Piercings and tattoos at work

reply to post by sbctinfantry


Actually I think you're a curmudgeon. I defined that earlier in the thread and said that these people are the most likely to have issues with public confrontations, where ever they go. I've never seen you posting when you were not having one, name calling, and acting out. I've spoke to you in many threads, and it's always the same. Thanks for providing an example in my thread, and some incite into why you are so grumpy. The shoe seems to fit. I'm very sorry that you're a disabled veteran, and in pain, but you are not making me want to discuss anything with you. Get well soon.

p.s. Then maybe we can talk when you're not on enough drugs to knock out a mule team.

A person covered in tattoos could just cover them up with a long sleeve t-shirt if it offends an employer that much.

I don't have any tats/piercings and yet I know many people who do.

If your working at my corporation than you will follow the regulations that I enforce. If I am working for another corporation, I know the rules and regulations and choose to abide by those and keep my job. If you dont follow the regulations, than the corporation has every right to fire you regardless of your opinion because you signed a contract saying you would follow their procedures.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


I have quite an unkempt beard and yet, I've never been threatened by my employer.

I prefer to do things my own way so growing out a beard is kind of a statement for me.

reply to post by The Sword


That describes a lot of people, and a lot of people are willing to just roll over and play dead for employers. We need to be less willing to do that as a society, whether the issue at hand be piercings, or whatever. The only reason that they do this, is because we allow it and keep signing those contracts. If employers that had lax dress codes were using that as a hiring point, I know people would flock to those corporations for jobs. Even if the job wasn't the most glamorous of jobs.

I know that my job is pretty lax for a corporate setting, undoubtedly because they are not American owned, and we always fill positions quickly. In fact, we're operating at 110% capacity. Maybe these conservatives could learn a thing or two from the Germans?

reply to post by Evolutionsend


I think people should think more before they get certain tattoos/piercings then.

It used to be that those who wanted to be unique expressed themselves through body art and metal.

Nowadays, almost everyone has a tat or piercing. It's not unique anymore.

And I say this nicely because I am thinking about getting a tattoo on my arm.

Real respect is when you look at a person, and you know that they're better than you. Someone worth noticing, and someone worth considering.

reply to post by Evolutionsend

Your definition of respect sounds more like submission to me. Real respect for others is only possible if you have it for yourself. If you look at others and know that you are equals, that no one is better than anyone else (despite tattoos, piercings, weight, dress etc), you have mutual respect rather than domination because someone is better than someone else.

You sound pretty dynamic and motivated!
I hope you can establish your own business!

reply to post by DaughterOfARevolver


Leave the poor fat guy on the scooter alone. You're doing exactly what you don't want done to you. The fat guy will probably have a hard time losing weight...all you gotta do is take the piercing out. Bottom line is it's not nice to stare at anyone.

Damn first time i've read a whole thread this long in awhile.

First i just wanted to say OP is sexy and lives near dc, which i do too *wink*

On topic however...
I was in the same boat years ago when i started my first job. I had long hair, gauged ears, snake bites, no tats (not my thing), but i was a hard worker. I knew going in i might need to change, but that's why i stuck with piercings. Well with some people it was ok, some it was bad. Needless to say, eventually i lost the lip rings because it was such a pain in the ass to take them in and out every day. I have some freak vampire skin that seems to regenerate small wounds quickly. Generally within 8 hours it would be closing and i'd have to jam them back in, which sucked, so i finally took them out.

Now i have a much better job, still have my long hair and gauged ears, but if my boss asked me to change i would.
Why?

Because (yeah i'm starting a sentence with because, deal with it) that's hypocritical as #. If i said its my right to have tats or piercings, then i'd be denying their right to pick who they want to work with and what they want their company image to be, its not my right to make their decisions.

I do believe like some said, this will change soon. Not the whole rights thing but people's perspective. I've notices all my friends and people my age, don't give a #. It just doesn't matter to them, they pick the most qualified person no matter what. My customers don't care that i have long hair or piercings, actually i generally get complimented. (i rock it like a bawse) I think as i belive OP said earlier, most of the issues stem from older people, because "in thur day" it was different.

I live in a redneck town, its all just about how people are raised and what they believe is right. I'd say just accept it for now, there isn't much we can do, but i assure you the next generation won't have to deal with this. People these days are changing, they accept others for who they are, not what they look like.

Think about in the 60s, people were still griping about the blacks. Then people started griping about long haired boys because they were hippies, so on and so forth, but now things are changing. Most guys i know have long hair than short hair. No one cares if your black, white or asian, its all just changing.

Long story short - I feel employers have to right to do what they want. I feel the major issue with the tats / piercings are because of the elder generation who think its weird, or don't understand why people have them. I also assume in the next 20 years people won't care and this will not be an issue. (if it doesn't hit the fan by then)

reply to post by Evolutionsend

While I believe it is an individuals right to do with their body as they deem appropriate, I consider Tattoos and Excessive Piercing (Beyond a few holes for earrings) to be Self Mutilation and a sign of Self Loathing. When I was in the Marines, just after Boot Camp many went into San Diego to get a Tattoo but I didn't, although it made some sense to have a tattoo commemorating Marine Corp Service and there are some cases of membership in some group being tattooed in a hidden place. However, I didn't because in my family it was common knowledge that tattoos were for slaves, as was the case for our slaves in the 16-17th Century and of course for identification on prized farm/ranch animals.

Bottom-line, many of you are descendants of Slaves/Bond Slaves and Serfs; are unattractive and/or have some reason you feel marking your bodies and this is your business but if you expect to work for me dealing with the public, there is a point of going too far and while I won't fore someone over over-doing it, you won't be representing me and my company but, go ahead, don't roll over, don't treat your body like it is a alter before God; if your Godless, why bother but I suspect Lucifer loves tattoos and ring and studs all over your body and if your a Sexual Deviant, why not let everybody know; they will look wonderful to your Grandchildren.

Now, I have said my opinion lightly but allow me to go on to drive a point home; tattoos are for Animals. Rings in your nose and mouth are for Animals and that is how I view such people.

I can tell you many of the Elites I know and of course Law Enforcement love your tattoos.

reply to post by RainbeauBleu


I may be having trouble putting into words what I mean.

"You can take away everything a truly respectable person has, their wealth, their station in life, and even try to trash their character, but in the end they've still got respect from everyone they meet."- Me

Someone that fits that description to me, is someone worthy of my respect.

reply to post by MajorKarma


i don't know if you actually read a single post in this thread,
but maybe you should befoooore you start talking ridiculous smack.

slave marks? self mutilation? for animals? yeaah

ETA: "alter before god"? i hate it when people trot this out.
like no altar, no temple you've ever seen has no decoration.

It should come down to property rights. The owner-management of said company has the right to enforce a dress code. If they say no jeans, no tennis shoes, no baseball caps, no logo'd shirts, etc.. they can certainly say no visible tattoos and no facial piercings. They could extend that to customers and/or visitors.

You work for them, it's not your right to be employed by them but rather your privilege. You do however have the right to walk out the door and find a more accepting employer.

If you're a customer, you have the right not to purchase from or conduct business with said company.

Property rights really mean "it's my way or the highway".

There's probably some worker's advocacy group that you could file a complaint with, and they'd go after the owner's property rights with some socialistic constitution-eroding lawsuit.


edit: The employer could also say "you must have at least one tattoo and/or one facial piercing to be employed here". I'm not against tattoos or piercings, but am pro-property rights.

Depends on what the industry is

As someone whom deals with customers, its a no go because its ugly, stupid, and/or inapproprate...this is fine, remove the nose bullring, cover the big naked chick tat on your arm, etc.

If your working in some mine somewhere or talking on the telephone, never to see the light of day, then those places are less strict.

Also, keep in mind when you go on a interview/job, you are being judged by a prude that has the power to eliminate you getting paid..always consider that to be a case and act appropriately until you know the ropes

reply to post by primus2012

edit: The employer could also say "you must have at least one tattoo and/or one facial piercing to be employed here". I'm not against tattoos or piercings, but am pro-property rights.

GREAT POINT!

Never trust a bald barber.
Never eat something from a skinny chef.
If you're looking for a great painter, probably shouldn't do the drug test, you'll eliminate your best candidates!
If you're selling body art, maybe you ought to have some, etc., etc.

I said earlier, as a kid, my Pediatrician had some of the typical old school Navy tattoos, but he was a military doc for years, so it actually aided his credibility. If I went into the ER and some 22 yr old punk with a baby face and tats treated me, he would look like a poser, and I would question his credibility.

Time and place for everything.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


Actually my work embraces it. I am a musician and I have my piercings and tatoo work, but I actually manage in an office setting. One day my ceo pulled me into his office and told me he was promoting everyone in the company with an eyebrow piercing. lol. I think they like how it shows people you can't judge a book by it's cover as I am sometimes the first person they see in training. But at the same time I am aware that some people have problems with it. Funny thing is I never EVER think about it. Nobody ever gives me a hard time about it really. I notice dirty looks from old ladies and stuff like that, but you gotta remember they are from a completely different era. I'm sure one day when we are old and angry we'll hate everything different as well.

My job is fine with my tattoo/piercings. I wouldn't work for anyone who is opposed to them. They can find their aryan employees elsewhere.

reply to post by The_Zomar


Why does it have to equate to an Aryan thing? Ever seen a member of the Aryan Brotherhood? I think they are an example of "x amount of in-poor-taste tattoos required for membership".

Originally posted by Evolutionsend

Actually I think you're a curmudgeon. I defined that earlier in the thread and said that these people are the most likely to have issues with public confrontations, where ever they go. I've never seen you posting when you were not having one, name calling, and acting out. I've spoke to you in many threads, and it's always the same. Thanks for providing an example in my thread, and some incite into why you are so grumpy. The shoe seems to fit. I'm very sorry that you're a disabled veteran, and in pain, but you are not making me want to discuss anything with you. Get well soon.

p.s. Then maybe we can talk when you're not on enough drugs to knock out a mule team.

Gray hair isn't begging a description like that. I'm a little frosted but hardly ill-tempered or old. It's pretty telling that you linked the defenition. If you have read my posts you would know I have a substantial vocabulary and at least the small cunning it would require to look up a word I didn't know. I haven't read your posts ( as I am aware ) which leads me to believe you didn't know the word, or read my posts, so way to be resourceful ).

P.s. I actually like the gray, it's subtle and adds texture, then again I keep my hair short so you couldn't tell unless you're close. I'm actually sorry for the way I behaved anyway, even though your thread still belongs in OT I think, but a lot of mine end up 404 binned so what does it matter anyway?

Also, piercings on the face are not sanitary and thus frowned upon by businesses. I don't care how clean yours is or isn't, it's policy for a really good reason. I won't shake most hands because people don't wash properly unless I have some hand sanitizer and if they're not washing their hands regularly then I garun.tee they are soaking the metal and cleaning it or their face.

uin the work i have right now, i can have tats and piercings with no problem, i was planning to get my first two tats in december... but now there's another job opportunity that's way better but I cannot have any (visible) tattoo, and i'll need to wear a skirt all time... and i want to have them on my ankles (twin wings, Hermes related).

if i get the job, well, i'll get them later =/...