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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK
reply to post by tangonine
 


Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


agreed. I was never even close to being a Tier-1 operator, but I had the fortune to meet a couple men who would recruit from my units for combat controllers tactical air control. I've never met a more selfless, dedicated group of men.

Their humility and dedication humbles me to this day. People like that poster would never understand what it takes to defend a nation.

And I apologize for "name dropping" but I had the fortune of meeting TSgt Tim Wilkinson when he came to recruit some of my troops as PJs. Two months later, I found myself in the Hall of Heroes in the Pentagon. I found myself alone, as the tour moved on. I stood there in front of the plaque with Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart's names on it.

I was alone. I dropped my cover on the ground. And I wept. No one saw that, and in fact, I have no idea why I'm sharing that here...

So to the loser commie douchebag that says our airmen/marines/sailors/soldiers are "cowards:" How dare you? How dare you, sir?

How dare you?
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


Then please do your job as a citizen by voting in people that won't send us to war


We do not have a system to achieve such.
Those who are operating such as You are taking over Your country and destroying it.
LAND OF THE FREE....what a joke.

Your PARTRIOT ACT is seeing to that, but the military are too occupied elsewhere, instead of doing what Your constitution demands of every one of You to defend.
TO DEFEND AMERICA.

YOU are all failing in YOUR duty, YOU are not defending this nation.
You are aiding its destruction, You are acting against the constitution.
Basically treason.

gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


Then please do your job as a citizen by voting in people that won't send us to war


We do not have a system to achieve such.
Those who are operating such as You are taking over Your country and destroying it.
LAND OF THE FREE....what a joke.

Your PARTRIOT ACT is seeing to that, but the military are too occupied elsewhere, instead of doing what Your constitution demands of every one of You to defend.
TO DEFEND AMERICA.

YOU are all failing in YOUR duty, YOU are not defending this nation.
You are aiding its destruction, You are acting against the constitution.
Basically treason.

gravitor


You are vile. You are aiding in the destruction of my nation. You are my enemy.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


Then please do your job as a citizen by voting in people that won't send us to war


We do not have a system to achieve such.
Those who are operating such as You are taking over Your country and destroying it.
LAND OF THE FREE....what a joke.

Your PARTRIOT ACT is seeing to that, but the military are too occupied elsewhere, instead of doing what Your constitution demands of every one of You to defend.
TO DEFEND AMERICA.

YOU are all failing in YOUR duty, YOU are not defending this nation.
You are aiding its destruction, You are acting against the constitution.
Basically treason.

gravitor


You are vile. You are aiding in the destruction of my nation. You are my enemy.


You don't like Me.

I am trying to do exactly the opposite, please describe( if You can) how I am destroying your nation.
gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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reply to post by PLASIFISK
 


If ignorance is bliss gravitar must be in heavan.

The kid is obviously uneducated in the way of the world and is deffinitly lieing about going up to soldiers and saying the crap he is saying here. To be fair I could be wrong about the secound part he could be at home with his jaw wired shut from doing something like that. Who knows but him. Its just hard for me to believe he is that stupid to actualy believe what he is saying.

He hasn't answered any questions like what he is actualy doing to change things. If he thinks that spouting falsehoods on here is effecting change then feel sorry for him because he is truly dumb.

He might be some camel jockey just trying to get a rise out of us because his dad blew himself up in the jihad that failed. I didn't know Star Trek was so popular with children. Borg...really? Does anyone talk like that?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


Then please do your job as a citizen by voting in people that won't send us to war


We do not have a system to achieve such.
Those who are operating such as You are taking over Your country and destroying it.
LAND OF THE FREE....what a joke.

Your PARTRIOT ACT is seeing to that, but the military are too occupied elsewhere, instead of doing what Your constitution demands of every one of You to defend.
TO DEFEND AMERICA.

YOU are all failing in YOUR duty, YOU are not defending this nation.
You are aiding its destruction, You are acting against the constitution.
Basically treason.

gravitor


You are vile. You are aiding in the destruction of my nation. You are my enemy.


You don't like Me.

I am trying to do exactly the opposite, please describe( if You can) how I am destroying your nation.
gravitor


seriously?

Since you're not to quick on the up-take, I'll go sesame street just for you:

You're undermining the people that defend your way of life.

The people that wear the uniform of the marines/army/nave/airforce are different from you only in that they wrote a blank check to the nation that said "up to and including my life."

You, sir, unless you have written that check, are in no position to judge them. And I'm here to ensure you don't.

You had the temerity to call our nation's warriors "cowards." I actually don't take any real offense to that because I know there's this group of people that have no idea what self sacrifice is about. But I do need to point out to you, however futile it may be, that you're wrong. And you're wrong not in a trivial sense, but you're wrong as a person and you're broken.

All I can do is pity you, pick up my M4, and keep defending people like you that are lost.
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
reply to post by tangonine
 


Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


agreed. I was never even close to being a Tier-1 operator, but I had the fortune to meet a couple men who would recruit from my units for combat controllers tactical air control. I've never met a more selfless, dedicated group of men.

Their humility and dedication humbles me to this day. People like that poster would never understand what it takes to defend a nation.

And I apologize for "name dropping" but I had the fortune of meeting TSgt Tim Wilkinson when he came to recruit some of my troops as PJs. Two months later, I found myself in the Hall of Heroes in the Pentagon. I found myself alone, as the tour moved on. I stood there in front of the plaque with Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart's names on it.

I was alone. I dropped my cover on the ground. And I wept. No one saw that, and in fact, I have no idea why I'm sharing that here...

So to the loser commie douchebag that says our airmen/marines/sailors/soldiers are "cowards:" How dare you? How dare you, sir?

How dare you?
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)


Because it's so obvious, nobody is attacking America.
There is no need to defend your nation, except against those who are destroying it, but the current military are operating for those who would destroy it.
And because they have you so well programmed, you cannot see it.

Your actions in invading others nations is creating an enemy, which is what a corperate military machine desires.

If You are not cowerds, then do what is right and leave those countries now, but You are all too afraid to go against your programmers, they have you cowering in obedience, and you do their biddings.

it is the height of cowardice to do what you know is wrong.

gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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reply to post by gravitor
 


Yes, that programming is so spot on and set in stone. Funny that I became a pacifist. Guess the corporations didn't see that one coming



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by PLASIFISK
 


If ignorance is bliss gravitar must be in heavan.

The kid is obviously uneducated in the way of the world and is deffinitly lieing about going up to soldiers and saying the crap he is saying here. To be fair I could be wrong about the secound part he could be at home with his jaw wired shut from doing something like that. Who knows but him. Its just hard for me to believe he is that stupid to actualy believe what he is saying.

He hasn't answered any questions like what he is actualy doing to change things. If he thinks that spouting falsehoods on here is effecting change then feel sorry for him because he is truly dumb.

He might be some camel jockey just trying to get a rise out of us because his dad blew himself up in the jihad that failed. I didn't know Star Trek was so popular with children. Borg...really? Does anyone talk like that?


So!,
You think that the answer to any alternate view to yours is violence???
Is that what wired up jaw refers to?

As to your OPINION that I am DUMB, it is merely your opinion, which as I know is totally flawed.

I find the INVASIONS undertaken based upon the murderous destruction of some towers in New York and the subsequent unproven pack of lies linking this to some man in a cave obnoxious and revenge crazed.

Most of You bought the lies TOLD to You so effectivel;y on such as fox.
Then You acted in blood thirsted revenge, with no evidence to confirm, and then invaded anywhere except where the so called terrorists actually origonated from.
but then You would have had to have taken on a reasonable army.

But those trained and programmed to do as they are told love to fight, to kill, to be HEROES.
You are not such, You are not defending America, You are participating in its destruction, turning it into the land of the oppressed.

There will be lots of jobs though for well programmed borgs, lots of post military security jobs.
gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
reply to post by tangonine
 


Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


agreed. I was never even close to being a Tier-1 operator, but I had the fortune to meet a couple men who would recruit from my units for combat controllers tactical air control. I've never met a more selfless, dedicated group of men.

Their humility and dedication humbles me to this day. People like that poster would never understand what it takes to defend a nation.

And I apologize for "name dropping" but I had the fortune of meeting TSgt Tim Wilkinson when he came to recruit some of my troops as PJs. Two months later, I found myself in the Hall of Heroes in the Pentagon. I found myself alone, as the tour moved on. I stood there in front of the plaque with Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart's names on it.

I was alone. I dropped my cover on the ground. And I wept. No one saw that, and in fact, I have no idea why I'm sharing that here...

So to the loser commie douchebag that says our airmen/marines/sailors/soldiers are "cowards:" How dare you? How dare you, sir?

How dare you?
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)


Because it's so obvious, nobody is attacking America.
There is no need to defend your nation, except against those who are destroying it, but the current military are operating for those who would destroy it.
And because they have you so well programmed, you cannot see it.

Your actions in invading others nations is creating an enemy, which is what a corperate military machine desires.

If You are not cowerds, then do what is right and leave those countries now, but You are all too afraid to go against your programmers, they have you cowering in obedience, and you do their biddings.

it is the height of cowardice to do what you know is wrong.

gravitor


In all honesty, I should heed the previous posters pointing out that you're a lost cause. However, if anyone should read this and be on the fence, they should see the beat down I'm about to apply.

First: my "actions invading others (sic) nations" is the result of hostile actions on the part of those nations or the factions they enable.

Second: I do what is right. Let me define that for you: What is right is me defending my constitution and my family. If anything poses a threat to that, it dies. Don't like it? Tough. Welcome to the real world. I'm "obedient" up to and including any orders that satisfy the first conditions: Does it support the laws of my nation? Does it protect my family?

I'm sorry you don't have the cajones to defend yourself. How, really, do you sleep at night knowing you're harmless and just fodder? Sorry. I digress.

I'd admit I'm wrong, actually I'm wrong all the time. Your cowardice is just.... well... you're just a coward. You'd never place your life in the balance. I'd go to Vegas and bet the entire sum on that. I know people like you, and I know who you are.

I'm sorry for you.

EDIT: And the fact you can't reply to my earlier post regarding the sacrifice of those that wear the uniform means you don't have a response and you're apparently dumbfounded. Not a shock.


edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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reply to post by EyesWideShut
 


Probably the best explanation given that I've heard. (Star for you, Sir!) When I returned home from USMC basic, I immediately felt the difference between my friends mentality and my own. My mentality was more mature, more confident. There really is no way to explain it, it is something that is experienced. On a side note, after I was discharged it took me many years to feel completely at ease around my friends again. By then, we were moving into other phases of our lives. Kids, careers, or in some cases, continued doing what they had been doing. I think we, meaning military personnel (Active or inactive) feel that we were doing something important. Upholding the beliefs our country was founded upon, regardless of how far our country's government may have skewed its direction in present day. I can promise you this: When the # hits the fan, you're gonna be damn happy that you know someone that's been in the service, they just might help to keep you alive. Then again, they may remember your (your: meaning some of the military haters) posts and leave you to fend for yourselves. To the OP, I hope you find some peace and comfort in your personal life!



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Yes! Another vast generalization thread to paint everyone in a group into a neat little box . Its been maybe two three hours since I've seen one. I was getting worried for a moment that we were starting to understand that people are individuals and such.

OT: Okay, my cousin is in the military and so is his wife. My cousin was already arrogant and though a lot of himself, though when he went into the military he came back with a little more maturity and humility. I blame that on growing up and having a family to take care of, his still the same, fun and irresponsible guy at the core. He has just toned it down. His wife is quite and careful around us I don't know much about her but never got a vibe that she though she was better than anyone.

My grandfather(navy 20 years) and his brothers(My uncles) all in the military. My grandfather, is respectful and kind to everyone. Same with my uncles. Well expect my uncle Ron, he's a huge Jerk and thinks better of himself over everyone. He never served. My grandma didn't server either and shes really nice. Its like I don't people have different personalities or something that doesn't come from their job profession



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Agreed. From personal experience I can say the military does not make you a saint, but neither does it make you into an evil mindless robot shooting napalm everywhere.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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On a side note, after I was discharged


As a side note. No one I've known who's served honorably ever uses the phrase "I was discharged." I "left" after 13 years of service. I would NEVER say I "was discharged." Ever.

I chose to leave. What happened that you were thrown the fk out?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
reply to post by tangonine
 


Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


agreed. I was never even close to being a Tier-1 operator, but I had the fortune to meet a couple men who would recruit from my units for combat controllers tactical air control. I've never met a more selfless, dedicated group of men.

Their humility and dedication humbles me to this day. People like that poster would never understand what it takes to defend a nation.

And I apologize for "name dropping" but I had the fortune of meeting TSgt Tim Wilkinson when he came to recruit some of my troops as PJs. Two months later, I found myself in the Hall of Heroes in the Pentagon. I found myself alone, as the tour moved on. I stood there in front of the plaque with Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart's names on it.

I was alone. I dropped my cover on the ground. And I wept. No one saw that, and in fact, I have no idea why I'm sharing that here...

So to the loser commie douchebag that says our airmen/marines/sailors/soldiers are "cowards:" How dare you? How dare you, sir?

How dare you?
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)


Because it's so obvious, nobody is attacking America.
There is no need to defend your nation, except against those who are destroying it, but the current military are operating for those who would destroy it.
And because they have you so well programmed, you cannot see it.

Your actions in invading others nations is creating an enemy, which is what a corperate military machine desires.

If You are not cowerds, then do what is right and leave those countries now, but You are all too afraid to go against your programmers, they have you cowering in obedience, and you do their biddings.

it is the height of cowardice to do what you know is wrong.

gravitor


The catch is, sparky, I think it's right. And you misspelled "cowards."



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by PLASIFISK
 


If ignorance is bliss gravitar must be in heavan.

The kid is obviously uneducated in the way of the world and is deffinitly lieing about going up to soldiers and saying the crap he is saying here. To be fair I could be wrong about the secound part he could be at home with his jaw wired shut from doing something like that. Who knows but him. Its just hard for me to believe he is that stupid to actualy believe what he is saying.

He hasn't answered any questions like what he is actualy doing to change things. If he thinks that spouting falsehoods on here is effecting change then feel sorry for him because he is truly dumb.

He might be some camel jockey just trying to get a rise out of us because his dad blew himself up in the jihad that failed. I didn't know Star Trek was so popular with children. Borg...really? Does anyone talk like that?


So!,
You think that the answer to any alternate view to yours is violence???
Is that what wired up jaw refers to?

As to your OPINION that I am DUMB, it is merely your opinion, which as I know is totally flawed.

I find the INVASIONS undertaken based upon the murderous destruction of some towers in New York and the subsequent unproven pack of lies linking this to some man in a cave obnoxious and revenge crazed.

Most of You bought the lies TOLD to You so effectivel;y on such as fox.
Then You acted in blood thirsted revenge, with no evidence to confirm, and then invaded anywhere except where the so called terrorists actually origonated from.
but then You would have had to have taken on a reasonable army.

But those trained and programmed to do as they are told love to fight, to kill, to be HEROES.
You are not such, You are not defending America, You are participating in its destruction, turning it into the land of the oppressed.

There will be lots of jobs though for well programmed borgs, lots of post military security jobs.
gravitor


This is not a opinion. You stated that you have gone up to sevicemen and said the same crap you are stating here. That Is Fact. Here is another fact if you actualy did such a vile thing you would be hurt very badly it might not have even been a soldier who did it hell my wife would have probably knocked you into next week or any number of patriotic citizens who were around. So don't twist what I said into what it isn't. This just proves you are a dispicable lieing coward.

Anything else in your posts I will just skip over because you have truly proven that are not worth it and to be very frank you are full of sh#t. Yes I swear that has been established in the past.


Get some help someone has brainwashed you. You use the same words over and over. You have no substance and a tired rhetoric that is only aimed at geting a rise out of us. Fact three you said that yourself.

So please grow up and get a life and hopefully one day you will wake up and see the world the way it really is not this imaginary one you live in.

This is just some advice for you as well. When you start spouting off conspiracy theory crap you lose credibility. You are far to gulible if you believe anyone but Alqaeda iwere responsible for 9/11 then I just feel sorry for you.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by PLASIFISK
 


If ignorance is bliss gravitar must be in heavan.

The kid is obviously uneducated in the way of the world and is deffinitly lieing about going up to soldiers and saying the crap he is saying here. To be fair I could be wrong about the secound part he could be at home with his jaw wired shut from doing something like that. Who knows but him. Its just hard for me to believe he is that stupid to actualy believe what he is saying.

He hasn't answered any questions like what he is actualy doing to change things. If he thinks that spouting falsehoods on here is effecting change then feel sorry for him because he is truly dumb.

He might be some camel jockey just trying to get a rise out of us because his dad blew himself up in the jihad that failed. I didn't know Star Trek was so popular with children. Borg...really? Does anyone talk like that?


So!,
You think that the answer to any alternate view to yours is violence???
Is that what wired up jaw refers to?

As to your OPINION that I am DUMB, it is merely your opinion, which as I know is totally flawed.

I find the INVASIONS undertaken based upon the murderous destruction of some towers in New York and the subsequent unproven pack of lies linking this to some man in a cave obnoxious and revenge crazed.

Most of You bought the lies TOLD to You so effectivel;y on such as fox.
Then You acted in blood thirsted revenge, with no evidence to confirm, and then invaded anywhere except where the so called terrorists actually origonated from.
but then You would have had to have taken on a reasonable army.

But those trained and programmed to do as they are told love to fight, to kill, to be HEROES.
You are not such, You are not defending America, You are participating in its destruction, turning it into the land of the oppressed.

There will be lots of jobs though for well programmed borgs, lots of post military security jobs.
gravitor


This is not a opinion. You stated that you have gone up to sevicemen and said the same crap you are stating here. That Is Fact. Here is another fact if you actualy did such a vile thing you would be hurt very badly it might not have even been a soldier who did it hell my wife would have probably knocked you into next week or any number of patriotic citizens who were around. So don't twist what I said into what it isn't. This just proves you are a dispicable lieing coward.

Anything else in your posts I will just skip over because you have truly proven that are not worth it and to be very frank you are full of sh#t. Yes I swear that has been established in the past.


Get some help someone has brainwashed you. You use the same words over and over. You have no substance and a tired rhetoric that is only aimed at geting a rise out of us. Fact three you said that yourself.

So please grow up and get a life and hopefully one day you will wake up and see the world the way it really is not this imaginary one you live in.

This is just some advice for you as well. When you start spouting off conspiracy theory crap you lose credibility. You are far to gulible if you believe anyone but Alqaeda iwere responsible for 9/11 then I just feel sorry for you.


you know already that people like him are already fundamentally broken. He'll never get your point, he won't change his opinion.

We only reply to his posts in order to keep other people, that can think, from being drawn in by his stupidity.

The bottom line: There's a select group of our populace that chooses to defend the nation.

I was going to add more... but... I think that bit ends it.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
reply to post by tangonine
 


Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


agreed. I was never even close to being a Tier-1 operator, but I had the fortune to meet a couple men who would recruit from my units for combat controllers tactical air control. I've never met a more selfless, dedicated group of men.

Their humility and dedication humbles me to this day. People like that poster would never understand what it takes to defend a nation.

And I apologize for "name dropping" but I had the fortune of meeting TSgt Tim Wilkinson when he came to recruit some of my troops as PJs. Two months later, I found myself in the Hall of Heroes in the Pentagon. I found myself alone, as the tour moved on. I stood there in front of the plaque with Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart's names on it.

I was alone. I dropped my cover on the ground. And I wept. No one saw that, and in fact, I have no idea why I'm sharing that here...

So to the loser commie douchebag that says our airmen/marines/sailors/soldiers are "cowards:" How dare you? How dare you, sir?

How dare you?
edit on 20-11-2011 by tangonine because: (no reason given)


Because it's so obvious, nobody is attacking America.
There is no need to defend your nation, except against those who are destroying it, but the current military are operating for those who would destroy it.
And because they have you so well programmed, you cannot see it.

Your actions in invading others nations is creating an enemy, which is what a corperate military machine desires.

If You are not cowerds, then do what is right and leave those countries now, but You are all too afraid to go against your programmers, they have you cowering in obedience, and you do their biddings.

it is the height of cowardice to do what you know is wrong.

gravitor


The catch is, sparky, I think it's right. And you misspelled "cowards."


Your correct, perhaps I was thinking of herd mentality, such as a pack of hyenas that circle about their prey, because thats what is been demonstrated here on this thread.

Those hyenas usually end up with blood all over themselves, as are American forces now, and that blood is of women and children, cowerds indeed?
gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Yeah I know. He is broken. It is just hard to let idiocy ruin a forum. He belongs in a conspiracy forum not this one.

Also thanks for your service. When were you in?
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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
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Yeah I know. He is broken. It is just hard to let idiocy ruin a forum. He belongs in a conspiacy forum not this one.

Also thanks for your service. When were you in?


Ah well, at least we tried? His 'rebuttals' have gone the way of Gene Ray and his Time Cube




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