Military training and it's effect on humans

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by PLASIFISK

 

Who is the enemy?
gravitor

Al-Qaeda-Taliban-Hezbollah, to name a few.
Anyone involved or supporting this. www.infoplease.com...

This guy and the people who are linked to the web sites he used. www.cbsnews.com...

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

Do they show such as this to soldiers in America??
Or is this crap just YOUR personal learnings?
gravitor

Thank you for confirming you are not American.
It was your question that gave you away.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

You thank Me for answering , but fail to answer.

The two sites you posted TELL You what they want you to believe, the second one confirms exactly what I have been trying to relate to You, that You are BREEDING terrorists by YOUR actions.
There were no so called terrorists until they were invented by those who desire more and more war.
Unless You WAKE UP to the deceptions this is next.
www.threeworldwars.com...

Then the final agendas can be rolled out.
Will YOU invade IRAN??
gravitor

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by PLASIFISK

 

Who is the enemy?
gravitor

Any group, organization, place, or person that tries to stop me from completing a mission, or has intent on killing me.

Plain and simple.

Next question!

Exactly the answer I hoped YOU would supply, and I do believe You.

Next question...
WHO orders do YOU respond to??
gravitor

Mattered not if you believed me or not gravitor.

A few question for you...

What country do you live in, and what do you do for a living?

The UK.
Who's orders do You respond to?
gravitor

Order's? I believe that has been established already in previouse posts numerous times. Do you have any Questions that havn't already been asnswered.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by PLASIFISK

 

Who is the enemy?
gravitor

Any group, organization, place, or person that tries to stop me from completing a mission, or has intent on killing me.

Plain and simple.

Next question!

Exactly the answer I hoped YOU would supply, and I do believe You.

Next question...
WHO orders do YOU respond to??
gravitor

Mattered not if you believed me or not gravitor.

A few question for you...

What country do you live in, and what do you do for a living?

The UK.
Who's orders do You respond to?
gravitor

Order's? I believe that has been established already in previouse posts numerous times. Do you have any Questions that havn't already been asnswered.

Unless you are one persons posting under several names????, You are answering what was asked of another.

Not too bright I take it??
gravitor

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by PLASIFISK

 

Who is the enemy?
gravitor

Al-Qaeda-Taliban-Hezbollah, to name a few.
Anyone involved or supporting this. www.infoplease.com...

This guy and the people who are linked to the web sites he used. www.cbsnews.com...

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

Do they show such as this to soldiers in America??
Or is this crap just YOUR personal learnings?
gravitor

Thank you for confirming you are not American.
It was your question that gave you away.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

You thank Me for answering , but fail to answer.

The two sites you posted TELL You what they want you to believe, the second one confirms exactly what I have been trying to relate to You, that You are BREEDING terrorists by YOUR actions.
There were no so called terrorists until they were invented by those who desire more and more war.
Unless You WAKE UP to the deceptions this is next.
www.threeworldwars.com...

Then the final agendas can be rolled out.
Will YOU invade IRAN??
gravitor

We may wind up attacking them if they continue to pursue nuclear weapons.
Are you of Muslim desent or is your family from Iran originaly.

As I stated before in a previouse post they attacked us and 9/11 is a fact it was supported by the factions I listed. The ones breeding terrerists are those factions.

reply to post by Grimpachi


Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

reply to post by gravitor


When a question has been answered already do you insist on others repeating it.

I gave orders to those in my comand that were ranked below me and took orders from those who were ranked above me. Did that really need to be answered again? Are you the type that needs to be told something over and over before it sinks in?

If intellignce is in question here I believe you have shown yours. A question like the one you asked is what most of us would call common knowledge.

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

edit on 22-11-2011 by gravitor because: (no reason given)

I answered your question maybe you did not understand it. However you failed to answere my question.

To answere about my Knowledge of nuclear weapons. I had limited training on them which is classified and I will not talk about. As I stated in a previouse post the threat of a nuclear weapon being used is very possible and long as opposing nations have nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war is always possible. Please don't be foolish or sheepish.

Originally posted by BIGPoJo
reply to post by Raivan31

 

Yes, everyone has equal potential.

Why do people say something that has no basis in reality?

The difference in people's inherent potentials can be objectively measured from a young age.

Some people are intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and/or physically superior/inferior to others.

That's just reality.

I find it disturbing that so many would choose to deny the reality of basic things such as these, when a large amount of evidence begs them to reconsider their irrational assumptions.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

edit on 22-11-2011 by gravitor because: (no reason given)

I answered your question maybe you did not understand it. However you failed to answere my question.

To answere about my Knowledge of nuclear weapons. I had limited training on them which is classified and I will not talk about. As I stated in a previouse post the threat of a nuclear weapon being used is very possible and long as opposing nations have nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war is always possible. Please don't be foolish or sheepish.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: added to

GRIM this dude is an OPSEC issue waiting to happen.

Besides that he thinks WE created terrorist. As if they weren't bombing other countries before america came about. He is shaky and his conversation has an underlying intent. Be done with him.

Oh and Grim, you can answer for me anytime brother. You know where I stand.

Gravitor, you bring a bad name to the UK!

out.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by gravitor

 

When a question has been answered already do you insist on others repeating it.

I gave orders to those in my comand that were ranked below me and took orders from those who were ranked above me. Did that really need to be answered again? Are you the type that needs to be told something over and over before it sinks in?

If intellignce is in question here I believe you have shown yours. A question like the one you asked is what most of us would call common knowledge.

I didn't ask YOU, I asked plasificks, unless YOU are him????

You have provided the answer I expected though,
Which is about obeying commands from senior officers, which means that YOU will do as ordered.

You are borg like then, and anyone who aquires a command above you can tell you any lies and you will obey as any brainwashed soldier will.

Thus all any organisation needs to achieve is infiltration at the highest levels, and the totally brainwashed soldiers below them will obey and carry out whatever inhuman commands are passed down.


Thus it has occured and the nazi's have taken over the vast powerfull American forces, and such as You have no idea.
Operation paperclip allowed thousands of nazi's into America, and You are reaping what has been sown.

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

edit on 22-11-2011 by gravitor because: (no reason given)

I answered your question maybe you did not understand it. However you failed to answere my question.

To answere about my Knowledge of nuclear weapons. I had limited training on them which is classified and I will not talk about. As I stated in a previouse post the threat of a nuclear weapon being used is very possible and long as opposing nations have nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war is always possible. Please don't be foolish or sheepish.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: added to

GRIM this dude is an OPSEC issue waiting to happen.

Besides that he thinks WE created terrorist. As if they weren't bombing other countries before america came about. He is shaky and his conversation has an underlying intent. Be done with him.

Oh and Grim, you can answer for me anytime brother. You know where I stand.

Gravitor, you bring a bad name to the UK!

out.

This is YOUR opinion, which You are welcome to.
At least You can see that grim is answering the wrong questions, he can't.

I do have an intent sir You are most correct, and that is the preservation of My family and all others on this planet.
I will fight ignorance and stupidity toe to toe, and never back down, and face such with no fear, at all.

America in particuler is been USED as a mind controlled war force by a global elitist thinking scum brigade of very long term planners.
They consider themselves a better race, a special brotherhood od superior beings, they are not.

If such as Yourself does not wake up and take PERSONAL responsibility for your inhuman actions , then the prospects of an ever increasing global war are very near, and those who desire such will be laughing their tiny dicks off at such as You for been so totally blind to their agenda.

gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

edit on 22-11-2011 by gravitor because: (no reason given)

I answered your question maybe you did not understand it. However you failed to answere my question.

To answere about my Knowledge of nuclear weapons. I had limited training on them which is classified and I will not talk about. As I stated in a previouse post the threat of a nuclear weapon being used is very possible and long as opposing nations have nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war is always possible. Please don't be foolish or sheepish.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: added to

GRIM this dude is an OPSEC issue waiting to happen.

Besides that he thinks WE created terrorist. As if they weren't bombing other countries before america came about. He is shaky and his conversation has an underlying intent. Be done with him.

Oh and Grim, you can answer for me anytime brother. You know where I stand.

Gravitor, you bring a bad name to the UK!

out.

Thanks bro. You are so right about OPSEC and the other.

I just feel frogy today and having a little fun. You were dead on about U.K. good call.
I also think he is muslim it could be why doing all this.

I really like when he gets stumped on a question.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Again You fail to answer.

What do You know of nuclear weapons???
I say that a nuclear war is not possible.

YOU as an AMERICAN have huge nuclear facilities and capabilities, but You so arrogantly declare that anyone else developing what You have ( and have used) needs to be taken out.

Such hypocricy, such arrogance , such ill informed stupidity.

gravitor

edit on 22-11-2011 by gravitor because: (no reason given)

I answered your question maybe you did not understand it. However you failed to answere my question.

To answere about my Knowledge of nuclear weapons. I had limited training on them which is classified and I will not talk about. As I stated in a previouse post the threat of a nuclear weapon being used is very possible and long as opposing nations have nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war is always possible. Please don't be foolish or sheepish.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: added to

GRIM this dude is an OPSEC issue waiting to happen.

Besides that he thinks WE created terrorist. As if they weren't bombing other countries before america came about. He is shaky and his conversation has an underlying intent. Be done with him.

Oh and Grim, you can answer for me anytime brother. You know where I stand.

Gravitor, you bring a bad name to the UK!

out.

Thanks bro. You are so right about OPSEC and the other.

I just feel frogy today and having a little fun. You were dead on about U.K. good call.
I also think he is muslim it could be why doing all this.

I really like when he gets stumped on a question.

edit on 22-11-2011 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

I have no religion grim one, and I am not stumped( an english cricket term) on any question.
Can't say the same of You though.

gravitor

The fact that I, and some others here, are even members of this website debunks the entire OP's concept that we are brainwashed robots. Can't speak for others, but I am a very free thinking individual who isn't afraid to think and speak outside the box - So long as I put my civilian clothes on first. And believe me, I am way outside the box these days.

Tip: Don't judge the military and it's members by the characteristics taken on by fresh-out-of-basic servicemembers. While they are military, they are still largely uneducated on what all the gears and levers within it do, or how they work if you will.

Also, members of a unit are frequently encouraged to spend time with each other often as they will be stuck with each other during deployments day in and day out. This is not an elitist behavior you are seeing, it is an important aspect of improving unit cohesion that they must go through and it can be hard to see it this way from the outside.

I have kept away from this thread because it stinks to high heaven of civilian vs. military rhetoric, but let me leave you with one parting gift.

*does the robot dance*

reply to post by gravitor


What question are you refering to? I may have just overlooked it. When you start to rant the same tired rhetoric I tend to skip through it.

Originally posted by gravitor
Who TOLD You that?
Please fully describe what an insurgent is.
gravitor

So, Gravitor, you still haven't answered the question I asked first: How is insurgents killing their own civilians fighting the invader?

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by gravitor
Who TOLD You that?
Please fully describe what an insurgent is.
gravitor

So, Gravitor, you still haven't answered the question I asked first: How is insurgents killing their own civilians fighting the invader?

Describe what an insurgent is?
gravitor

Originally posted by Sek82
The fact that I, and some others here, are even members of this website debunks the entire OP's concept that we are brainwashed robots. Can't speak for others, but I am a very free thinking individual who isn't afraid to think and speak outside the box - So long as I put my civilian clothes on first.

And believe me, I am way outside the box these days.

Tip: Don't judge the military and it's members by the characteristics taken on by fresh-out-of-basic servicemembers. While they are military, they are still largely uneducated on what all the gears and levers within it do, or how they work if you will.

Also, members of a unit are frequently encouraged to spend time with each other often as they will be stuck with each other during deployments day in and day out. This is not an elitist behavior you are seeing, it is an important aspect of improving unit cohesion that they must go through and it can be hard to see it this way from the outside.

I have kept away from this thread because it stinks to high heaven of civilian vs. military rhetoric, but let me leave you with one parting gift.

*does the robot dance*

82,

I have tried with no success to convey everything you just said. I too tried to stay out of this thread because, these types always turn into a civilian vs. soldier battle. They seem to forget that we soldiers ARE civilians held to higher standards, with LESS rights, greater responsibility, and total selflessness.

At any rate, you did pose a valid question to Gravitor, which I too would like answered!

"Does the robot dance?"

Gravitor has grown on me a bit. My little confused chum from the UK.

Do your thing Gravitor, Do your thing!

(he will have a problem with everything I just said undoubtedly. Tough love)

reply to post by BIGPoJo


To counter your video response,
In reality there is no difference between the u.s. service man and the enemies they are currently fighting on a human level. They too are mostly young , physically fit and have the same emotions as everyone else. Above all they are a mostly civilian, untrained and an ill-equipped force. The only difference between the two is the U.S. service man is fighting with the best technology on the planet. They implement state of the art small arms, armor (personal and vehicle), artillery and air support. Try sending every marine in with just an AK, a couple of mags and a bag of rice and see how long they really can improvise for. Put ‘em on a level playing field with their enemy and see who is “superior”. With that being said, try to remember that this country was built by a civilian majority fighting force. Much like the Taliban they were ill-equipped with little training but still had the heart to succeed due to them knowing what was at stake. So yeah there may be a few lazy civiy’s out there, but not all we’re all individuals with positive and negative attributes. It’s unfortunate that the military drills the opposite in to the minds of our youth.

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by gravitor
Who TOLD You that?
Please fully describe what an insurgent is.
gravitor

So, Gravitor, you still haven't answered the question I asked first: How is insurgents killing their own civilians fighting the invader?

Describe what an insurgent is?
gravitor

Ah, yes!!! I thought that would happen. Once again, deflection when a direct question is asked.

Sorry, gonna have to go back to the first grade for your response: I asked you first.