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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
Bless the soldiers past and present. Those who fought with honor. Those who left home and family to do what was needed, what was asked. Throughout history, since the beginning of structured warfare, the soldier needed to be trained to think a certain way. A way that would bring about a greater survival rate in combat. To the soldier its US against THEM. Not our policies vs. their policies, our beliefs vs. their beliefs. The combat field, no matter its global location, is place for one thing and one thing only fighting. At it very essence and intention its kill or be killed! No discussions going on between the two sides at the fence line. The decision to proceed or advert was made well before the boots collided on common soil. In some building, with men/women in suits, it was discussed/decided that war would ensue. The soldiers made not that decision. YOUR elected officials did. The people YOU voted into office. To represent you and make decisions on your behalf therein. Regardless if you support the soldiers or not, their existence is what keeps the big bad wolf out of your house and off your door step. The ability to cause a possible invasion to be second thought comes by way of force against force analytic forethought. CAN we beat them. Can we attack them and survive. Can we be matched, sure we can. Can we be matched and have both sides survive? not at all, because of nukes. So lets not go there. Keep it in the air with jets and bombers. Or from the sea with the Navies. Clear a way so that these soldiers can meet face to face. our training against their training. Our weapons and tech against theirs. Our soldiers are trained to fight. Most do it honorably. However war is not a friendly sport of baseball. You lose the game you lose your life. Point blank. So again I bless the soldiers that they will fight honorably, with courage, and with distinction. That who so ever shall go up against us shall remember who they fought. Maintain the brotherhood soldiers. Be different from your civilian brothers because you are. You have a very specific role to play. One that requires your absolute concentration. For the sake of your battle buddy/wing man standing to left and right of you. And when all is said and done return home to your families and friends, and hope they can understand the history of war. That what you go through is nothing new. Same planet. Same enemies. Our fellow humans.



Your post is sickening and depraved, You would have been a fine nazi soldier.

gravitor


Your rhetoric is expected given the history of your post on this given subject. May you live forever worm tongue.


My rhetoric was My abhorance at the "KILL or be KILLED" pig swill rhetoric of Your sub human militaristic filth that YOU posted.

YOUR post fully demonstrated the way that fully left brained young idealistic men are turned into borg like machines that do as they are TOLD.
Thats because they are pathetic.

gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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What exactly do you think the militarys job is I ask you.

We know who the enemy is because we have seen him face to face. We have seen there remains and avoided there bullets. Do you actualy think the suicide bombers are unwilling subjects? Most of them make videos beforehand for there martrydom. What exactly have you done to try to stop any of it? If your answere is nothing you are guilty if not more so than any soldier. The way you talk it seems you are under the impression that corparations are paying them to fight us.

Oh here I go again I am trying to debate a moron. Someone really twisted your thoughts of right and wrong kid.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor
Tangonine,
Glad to converse with someone who isn't goose stepping all over the place.

How can anyone say if these so called suicide bombers were actually carrying a bomb?

WHY if they did would they?


Doesn't the name suicide bomber explain that the person has a bomb??? Because I'm pretty sure if they weren't carrying a bomb no one would be dead... But I'm not sure, maybe you can tell me the definition of a suicide bomber???

Exactly why would these bad guys carry the bomb? Why not go to some random persons house and force, lets say the father of a family of 3 to put on the vest if they refuse why not rape the wife kill her and the son and the father... because I'm pretty sure if you were put in that situation you wouldn't give in to save your family right?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Oh here I go again I am trying to debate a moron. Someone really twisted your thoughts of right and wrong kid.


We need a like button in here hahahahahaha



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
Bless the soldiers past and present. Those who fought with honor. Those who left home and family to do what was needed, what was asked. Throughout history, since the beginning of structured warfare, the soldier needed to be trained to think a certain way. A way that would bring about a greater survival rate in combat. To the soldier its US against THEM. Not our policies vs. their policies, our beliefs vs. their beliefs. The combat field, no matter its global location, is place for one thing and one thing only fighting. At it very essence and intention its kill or be killed! No discussions going on between the two sides at the fence line. The decision to proceed or advert was made well before the boots collided on common soil. In some building, with men/women in suits, it was discussed/decided that war would ensue. The soldiers made not that decision. YOUR elected officials did. The people YOU voted into office. To represent you and make decisions on your behalf therein. Regardless if you support the soldiers or not, their existence is what keeps the big bad wolf out of your house and off your door step. The ability to cause a possible invasion to be second thought comes by way of force against force analytic forethought. CAN we beat them. Can we attack them and survive. Can we be matched, sure we can. Can we be matched and have both sides survive? not at all, because of nukes. So lets not go there. Keep it in the air with jets and bombers. Or from the sea with the Navies. Clear a way so that these soldiers can meet face to face. our training against their training. Our weapons and tech against theirs. Our soldiers are trained to fight. Most do it honorably. However war is not a friendly sport of baseball. You lose the game you lose your life. Point blank. So again I bless the soldiers that they will fight honorably, with courage, and with distinction. That who so ever shall go up against us shall remember who they fought. Maintain the brotherhood soldiers. Be different from your civilian brothers because you are. You have a very specific role to play. One that requires your absolute concentration. For the sake of your battle buddy/wing man standing to left and right of you. And when all is said and done return home to your families and friends, and hope they can understand the history of war. That what you go through is nothing new. Same planet. Same enemies. Our fellow humans.



Your post is sickening and depraved, You would have been a fine nazi soldier.

gravitor


Your rhetoric is expected given the history of your post on this given subject. May you live forever worm tongue.


My rhetoric was My abhorance at the "KILL or be KILLED" pig swill rhetoric of Your sub human militaristic filth that YOU posted.

YOUR post fully demonstrated the way that fully left brained young idealistic men are turned into borg like machines that do as they are TOLD.
Thats because they are pathetic.

gravitor


So your IDEAL country has no military protection from other countries military? Or would your IDEAL country have a military that DOES NOT kill? At any rate any country that has no means to defend will be occupied or destroyed. That has been historically proven.

I will not further engage you in conversational boy. You are highly opinionated and are clearly using this forum as your soap box to push YOUR idea of how ill needed a soldier is. You use phrases such as "borg like machines" and "sub human militaristic filth" that shows you are some what immature all be it with decent vocabulary.

I said what i said and i meant it. BLESS THE SOLDIERS PAST AND PRESENT. That's to include ALL soldiers. Whom have had to deal with crap like yours. There are some people who support good soldiering. Some who could care less about soldiers. An then some who HATE soldiers as i believe you do. Its neither here or there.

This post should be closed. The Original Poster has stated that he/she will no longer be present in this topic.

MODS CLOSE IT please.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by gravitor
 


What exactly do you think the militarys job is I ask you.

We know who the enemy is because we have seen him face to face. We have seen there remains and avoided there bullets. Do you actualy think the suicide bombers are unwilling subjects? Most of them make videos beforehand for there martrydom. What exactly have you done to try to stop any of it? If your answere is nothing you are guilty if not more so than any soldier. The way you talk it seems you are under the impression that corparations are paying them to fight us.

Oh here I go again I am trying to debate a moron. Someone really twisted your thoughts of right and wrong kid.


You keep missing off IMO, thats in My opinion, as thats what You are stating.
I am trying to stop war at every opportunity I have, such as now , debating the subject with You.

I am not lowering myself into the gutter as You do and calling You names, thats a sure sign that You are loosing both Your composiour and temper, which shows poor training, very poor training indeed.

There is no enemy other than those YOU are helping to create by invading their country.
YOU are part of that murderous invasion, the people there are fighting YOU because YOU invaded their country.

Nobody from Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya has invaded AMERICA, in any way.
AMERICA has invaded those counties on a pack of false LIES, and such as YOU have pulled the triggers, when TOLD to.
Thats because IMO You are programmed to do so in Your military traing.
You give up Your human responsibility and become sub human killing machines who think it's the right thing to do.
It is not.

Gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


TISK, TISK.

" Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice" hahaha so this is where you come to attack soldiers!!!! hahaha you clearly are the coward. I'm sure you can find a base near by to enter. Yes that's what you should do. Instead of all the name calling and disrespect from the comfort and safety of your computer behind closed doors. You should take all of that to the nearest base. Walk up to the first soldier you see. And tell him/her that they are "Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice, mind controlled, BORG whom are obedient to some profit mad corporate scum!". Please do so at your earliest.

What say you?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
Bless the soldiers past and present. Those who fought with honor. Those who left home and family to do what was needed, what was asked. Throughout history, since the beginning of structured warfare, the soldier needed to be trained to think a certain way. A way that would bring about a greater survival rate in combat. To the soldier its US against THEM. Not our policies vs. their policies, our beliefs vs. their beliefs. The combat field, no matter its global location, is place for one thing and one thing only fighting. At it very essence and intention its kill or be killed! No discussions going on between the two sides at the fence line. The decision to proceed or advert was made well before the boots collided on common soil. In some building, with men/women in suits, it was discussed/decided that war would ensue. The soldiers made not that decision. YOUR elected officials did. The people YOU voted into office. To represent you and make decisions on your behalf therein. Regardless if you support the soldiers or not, their existence is what keeps the big bad wolf out of your house and off your door step. The ability to cause a possible invasion to be second thought comes by way of force against force analytic forethought. CAN we beat them. Can we attack them and survive. Can we be matched, sure we can. Can we be matched and have both sides survive? not at all, because of nukes. So lets not go there. Keep it in the air with jets and bombers. Or from the sea with the Navies. Clear a way so that these soldiers can meet face to face. our training against their training. Our weapons and tech against theirs. Our soldiers are trained to fight. Most do it honorably. However war is not a friendly sport of baseball. You lose the game you lose your life. Point blank. So again I bless the soldiers that they will fight honorably, with courage, and with distinction. That who so ever shall go up against us shall remember who they fought. Maintain the brotherhood soldiers. Be different from your civilian brothers because you are. You have a very specific role to play. One that requires your absolute concentration. For the sake of your battle buddy/wing man standing to left and right of you. And when all is said and done return home to your families and friends, and hope they can understand the history of war. That what you go through is nothing new. Same planet. Same enemies. Our fellow humans.



Your post is sickening and depraved, You would have been a fine nazi soldier.

gravitor


Your rhetoric is expected given the history of your post on this given subject. May you live forever worm tongue.


My rhetoric was My abhorance at the "KILL or be KILLED" pig swill rhetoric of Your sub human militaristic filth that YOU posted.

YOUR post fully demonstrated the way that fully left brained young idealistic men are turned into borg like machines that do as they are TOLD.
Thats because they are pathetic.

gravitor


So your IDEAL country has no military protection from other countries military? Or would your IDEAL country have a military that DOES NOT kill? At any rate any country that has no means to defend will be occupied or destroyed. That has been historically proven.

I will not further engage you in conversational boy. You are highly opinionated and are clearly using this forum as your soap box to push YOUR idea of how ill needed a soldier is. You use phrases such as "borg like machines" and "sub human militaristic filth" that shows you are some what immature all be it with decent vocabulary.

I said what i said and i meant it. BLESS THE SOLDIERS PAST AND PRESENT. That's to include ALL soldiers. Whom have had to deal with crap like yours. There are some people who support good soldiering. Some who could care less about soldiers. An then some who HATE soldiers as i believe you do. Its neither here or there.

This post should be closed. The Original Poster has stated that he/she will no longer be present in this topic.

MODS CLOSE IT please.



MODS please help , a nasty poster is saying nasty things about us, please stop the thread it is upsetting us.

GROW UP and face some TRUTHS .

This thread is exactly about the consequences of military training, and You are demonstrating the retreat , run run away run.
And then begging the mods to step in and help You, pathetic in the extreme, imo.
gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Portdog31

Originally posted by gravitor

Those been killed by the SO CALLED SUICIDE BOMBERS are MUGS and CANNON FODDER to foster more and more war.
There were no so called insurgents until this imperialistic corperate driven force INVADED these countries.



So the Taliban and Al Qaeda are the good guys right???


No answer to how anyone can possibly know who these so called suicide bombers are actually are, if they exist at all?
Are You going to answer or simply try to divert the thread?
Does someone ask the ghosts of so called suicide bombers who they7 were?
Or is it possible bombs are planted , and then some SPOKES PERSON for NATO invents the suggestion that the explosion was a suicide bomber??
Tell Me how YOU yes YOU have any idea how these bombs are positioned .

Dont try diverting by asking Me garbage diversion questions, either answer or run away.
gravitor


Well, those parades by the families of Palestinian suicide bombers are a pretty good indicator of who they are. Not to mention the friendly people who lobbed mortars at my unit all of the time. Also, our use of biometric data gathering when we either find a weapons cache, or inspect a suicide bomber's remains is a very good indicator of who they are and where they come from.



PALASTINIANS?????
Where have they come from???
Are You saying Palastians are suicide bombers in Afghanistan?


YOU are the terrorist invader, if some similer invaded America I would expect the people of America would fight back??

If You inspect someones remains they cannot tell You WHO put the bomb on them, can they??

gravitor


Aw, you caught me! My and my unit's other dastardly terrorists acts while in country included: giving local children medical care, transporting badly hurt locals whose injuries had nothing to do with conflict (ie a car wreck, etc), getting the Kajacki hydroelectric dam functioning, providing veterinary care for local livestock, and fundraising/gathering/distributing supplies and toys to a local school.

Guess I need to turn myself into the ICJ at The Hague...



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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I'm not saying it isn't traumatic. I have PTSD, depression, and sleep disturbances related to my deployment. It's a normal human reaction, but you are not brain washed. There are methods of instruction featured in books such as On Killing by Dave Grossman (great book, everyone should read it.), but it isn't brainwashing. Most of the enlisted people I served with, including myself, were counting the days down until we got out. We also for the most part had a distrust of authority. Not exactly prime cult material.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


TISK, TISK.

" Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice" hahaha so this is where you come to attack soldiers!!!! hahaha you clearly are the coward. I'm sure you can find a base near by to enter. Yes that's what you should do. Instead of all the name calling and disrespect from the comfort and safety of your computer behind closed doors. You should take all of that to the nearest base. Walk up to the first soldier you see. And tell him/her that they are "Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice, mind controlled, BORG whom are obedient to some profit mad corporate scum!". Please do so at your earliest.

What say you?


I already do at every opportunity, but right now I am here witnessing a bunch of programmed so called military running scared.
I am facing YOU here and now, but You want to divert Me elsewhere.
No chance.

It is fully evident from the slaughter been undertaken in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya, with other targets clearly been primed, that the current military is been USED as MUGS, and as cannon fodder to carry out the agenda/s of a corperate war machine.
I despise all who carry out this , and ALWAYS tell them right to their faces.
Most are young impressionable almost children, who BUY the proppogander been rammed down their throats.

No attack has been made on America other than by those who will profit from the escalation of WAR.
Several posters on here are wonderfully demonstrating how this is achieved .

gravitor



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK
Bless the soldiers past and present. Those who fought with honor. Those who left home and family to do what was needed, what was asked. Throughout history, since the beginning of structured warfare, the soldier needed to be trained to think a certain way. A way that would bring about a greater survival rate in combat. To the soldier its US against THEM. Not our policies vs. their policies, our beliefs vs. their beliefs. The combat field, no matter its global location, is place for one thing and one thing only fighting. At it very essence and intention its kill or be killed! No discussions going on between the two sides at the fence line. The decision to proceed or advert was made well before the boots collided on common soil. In some building, with men/women in suits, it was discussed/decided that war would ensue. The soldiers made not that decision. YOUR elected officials did. The people YOU voted into office. To represent you and make decisions on your behalf therein. Regardless if you support the soldiers or not, their existence is what keeps the big bad wolf out of your house and off your door step. The ability to cause a possible invasion to be second thought comes by way of force against force analytic forethought. CAN we beat them. Can we attack them and survive. Can we be matched, sure we can. Can we be matched and have both sides survive? not at all, because of nukes. So lets not go there. Keep it in the air with jets and bombers. Or from the sea with the Navies. Clear a way so that these soldiers can meet face to face. our training against their training. Our weapons and tech against theirs. Our soldiers are trained to fight. Most do it honorably. However war is not a friendly sport of baseball. You lose the game you lose your life. Point blank. So again I bless the soldiers that they will fight honorably, with courage, and with distinction. That who so ever shall go up against us shall remember who they fought. Maintain the brotherhood soldiers. Be different from your civilian brothers because you are. You have a very specific role to play. One that requires your absolute concentration. For the sake of your battle buddy/wing man standing to left and right of you. And when all is said and done return home to your families and friends, and hope they can understand the history of war. That what you go through is nothing new. Same planet. Same enemies. Our fellow humans.



Your post is sickening and depraved, You would have been a fine nazi soldier.

gravitor


Your rhetoric is expected given the history of your post on this given subject. May you live forever worm tongue.


My rhetoric was My abhorance at the "KILL or be KILLED" pig swill rhetoric of Your sub human militaristic filth that YOU posted.

YOUR post fully demonstrated the way that fully left brained young idealistic men are turned into borg like machines that do as they are TOLD.
Thats because they are pathetic.

gravitor


So your IDEAL country has no military protection from other countries military? Or would your IDEAL country have a military that DOES NOT kill? At any rate any country that has no means to defend will be occupied or destroyed. That has been historically proven.

I will not further engage you in conversational boy. You are highly opinionated and are clearly using this forum as your soap box to push YOUR idea of how ill needed a soldier is. You use phrases such as "borg like machines" and "sub human militaristic filth" that shows you are some what immature all be it with decent vocabulary.

I said what i said and i meant it. BLESS THE SOLDIERS PAST AND PRESENT. That's to include ALL soldiers. Whom have had to deal with crap like yours. There are some people who support good soldiering. Some who could care less about soldiers. An then some who HATE soldiers as i believe you do. Its neither here or there.

This post should be closed. The Original Poster has stated that he/she will no longer be present in this topic.

MODS CLOSE IT please.



MODS please help , a nasty poster is saying nasty things about us, please stop the thread it is upsetting us.

GROW UP and face some TRUTHS .

This thread is exactly about the consequences of military training, and You are demonstrating the retreat , run run away run.
And then begging the mods to step in and help You, pathetic in the extreme, imo.
gravitor



You really need to seek help, young one.
I wish this forum had an age requirement for entry.
Amusing though. Very Amusing.

Our misguided and impressionable youth.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Equidae
reply to post by gravitor
 


That has nothing to do with the military. It has become obvious that you are ignoring our points in favor of your misconceptions, and as a result talking with you is a waste of time.


Run away and hide like a scared chicken.
It must be really frightening to have to look at some good old home truths??

Many people I discuss all of this with are ashamed and fedup of the phoney invented wars, the media pushes constantly how the forces are loved by the people, but this is not so, it is propoganda to bolster the corperate driven for profit murders been carried out by young mugs who know no better.

Run ckicken run and hide.
gravitor


These wars began before I was old enough to vote, so in all actuality the blame lies with you for not spreading the 'truth' to prevent them in the first place. It is the military's job to follow orders, and the electorate to approve the ones who give the orders.



Now where getting down to it.

"It is the militaries job to follow orders"

So if You are TOLD to invade a country you do so, because the military training has You as a inhuman machine that does as it is TOLD.

At last You admit You are a machine like inhuman murderer that does as You are ordered?


Gravitor


and I think if we're discussing inhuman machine-like reactions then you qualify more than I.

I do what I'm told when I'm in because otherwise it's a felony and a very long inprisonment. Again, the military trusts the electorate to vote in the people who will make the right decisions. Part of what makes this a democracy is that the military cannot be involved in political decisions.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


TISK, TISK.

" Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice" hahaha so this is where you come to attack soldiers!!!! hahaha you clearly are the coward. I'm sure you can find a base near by to enter. Yes that's what you should do. Instead of all the name calling and disrespect from the comfort and safety of your computer behind closed doors. You should take all of that to the nearest base. Walk up to the first soldier you see. And tell him/her that they are "Stupid, Pathetic, Cowardice, mind controlled, BORG whom are obedient to some profit mad corporate scum!". Please do so at your earliest.

What say you?


I already do at every opportunity, but right now I am here witnessing a bunch of programmed so called military running scared.
I am facing YOU here and now, but You want to divert Me elsewhere.
No chance.

It is fully evident from the slaughter been undertaken in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya, with other targets clearly been primed, that the current military is been USED as MUGS, and as cannon fodder to carry out the agenda/s of a corperate war machine.
I despise all who carry out this , and ALWAYS tell them right to their faces.
Most are young impressionable almost children, who BUY the proppogander been rammed down their throats.

No attack has been made on America other than by those who will profit from the escalation of WAR.
Several posters on here are wonderfully demonstrating how this is achieved .

gravitor


WAIT>>>!! Are you even in America?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


If you define "programming" as defending what I think is right, then yes, I'm "programmed." And trust me, you don't want to live in a world without me and those like me.

I'm not special. I'm just a guy. I've never shot anyone that wasn't shooting at me. You need to take a step back, for certain. But know this: those of us that risk our lives for inconsiderates like you despise you equally. We hate that you don't have the cajones to defend yourself, and yet you scream, ignorantly, about how we defend you.

You represent the small, spineless people very well. Nothing new. Those of us that place our lives in harm's way have never had to worry that there would be a shortage of people that are thankless. But we still do what we do in spite of you. That's why we're better than you.

You're the coward.
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posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Portdog31
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You know we do have drones flying constantly over Afghanistan and Iraq. We watch these "good guys" of yours plant these bombs and then we shove a hellfire down their throat or raid there house in the early hours of the morning hahaha...

So these guys must definitely not exist...


"Good guys of Yours"

Now You are lying...liar.

I have never called anyone My good guys, do not try to divert this thread with slanderous lies.

You must be so proud blowing up little children in these houses with YOUR "HELLFIRE"
It must make YOU feel big and tough hidden away in Your base?
gravitor


How is he lying? And no, I never really felt all that safe since we got mortared all the time. Very aggravating.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor
Glad to see the military posters showing clearly their PROGRAMMING.
If anyone attacks us....attack them .
Then of course the name calling shows ityself, as thats how YOU have been programmed by your loud mouthed sergeants.

Then when You cannot win the battle RUN, run fast and hide.

What cowards , what pre programmed cowards.

And You are all ever so easy to wind up.

You are cowards that hide away in the military ,where You give up Your humanity , You hand over the responsibility for YOUR inhuman actions by claiming it is not Your decision, but instead blame the politicians or such as Myself the civilians for allowing the politicians to make the decisions...COWARDS.

Make Your own decisions and realise that YOU are been used as MUGS, stupid programmed mugs that ponce about thinking Your special.
They dress You up in stupid uniforms to make You feel special, Your pathetic hiding away within the uniform, same as many police are now doing.

Your not special, You are not KILLING innocent poorly armed rag tag and bobtails freedom fighters on my behalf, or at My request, I despise Your borg like obedience to some profit mad corperate scum.

gravitor


Then please do your job as a citizen by voting in people that won't send us to war



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by PLASIFISK
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Tangonine that guy is a lost cause.
Leave him be. I wrote him off as just another retard clicking buttons on a keyboard.


Agreed. So much for what had previously been an intelligent conversation. It's amazing the patience you acquire by actually having lived in the real world.



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