We really ARE alone ("Aliens" are not "E.T's" they are "E.D's")

It just boils down to don't believe everything you see on television, or read in a book. I trust what I can piece together, and what can be proven by multiple empirical non biased sources. Aliens are a decoy to what the government's really up to, high tech weapons development. All that Jesus stuff is just a tool of control. Religion has always been a tool of control. Just depends who's using it.

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Well the works of Shakespeare, Plato, and whoever else you mentioned are a little bit easier to track the authors and records. Have you any idea how many times the bible has been altered from its original meaning over the centuries? How many times has it had books removed from it because churches didn't see them in a good light the way THEY wanted their religion to be. Shakespeares works are more or less the same, the balcony scene in Romeo & Juliet is still there. I believe those people existed because there's a distinct history that we can trace back to them confidently, not some hokum that's been mutilated by years of religious nuts.

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Ronald regan made a public speech also stating an outside extraterrestrial threat would unite humanity.

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Again, the problem with this continuing argument is that it nearly always boils down to people making unwarranted assumptions, the biggest one being that time is somehow linear and that things naturally progress from a "beginning" to the "present," and into the "future."

It's all the same thing, folks. Time is not like a river. Time is like a color or temperature. Things are constantly flowing around it in multiple dimensions, with things in the "future" influencing and directing things in the "past," just as much as vice-versa. Living systems, along with thoughts and concepts, evolve according to what are essentially backward reflections of what they will be as much as what they are or have been.

People get so wrapped up in their beliefs about how things started. Well, guess what? There most likely was/is no start or end. It was and will always just "be." Everything else is something we only made up in our heads.

But your falling into your own trap. Your making the same assumptions your berating others for. Why do you assume time "flows in multiple dimensions"? What does that even mean? If your trying to take a string theory or multiverse theory approach to this discussion, you do of course realize these theories havent been proven either, thereby making your arguement assumptions as well.

What exactly is your point?

The same logic which grants the possibility of extra-terrestrial life, grants the possibility for the existence of a Supernal such as Christ, or any one of the other currently "faith" worshiped Supernatural/alien/demon/angel/alter-dimensional...(consciousness foci).
eta:"and their heavens/hells."

The Tautological formula for this realization is thus:
______________________________________________________________________________

A)If in this universe all forms, combinations and compilations of thought/quanta are possible...

+)and...

B)If in this universe time as a constant of consciousness is truly eternal...

=)then...

C)In time, all forms, combinations and compilations of quanta are possible...



Simply put, "in time...anything is possible..."

Even time travel...

...

Chew on that for a few minutes...


Maybe we were first in the universe, and all this stuff is coming to us from a future where it "does" exist?
Maybe some of it has traveled back to our present or past...?!?

I think at some point technology (has already, or will) merge into the supernatural like realms...

Time and reality as you and I know it now, may become much less concrete, and more subject to individual/group will.

It's only here in the very beginnings that everything is soo damned tantalizingly real that it's painful...

Originally posted by Foxy1
Ronald Reagan made a public speech also stating an outside extraterrestrial threat would unite humanity.

edit on 9-11-2011 by Foxy1 because: spelling

Well, he was wrong. Extraterrestrials show up, and half of us will roll over and want them to be our leaders, half of us will want to fight them, and another half will want to save their poor heathen alien souls by selling them Bibles at a reasonable price. Oh, and drugs.

Humanity has never come to a complete agreement on anything, and aliens ain't gonna do it, either.

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What does any of this have to do with E.D? Is Viagra an alien plot?

Originally posted by nightbringr
What exactly is your point?

The point is that it's easy to make up words and argue about them even though you don't exactly know what they mean. Words like "time" and "God" and "life." It all boils down to semantic games, where nothing can or will be accomplished.

What's your "point?"

And many would deny the existance of GOD.... What does it take to believe? A lightning bolt striking square in the butt? I choose to believe. nuf'said.

Is this is yet another thread about aliens having demonic origins?

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Foxy1
Ronald Reagan made a public speech also stating an outside extraterrestrial threat would unite humanity.

edit on 9-11-2011 by Foxy1 because: spelling

Well, he was wrong. Extraterrestrials show up, and half of us will roll over and want them to be our leaders, half of us will want to fight them, and another half will want to save their poor heathen alien souls by selling them Bibles at a reasonable price. Oh, and drugs.

Humanity has never come to a complete agreement on anything, and aliens ain't gonna do it, either.

Interesting perspective brah. Makes ya wonder why aliens wouldn't stay as far away from us as possible. We'd be a pretty bad influence on their lives/culture.

Originally posted by stainlesssteelrat
Is this is yet another thread about aliens having demonic origins?

That's kind of what it turned into. Demons = aliens, apparently. I wouldn't know, because I've never experienced either of them enough (or at all) to make a reasonable comparison. Only dubious stories.

Why not occupy Area 51 so we kill 2 birds with one stone...

Originally posted by xlb40
Interesting perspective brah. Makes ya wonder why aliens wouldn't stay as far away from us as possible. We'd be a pretty bad influence on their lives/culture.

Oh, come on. Humanity is awesome! Really! I mean, look at us compared to other forms of life like termites or chipmunks or something. Talk about boring and dull. We are so incredibly complex and interesting that any alien should consider itself lucky to get the chance to hang with us.

Think we might be too real for them? Hey, man, that's their problem!

Originally posted by Foxy1
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Ronald regan made a public speech also stating an outside extraterrestrial threat would unite humanity.

edit on 9-11-2011 by Foxy1 because: spelling

Ronald Reagan was a senile old movie star. He probably saw one too many old science fiction movies. Besides, missile defense was a big industry then during the cold war. Lotta money involved, people getting jobs. Good for certain people's big businesses to have the public support things like the Star Wars SDI program. Keeps the money flowing.

Yea, I don't subscribe to the video's views. Sounds like they are just promoting a book on the subject.

I have always looked at space as a incredibly vast desert, with a uncommon oasis planet holding life. Earth, being such an oasis.

Does that mean there is only ONE earth holding all life in the known universe? I think not! We are separated by incredibly unfathomable distances but the odds themselves make me believe there are thousands if not millions of life bearing worlds. We just each exist in a state of isolation, physically and technologically, and I think it is arrogant to think we are the only beings out there worth a damn.

Do you think ants are aware of planes flying overhead? Do they go about farming, raising families, making war on their neighbors.... are they able to grasp the vast space about them? If there are races millions of years more evolved then us technology wise, wouldn't we just be the ants to them?

Religion is fake. Science is fake. You should read the ancient alien hypthesis to understand how humans on earth came to be and how they have been controlled by the babylonian brotherhood since the great flood.

The kings/queens of earth are pawns of the annukaki/giants.

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by nightbringr
What exactly is your point?

The point is that it's easy to make up words and argue about them even though you don't exactly know what they mean. Words like "time" and "God" and "life." It all boils down to semantic games, where nothing can or will be accomplished.

What's your "point?"

My point was that your argueing against people making up things, all the while doing it yourself. Go back and read the rest of my post to you, and you will understand.

Originally posted by nightbringr
My point was that your argueing against people making up things, all the while doing it yourself. Go back and read the rest of my post to you, and you will understand.

I believe you're doing the same thing, yourself. But I don't think you understand that.

Originally posted by Plotus
And many would deny the existance of GOD.... What does it take to believe? [...] I choose to believe.

Could you be a little more specific about what you believe in? I've discovered that a lot of people say they believe in "God," but aren't really sure what it is they believe in, and certainly can't define it. What a lot of people end up describing is a kind of feeling they get when they think about infinity, existence without them, stuff like that. God as a feeling. Not much like the busy, often brutal, and very demon-like supernatural entity described in the Bible.

What exactly are you talking about? The feeling, or the demon?