Mass. School district to close tuesday for ISLAMIC holiday?!

reply to post by Dimithae


I hear what you are saying but I think you are missing my point. I would be OK with a school district removing all religious holidays, some religious holidays or particular religious holidays.

i don't support this because it gives credence to an often ignored religion in the USA, I support this because a local school district had a problem and made a choice for themselves as to what works for them.

I support local school districts ruling themselves in the interest of their districts citizens which this is a case of.

I don't really care what national trends are or any of your other arguments, respectively that is. My sole concern is that a local school district had what the community saw as a problem and that local community came up with a solution that worked for them. That is what I support.

What is the problem with local school districts making decisions on their behalf?

reply to post by maryhinge


Of course they should respect your ways, just as you should respect theirs. That unfortunately is not what this is about. Nobody is disrespecting anybody.

reply to post by Anusuia


This is not about all schools respecting all religious holidays. This is about the freedom of individual school districts to determine what days they would like to have off. You are missing the point my friend, in my opinion.

reply to post by the4thhorseman


Do you have any evidence to support your claim?

I think not as plenty of evidence that refutes your claim exist. I wonder if you visited the link the OP gave you. It completely contradicts your offered opinion.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


I see Christmas as a christian holiday as do millions of Christians, despite its history.

Your entire reply to me is incorrect.

reply to post by TigaHawk


You are completely missing the point. The federal government is not making this a law?!?

A LOCAL school district that is predominantly Muslim has done this because they had a problem that needed to be solved and this fit the bill.

This is not about one country accepting another countries traditions. This is about a local school district having a problem with attendance on a certain day and finding a solution that the locality endorses.

What is your problem with a local community governing itself within the parameters of the law?

reply to post by wuforde


I am not sure what you are saying to me but if you are asking if I am a Muslim, no. I was raised catholic though as an adult I would say I am Agnostic.

reply to post by mackey1224uk


You are right. It would most definitely bother a muslim nation to honor a christian holiday. That would be my guess as well. That is probably why so many people from all over the world have flocked to the USA.

If you are comparing what the USA should do based on what other countries would do if the tables were turned I am afraid you are setting the bar rather low.

reply to post by RedGod


I love it! At least they had reverence for nature and for their families...

reply to post by antar


And now I love you.

Insofar as my wives will allow.

Seems like the OP is just plain scared.

The entire post smells like fear of something growing into something larger..its paranoia no less.

reply to post by soaringhawk


I don't remember talking about Babylon. I was talking about my people.

I'm not keen on getting into a theological discussion in a thread dedicated to an event but, isn't rule by fear and intimidation what the Christian God is about according to the Bible?

Now, the problems you mentioned there, those are crimes in conservative Muslim countries. In liberal Muslim countries (like say, Morocco, Kuwait, or Bahrain) these are not crimes at all. Despite what some would have you believe, there are in fact conservative and liberal Muslim nations just like there are conservative and liberal US states.I urge you not to fall into the trap of lumping all people of a particular faith or culture together under one umbrella. I strongly urge you to travel.

I liked those last few sentences though.

What we must do is instead be an example of what we know is right through our conscience. What we do to another we do to our self.

That gives me hope. It also gives me a moment to say, that is exactly why this sort of event should not offend you.

Namaste.

reply to post by lnfidel


Firstly, I'm not a pacifist.

Secondly, it appears that you either have no idea of what society is like in the UK, or you use the Daily Fail as the basis for your views on this matter.

Muslims have been living in the UK since the 19th-century, but the numbers grew larger from the 1960s onwards, as large-scale migration from the Indian subcontinent to Britain occurred.

There was never really any negative focus on Islam or Muslims until the 11th of September terrorist attacks. Following that, the gutter press, such as The Sun and the Daily Fail, have been printing sensationalist scare-stories about Muslims, which are eagerly lapped up by people who are suspicious or paranoid about Muslims, immigrants, non-whites, etc.

This is how anti-Muslim sentiments and fears are fueled; exaggerated, misreported and false stories about Muslims serve as confirmation bias to those who already have a pre-conceived prejudice about Muslims.

If someone farts on a bus, the headline would read: ''Man breaks wind''. But if a Muslim farted on a bus, the headline would read: ''Muslim man breaks wind on packed bus in front of women and children''.

That's how the divisive and irresponsible rhetoric from these publications serve to promote unreasonable and false anti-Muslim attitudes and feelings from their readers.

wow!

next thing you know, the JEWS will want school closed on a holiday too.

perish the thought? first came the jews, then the xtians, then the ISLAMICS

oh wait, lots of schools nationwide are closed for jewish holidays since decades if not a whole century in America.

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Originally posted by AllUrChips
reply to post by sageofmonticello

 

Who said I dont like them? I dont agree with them trying to establish their countries beliefs in MY COUNTRY. Yes I sais MY country.

First, it's not a country's beliefs, it's religious beliefs.
Second, then how do you feel about our country trying to force it's beliefs on their countries through war?

Originally posted by AllUrChips
Whatever happened to ethnocentrism being a POSITIVE thing for a country?! www.theblaze.com...

Ethnocentrism has never been a positive thing, even though all countries have practiced it and most still do.

Why is ethnocentrism bad?

Originally posted by Carseller4
This is not about Muslims getting a day off for one of their so-called holidays.

This is about the silence of the ACLU and other Christian hating organizations.

If a school district decided to take the day off for say...The National Day of Prayer (not a national holiday), the ACLU would be all over it.

The ACLU is Christian hating? Fail
They have supported christian persons as well as persons of most other religions. Also, the National Day or Prayer is not only not a national holiday, it is not a religious holy day, and therefore should not be taken off for school or work.

So, since it is not one of your holy days, it is so-called? Again, fail.
Just because you believe in a god of a different name, does not invalidate other's belief in their god.

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
I'm 100% against Islam. I think it's a death cult.

That being said, I'm all for this. It's setting a precedent at this point. All the arguments that are being used to support this will be used for Christians and Jews to mandate a day off as well. If the Muslims get a sanctioned religious holiday, then it will only be fair to change "winter break" back to "Christmas break". If schools can decide that Muslims get a religious day off, and can pray in schools on Fridays, then other religions should get the same.

The 1st Amendment is clear. It says "CONGRESS shall pass no law" (key word...CONGRESS). That doesn't mean that if a Christian kid wants to say a Christian prayer at a school graduation that they should be barred from doing so. They should have that right. Same goes for the Muslim. If there is a Muslim valedictorian, then that person has earned the right to speak, and say what they believe were guiding forces in their success. It's "freedom of religion", not "freedom from religion".

Bravo, couldn't have said it better myself, and wish I had. I wish more people would actually read and try to understand what the Constitution says and means.

Go Sonar,IC2 here.

Originally posted by soaringhawk
Islam is not a religion. It's a cult.

By that logic, then Christianity is a young cult, Islam has been around a lot longer than Christianity.

Those of you in support of this had better be in full support of school prayer and creationism being taught in school. If you're not you're a bunch of hypocrites and you're a joke.

edit on 7-11-2011 by soaringhawk because: (no reason given)

I am in total support of this, it has nothing to do with what is taught in school. It has to do with treating all religions fairly. If we, as Christians, get time off for Easter or Christmas, then Muslims should get time off for their high holy days.

I also believe that we should never have officially removed prayer from school. After all, it's not like it doesn't happen all the time anyway...test time, math time, front of the class time...

Some people have brought up Buddhism, Confusianism, and other religions having days off. If their high holy days fall on what would normally be a school day, then they should be allowed to have them off.

If we (the USA) would follow the rest of the developed world and have school year round, then we could easily support having a few more holidays included.

reply to post by gamesmaster63


Islam came 600 years after Jesus Christ. I don't know where on earth you learned that Muhammad was before Jesus Christ. Allah is a lunar deity. No different than other gods & goddesses that bare male & female attributes.

Some of the earliest places of worship for Christians were turned into mosques. These would be in Turkey, Iraq, etc. I have studied Islam and I think you need to do the same. You also need to read the Holy Bible or wouldn't say such a thing. I think it's quiet clear you are not a Christian.