Mass. School district to close tuesday for ISLAMIC holiday?!

I can't believe that actual Americans would side with this.

Have you people forgotten what radicals from their religon have been doing to our people for the past 20 years? I don't know about you, but I'm not the one to take slaps in the face and then freely give up my house and food. Oh, but you say it is a crisis when American's occupy their land; it is a crisis when one of their kind is not accepted into the victim's society.

Did the Founding Fathers invoke freedom and accept European nationalist and Red Coats on United States soil because they "wanted to be nice and social acceptable to others"? No, America kicked their a** out! What would Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, TR, or FDR think if they knew a foregin enemy who has stated and shown that they want to destory the United States was living and recieving benifets from Americans because it is the "nice thing to do"? How long will it last? Until all of Southern United States is Mexico 2.0? Until all of the East Coast is Japan 2.0? Until all of the West and Northern coast is Africa 2.0? Until all of the US is just one huge melting pot of bitterness and disagreements between races and religons? Until people are fighitng in the streets because immigrants want to enfore their laws, their rules, and their regulations, when they have their own country that they can go back to? It's the future folks!

People, you must understand that US freedom is intended for the US!!



EDIT: Oh, and just to clarify: I have been over to Turkey, Libya and various other small middle eastern countries. And, as a United States citizen, I was basically denied everything. If you thought Jim Crow laws were bad, you havent seen anything. Walk into a restraunt and the whole place stares, not an annoyed, confused stare, but the type of stare that has you worried that all 20 of these faces are about to jump on me. I had hoards people spitting at my feet, walking right into me, and telling me how much of a disgrace my family was for being Americans. They won't repay the favor of all the freedoms they are given if they come live over here. I garuntee that people like this are living in parts of the US today.

ACK! Just let the kids have a day off. Relax.

reply to post by Chalupas

People, you must understand that US freedom is intended for the US!!

and for U.S. citizens! yes!

oh, wait - you got a different handbook than I got - didn't you?

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


Not all citizens deserve all the benifets. That is a classic historical mistake. Rome fell the moment she started giving foreigners and their families all the rights that natural born citizens had.

reply to post by Chalupas


Because U.S. citizens are inherently superior?

What is it - the soil? The water? Our DNA?

Maybe xenophobia and a lack of social skills is what really brought Rome to it's knees

and just so you know - I'm expecting a real answer - how does being born here make us special?

Originally posted by relpobre000
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

I think the fact that America is supposed to be a melting pot of culture is what makes it wonderful.

That is actually a lie. America isn't supposed to be anything other than what we the American citizenry want it to be. The simple fact is the politicians lied when they passed the 1965 immigration reforms. What is happening now is a form of genocide as recognized by the UN. We are being ethnically cleansed from our own nation, denied the basic right to self determination.

In fact what makes a country great is it's people, as that is all a nation truly is. By inviting "not so great peoples" into our republic, we will only make our republic not so great.

reply to post by AllUrChips


This is crap.

It is what you get when you move the enemy in.

reply to post by korathin

What is happening now is a form of genocide as recognized by the UN. We are being ethnically cleansed from our own nation, denied the basic right to self determination.

which ethnicity is being ethnically cleansed?

no - really - this ought to be good

I dare you

:-)

reply to post by Chalupas


Because there couldn't be American-born Muslims.

I didn't have nearly the time you are describing in Turkey. Nor in Kuwait, Egypt, Morocco, Qatar, or the UAE. Perhaps the problem was you?

The "we don't get all their rights there" argument is stupid. Just, stupid. You want to be like them? Or do you want to be like the U.S.? Can't have it both ways.

Oh, and Rome fell when it stopped being a producing society and became a consuming society.

Originally posted by sageofmonticello
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

This doesn't bother me.

Not even a little bit. What is wrong with observing a Muslim holiday? It is not like this was issued federally.
This is the result of a local democratic process. This locality decided they wanted to do this, it is legal.

What is the big problem you have with it? It is Ok, for 1 religion to have days off but not another? Why? What is wrong with it? Do you just not like the Muslim religion? Is it the break in tradition of only honoring traditional Christian holidays? Seriously, what is your beef?

This is what freedom is all about.

edit on 7-11-2011 by sageofmonticello because: (no reason given)

I'm sure it wouldn't bother muslims, in a muslim country, having an unofficial christian holiday....Yeah Right.
Pakistan, is just one of many that proves that point.
I'm not bashing muslims, just religion as a whole and the hypocrisy that goes with it.

reply to post by LeoStarchild

Well.. I didn't say anything about black shooters. Terrorist attacks ARE carried out by Islam. Your correlation of black gunmen to my statement makes no sense.

Some might be but the IRA weren't Muslims, ETA aren't Muslim, nor was the Unabomber or the Tamil Tigers.

Your message implies that all Muslims are predisposed to terrorism and violence, which is nonsense pal. And the ones who carry out violent attacks are not considered Muslims by most.

So your attempt to demonize me is a failed attempt...your liberal is showing.

So is your ignorance, I'm not into your politics.

With that being said... Islam IS a religion of Hate and intolerance for others that don't abide.

No, it isn't.

reply to post by wuforde

Really arollingstone.. post a fact that a bombing with the last year was not a jihad blast. No not every who shots someone is black. But pull your head out of your ass. If this was England we could just say the IRA.... Yes i am speaking in generality, but until you say a suicide bombing somewhere is not jihad, your cred is crap.

I don't really know what you're talking about. Apparently, neither do you:

Suicide bombing is NOT part of jihad in Islam. Extremists and Muslims are very different things completely.

reply to post by AllUrChips


Hello?

We have businesses/schools/etc that close on CHRISTIAN holidays.

What's the big fuss here?

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by Lykantroph11
But is has become a problem for me to see that most schools, and malls, and workplaces have stopped celebrating Christmas or Easter in an attempt to not make Muslims uncomfortable............. and to not get on their bad side the Musilm holidays are still being celebrated.................This gets me going. If it's all about feeling welcome and equal, BY ALL MEANS go on and continue this wonderful quest.

BUT the same rules MUST apply : Eighter we celebrate ALL or we celebrate NONE religious festivity.

The problems are largely created by the white, liberal, middle-class, heterosexual male types - not that there's anything wrong with any one of those 5 categories

- obnoxiously and patronisingly decreeing what's ''offensive'' to anyone who isn't white, male, middle-class and heterosexual.

exactly!

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by antar

 

If anybody here from any religion wants to celebrate their own holidays by all means do it, do it at you own leisure, but keep the BS out of our laws, US is a majority Christan nation and has been since its humble beginnings and that can never be erased.

You DO realise that the first people living there : NATIVE Americans weren't Christian at all?

reply to post by Chalupas


Are you a Christian?

Do you call yourself a Christian?

If so, then you should be ashamed of yourself.

People like YOU are the reason why people like ME reject Christianity and ALL forms of organized religion!!!

But keep on crying and whining and invoking the founding fathers, who by the way, were not known for their faith but rather their thirst for FREEDOM from the crown!!!

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by Lykantroph11
But is has become a problem for me to see that most schools, and malls, and workplaces have stopped celebrating Christmas or Easter in an attempt to not make Muslims uncomfortable............. and to not get on their bad side the Musilm holidays are still being celebrated.................This gets me going. If it's all about feeling welcome and equal, BY ALL MEANS go on and continue this wonderful quest.

BUT the same rules MUST apply : Eighter we celebrate ALL or we celebrate NONE religious festivity.

The problems are largely created by the white, liberal, middle-class, heterosexual male types - not that there's anything wrong with any one of those 5 categories

- obnoxiously and patronisingly decreeing what's ''offensive'' to anyone who isn't white, male, middle-class and heterosexual.

No #, Sherlock!

The problem is intolerant people like you coming onto a website for denying ignorance and crying your eyes out because you think there's a war on Xmas, etc.

YOU create and push the problem, not the people you blame!

reply to post by RedGod


Tim McVeigh was not the mastermind in blowing up the Alfred P. Federal Murrah Building. The F.B.I were involved and evidence proves that. Just as they were involved in the 1993 bombing of the WTC. You people really should do some real research instead of just taking what the media gives you and running with it. You look like a fool.

Mr. Mcveigh had said he had a chip implanted in his buttocks. No one will ever know if that was true but it be nice to know.

Also, I gave the facts about the two faced, hypocritical nonsense that goes on in this country when it comes to the issue of religion being involved in public schools & government. I'm the one that goes for facts only, when it's you that goes with what you are told. I'm not your brother for you are an enemy of the government. The U.S Constitution.

reply to post by RedGod


Yikes!!!

reply to post by RedGod


I have only but a short time with this post. I have done a quick search and it seems the verses that you have posted have their own issues in Islam on the true meaning. I will post more when I have worthwhile sources.

Thanks!