We really ARE alone ("Aliens" are not "E.T's" they are "E.D's")

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


The official statement from Nov 7th can be PROVEN a lie, as the government repeatedly stated that the closing of Project Blue Book concluded their interest and investigation into the UFO phenomenon, whereas it is now a matter of historical fact that there were several other investigations (behind closed doors), such as the Condon Committee, etc., so these were in fact "hidden from the view of the public".

Therefore, one cannot take the statement as truth, as it has already been PROVEN false. It is a lie right out of the gate.

reply to post by mOjOm


Damn i agree.

I swear Christians are THE MOST Arrogant and Gullible people on the planet. And if you disagree with them they say that you'll burn for it. Very nice.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration

Excellent post and subject...Star and Flag.

I have long believed that the SciFi story of ETs is just that. That said, it cannot be denied that there indeed are entities that are present on our planet that are not human. These entities, as you suggest, are Extra Deminsional in nature and are masquerading as ETs to deceive the entire world.

I recently read an excellent book by the well known paranormal author Nick Redfern, FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife . It should be pointed out that Mr Redfern is not a "Christian author" with a point to be made but a well regarded author that has written of many paranormal experiences including UFOs. He makes the case for considering the Extra Deminsional consideration.

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320848972&sr=1-1#_

Mr Redfern was interviewed by George Knapp about this book...

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by thegagefather

 

I have historical evidence all you have is a news article.

Please! Let us all see your "historical evidence?" History is always written by the victors, and in early times, with the power of the Roman Army, armed with the sword, the Church was the truth, or else you died horribly. I really don't think you know the history of your religion, or your Bible every well at all. I think rather you are grasping at straws trying to get all of us to join your cult, for some unknown reason.

Can you address the following?

Many biblical passages imply that Yahweh physically consumed his meat offerings unlike the "fake" gods of other cultures. The Bible is very specific that Yahweh wanted salt on his meat as well, suggesting these offereing were physically consumed and not merely burned to ashes.
Please explain why Yahweh ate human beings, such as Arron's sons?
The preferred prey of dragons in most cultures are "human virgins" for reasons which are not entirely understood. This trait is very apparent in the Bible as well, where Moses presents Yahweh with 32 Midianite virgins after the Israelite destruction of this tribe. No more is said of them so we can only assume they were "consumed" like Aaron's sons. Care to explain the cannibalistic ways of your God?

How about this one? When the biblical God said he created the recognizable universe in six days he was off by at least twelve billion years. How do you explain the discrepancy here?

Virtually every human civilization in the Middle East, before and through Biblical times, practiced some form of female Goddess worship. Archeologists have confirmed that the earliest law, government, medicine, agriculture, architecture, metallurgy, wheeled vehicles, ceramics, textiles and written language had initially developed in societies that worshiped the Goddess. Even Allah is a feminine name. Do you wish to tell me just how the Church was able to stamp out all of the Goddess worship? By the way, they didn't stamp out anything. Many today worship a Goddess figure.

The Old Testament consists of a body of literature spread over a period from approximately 1450 B.C.E. to 200 B.C.E. There exists no original writings of the Old Testament. So how do you propose to post "historical documents" if in fact there are none?

Having studied the Kabbalah for many years, I know that "YHVH," whom you call "God," is nothing more than a system of Jewish magick. "YHVH" known as the "Tetragammaton," represents the four corners and four elements, as does "INRI" along with the four gospels; these represent the four corners of Magick and the four elements that are so important in any Magickal working. "YHVH" is used extensively in (Jewish) magick. The Jews stole the Kabalah from the Egyptians and corrupted it. It is mainly chanted- "Yod Heh Vau Heh" in different combinations. See The Key of Solomon
Jewish Alchemy: the Kabbalah

Here is some history for you to ponder on.

Spacecraft and Extraterrestrials in the Bible and History

ALIENS IN THE QURAN

UFO's In Earth's History

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


I'm sorry but I just don't get it. I am an experiencer and I know for sure they ARE in fact what you say they are.. I agree they are extra-dimensional. BUT they can and do manifest a body. They may or may not live in the fourth or fifth dimensions we have no way of knowing just yet. But you are assuming that is where they live right? What if they are squatting on a rouge planet we don't know about? or what if they are living on the moon?

Look man I believe that the Aliens are the same beings we find in ancient texts referred to as Angels. But I still don't get why you need to make a claim that you know for a fact that they don't live on some other planet? That's what your saying in not so many words right? And you don't know that. It's your religious programming at work trying to justify everything is it not? I should know I'm a believer in Yeshua and I have been an abductee all my life. Would I claim to know for sure were they live? No way...

And finally I consider them E.T.s regardless what you say or what your religious mind wants to try to think of them as ...They are not from EARTH buddy therefor they are Aliens to us period. Deal with it... they are E.T.'s and they are E.D's BOTH!

Some self-proclaimed Christians are in denial over anything that would portray their God in a bad light or cast doubt in their Creator, therefore; the idea that aliens are demons that exist in another dimension tied cleverly to the history, as portrayed in the organized superstition called religion, is nothing more than a convenient measure of control.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Not trying to start a flame war here, but Im pretty sure that the reason you think this is because of your religon, so I will talk in religous terms.

GOD made earth and all of its inhabitants, yes?
GOD also made every other planet in the universe. yes?
So, in all of the infinite universe, you say that we are the ONLY planet that has life.
The thing is, truly ANYTHING is possible in the universe because:

INFINITE TIME X INFINITE SPACE = INFINITE POSSIBLITIES

It is illogical to deny the existance of e.t's.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Here is the official government statement on the existence of alien life from Nov 7/2011:

"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race," Phil Larson from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy reported on the WhiteHouse.gov website."In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public’s eye."

So in spite of the voluminous works of fiction and billions of dollars spent looking for alien life not only have they never found any but, according to the WH, they have never found any trace of evidence to support the existence of life other than our own, special, unique planet

P.S I am not saying their is not a real UFO phenomenon going on or that people haven't experienced abductions, or that we should trust the government... But from my research and many others these things are certainly NOT extraterrestrial. If anything they are extra-dimensional beings, if you wan't to find out what these things really are I suggest you research the work of a man named "L.A. Marzulli". Marzulli has interviewed people who have direct contact with UFOs, cattle mutilations, alien implants, abductions and more. It shouldn't be hard to find his work on the web.

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Ah yes in 2011, we Mankind think we are Gods,and can proclaim to the WORLD that we are the center of the Universe..

Freaking ATS pedigree right here...

Ignorance...

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by tbonedude

 

I believe GOD created the earth in 6 days and rested on the seventh. And I believe the earth is roughly 6000 years old give or take.

6000 years old? Give us a break! I have a rock older that that. And how about the Sphinx? Is the Sphinx older than 6,000 years? I, for one, believe it is. Let's look at the Giza Plateau. The relationship of the three Giza pyramids & the Nile to the stars of Orion's Belt is exact - provided you 'wind back the clock' to circa 10,400BC. The pattern of temples at Ankor Wat makes a match for the layout of the constellation Draco - provided you 'wind back the clock' to circa 10,400 BC. You are totally wrong about the 600 year age of Earth, I would say Earth is some 4.7 billion years old. What is only 6000 years old is the Christian religion. There was live before that, friend.

reply to post by autowrench


I take he also thinks that dinosaurs and fossils where put here by the devil to test mans faith eh?
And all those prehistoric structures.. those where put here by the devil too?

Some people are just so.... stupid.

LOL @ god squad

"Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities. Those numbers are probably a very conservative estimate because we have no accurate information before 4000 B.C."

Read more: wiki.answers.com...

Originally posted by Unvarnished
reply to post by neobludragon

 

We really do need an intergalactic war to happen, for once it will test us on how well we could unite with one another.

In my opinion, this is like a colony of ants saying, "I'm sure hoping those exterminators show up today, it'll really test our resolve and unify us!" Meanwhile, I walk up with a sprayer and unload ant poison on the hill and they all run inside to unite. Then they all die.

If there are civilizations capable of intergalactic warfare, then surely we have no chance against them and we would be like the ants in the anthill that really have nowhere else to go when they show up to wipe us out.

I can't see how being involved in an intergalactic war would be beneficial to us since we can't even benefit from international war.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


You come up with all this complex reasoning, and at the same time, deny logic. Believe what you want, and keep telling others of your truth, for on your last day, realization's gonna slap you in the face!

You started down a path, and now that same path is resricting your life's possibilities.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Shouldn't a Religion oriented person such as yourself be putting a POSITIVE MESSAGE OUT THERE?

One that will help others if these so called Alien Demons are Real???????????

I don't think you believe what you've written...

You have simply choosen a stance that you know will upset people (generate frustration) and get you the stars and flags you desire...Are Flags and Stars a measure of Wealth in your religion?

Originally posted by kingofmd
Giving examples of Catholic stupidity throughout history does not disprove the fact that the Bible is the inspired, authoritative Word of God. Nor citing examples of the pope's stupidity. Catholocism stands alone, and will have to answer for its trashing of the Gospel. Fact of the matter is there is no proof whatsoever that beings from another planet exist. What you are displaying is what you often accuse Christians of, which is "blind faith". Difference is in the Christians case, our faith comes through evidence. If you watched the OPs 1st video, something should scream at your conscience and tell you life doesn't just happen randomly. All you have to prove your sacred cow of aliens is crappy blurred footage of lights moving around, persons that are duped in that they are channeling alien entities, and the 'hope' that life can spontaneously form. UFOs are UNIDENTIFIED, so they don't prove anything. I guess I shouldn't expect any less from persons that believe "scientists" can find a tooth in the sand, and a week later create a Discovery channel special about a previously unknown society and culture and mating habits of the unknown owner of the tooth. For shame

Can you point at someone and say that it's God/Jesus?

No? Then hereby i declare god to be an U(nidentified) F(antasy) O(verlord) !

If there would be PROOF of god's existance we wouldn't be argueing it.

reply to post by thegagefather

Nothing here has been off-topic. You gave us a topic and we've chosen to reply the way we have because you have failed to provide any evidence of what you claim. You just simply claim that there is evidence and historical context, but don't provide any. You can make any thread you want, that's true... But if you don't want to hear the opinions of the people whom you feed your ideas to, YOU, sir, are not obliged to be here.

I fully agree, thegagefather, a star for you for saying that. RevelationGeneration began another thread not long ago too, purporting to show that Wicca and Witchcraft was evil, and claimed then to "have historical evidence," but then said, "I haven't been a Christian for long." Then abandoned the thread. If this thread becomes to heated, and RG cannot have his way, he will leave this one also. Bet on it.

My take is, RG is a very young man, one who is pretty confused at this time, and needs something to believe in so bad he will grab at anything. His wild claims of being in possession of these "historical documents" is wishful thinking, nothing more. If anyone actually had this proof, then it would be mainstream. RG thinks there is only one Bible, and no doubt God wrote it himself, in English, and that book contains all of the truth and proof in the whole whole world, and anyone not belonging to the Cult of Christianity. Oh, not a cult, you say? Probably, you would say that members of a cult have lost the ability to think for themselves. They abandon rational, critical thinking. (Most normal people would not accept the idea of salvation in the tail of a comet.) Now, consider the claims of the Bible- walking on water, parting of the Red Sea, sticks to snakes, Jonah and the whale, Noah and the Ark, etc. Do people accept these things without question or critical thinking? They most certainly do! You would probably say that they do not have any thoughts that are different from their leadership. Now, do most Christians hold wildly different viewpoints from their leaders? I say No. You would also say that they do not question what their leaders say, and are willing to do ANYTHING they are told to do for salvation, including the killing of others, or themselves....right?
You would say that they deeply and sincerely believe that they have found the truth, and that they are strongly defensive when they are confronted on areas of their beliefs. This statement applies exactly to all Christians. Also, you know that people who are in cults always deny that they are in a cult...

That being said, as thegagefather said so aptly, this is an open forum. Whatever you post will be attacked by some. There are people here who are a lot more well read, and more intelligent than you are. One thing really stands out here, RG, your profile shows you have 47 foes, or enemies in this forum. I also see you registered on April 7, 2011. How does one, in just 7 months, get so many foes? I have been here since June 13, 2008, and I have only three rivals. Are you here just to make enemies? I am not your enemy, nor your foe. I, like some others, am trying to educate you. You are living in a very small box of information, it is time to come out.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration

I believe you stated that:

If they are "fairy tales" then why would the heads of state worship Lucifer?

I asked if you knew heads of State, you never replied. You also said:

I know aliens being really demons in disguise is a scary thought but this is the truth, in fact I find it less scary now that I understand what they truly are.

Others in here tried that tactic also, but got nowhere with it. You say it like you have proof.

You said:

I would suggest that the evidence dictates that they not from other planets, but rather from the The Spiritual Plane.

Show us the evidence?

"The Anthropic Principle" proves their is no life outside of earth.

The "Drake Equation" proves there is.

You realize there is only one true and living God, yet He has expressed Himself in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

How do you explain the thousands of others God in history, and even in the Bible?

There is no proof of evolution

See, RG? You post for us all of these "facts," that you, and only you know, and say you have proof of this, but never show us the proof, because it is all in your head.

Originally posted by HumanoidX
reply to post by RevelationGeneration

 

Shouldn't a Religion oriented person such as yourself be putting a POSITIVE MESSAGE OUT THERE?

One that will help others if these so called Alien Demons are Real???????????

I don't think you believe what you've written...

You have simply choosen a stance that you know will upset people (generate frustration) and get you the stars and flags you desire...Are Flags and Stars a measure of Wealth in your religion?

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This person has posted I don't know how many of these threads... I bet 85% of memebers think this is simply Ridiculous. The argument is really weak.

reply to post by DogsNGods


Huh? Man who has been feeding you these canned answers? Did that come right out of the NWO handbook or something? This subject has nothing to do with control in the way your implying..

No it's more like a huge semantics debacle and I will say this... I do wish Christians would stop calling Aliens demons and so on although most of both can be pretty nasty to deal with(yes i know by experience). The truth is they are two different things.

The Aliens are many groups and offshoots of the genetic tampering they have done with themselves and us for God knows how long.. Long ago people called them Angels..if you call them Aliens I don't really care I call them Aliens myself. "Extra-dimensional aliens" to be exact.

The Demons came out of the hybrid beings ...

...that existed around the time of Noah the hybrids were part E.T. and part human, they have and are still pressing towards creating a being that is fully E.T. and fully man. It's so very hard to explain the concept behind the actual amount of charge that builds up if one lives a life of love and forgiveness so much charge in fact you can escape the magnetosphere of earth and merge on into higher realms so to speak.(I'm trying to keep it simple). The problem is when these hybrids died they didn't have a positive charge at all and around 6 billion of them are trapped as spirits here on earth. They want to use peoples body's to have experience again as they did while there were alive. One day this will all come to a stop though.. soon.. very soon.

So the point is "Aliens" and "Demons" are 2 different things. Get it? So what were you spewing about control again?

reply to post by Zeer0


You just have not met a believer that has dropped religion.. It would be my guess you don't understand that there is a huge difference in being religious and being spiritual. It just so happens that modern day Christians are doing many things that Christ tried to convey you didn't have to do if that makes any sense.

There are some out there that won't try and beat you over the head with a bible and all that ya know? Some may even have a very deep understanding of just were science and our creator merge in our paradigm. You just most likely have not met one yet... sadly.