 20th century.