OWS is Being Played

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine


See that's exactly why I think y'all are the ones who are being played. How is protesting the elite, and in essence, the NWO, playing into their hands? One would gather from your statement, that we're not supposed to protest them.

P.S A group of like 100 idiots doesn't represent the 7,000 people who were out at the port in Oakland..

edit on 4-11-2011 by My.mind.is.mine because: (no reason given)

That's the thing, you "think" your protesting the elite and they laugh at you.

What your doing is causing CHAOS for the elite, so the elite can then grab more power from you,
and everyone else.

You guys are protesting FOR MORE TAXES!!! TAXING THE RICH!!

TAXING ANYONE MORE is crazy and feeding the system they run with MORE money
and hurting the middle class making THEM who you protest bigger!!
Not hurting multi-billionaires (buffet) and multi-millionaires(Michael Morre) Hurting the people that give us jobs!
Hurting people who are the backbone of America.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


Look, those of you who refuse to read George Soros’s profile and fail to connect the dots are really sad. I understand that not everyone is capable of seeing the big picture. You all need to wake up and realize that they are using your passion, energy, determination and action to further their own agenda. They don’t care WHY you’re protesting…only that YOU ARE out there protesting. They want OWS to turn violent and they’ve tricked you into making it happen. They don’t care about you and your issues!!! That’s how you’re being played….all of you!

George Soros and the others want mass chaos so they can collapse this economy, throw out the constitution and create a New World Order. It’s amazing to me how so many people can be oblivious to what’s going on even when the information is readily available. ATS is full of information!! Connect the dots already!!

Ows is being played it's all about location location location

Wall Street isn't Capitol Hill nor 1600 Pennsylvannia Avenue nor is it Fanny and Freddy nore the last potus

Potus come and go but Those Congressman have been there for decades and they were the ones going no no nothing to see here.

Useful idiots indeed mass manpulation for more of the same that led to the current state of the union and what is their solution?

Depends on who you ask what kind of cause is that? Oh i know one without a clue and a cause.

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Well that did it for me. Anytime Jesse and his gang are supporting something, you can bet it isn't a good thing. Him and Al Sharpton need to disappear. They cause more trouble than anyone.

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

Well that did it for me. Anytime Jesse and his gang are supporting something, you can bet it isn't a good thing. Him and Al Sharpton need to disappear. They cause more trouble than anyone.

He played a big role along side Dr. King during the civil rights movement.... you don't support that either?

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he is a black racist and I do not support that. Him and Al Sharpton are the two foremost people who keep racial tensions in this country going. They picketed the Duke LaCrosse team before there was any trial, yet when it was found to be a lie, they never apologized. They have made their money on the backs of racist allegations and tensions.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

Well that did it for me. Anytime Jesse and his gang are supporting something, you can bet it isn't a good thing. Him and Al Sharpton need to disappear. They cause more trouble than anyone.

He played a big role along side Dr. King during the civil rights movement.... you don't support that either?

DID YOU JUST PLAY THE RACE CARD?? Shame on you!!

Originally posted by Arsenalwa
Good to know.

You know, I'm seriously astonished at the amount of anti-OWS stuff on ATS. You would have thought that this is what most people here always wanted, with all the hate and opposition of the government everywhere (and rightly so). But then once some people actually try to do something about it, you get several threads a day trying their absolute best to make them stop or paint them in a bad light. I can't quite make sense out of it.

edit on 4-11-2011 by Arsenalwa because: (no reason given)

You said it yourself, right here, but "can't quite make sense of it"?

ATSer's opposition to the GOVERNMENT,

OWS is "Occupy WALL STREET".

See the difference yet? OWS is counter-productive.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

If you aren't doing nothing, then I'd assume that you're out in the streets because as citizens that's where we need to go to get change. That's where the occupations are.

There's an old homeless guy down on the corner who stays in the street for "change". That's where he goes to "get change", and it seems to be working for him. He collects more "change" in a day's time than OWS will gain over it's life time.

If you're in the streets, you're looking for the wrong kind of "change" to be collected there.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters

If they actually fix the problem, who freaking cares? you can make it about who supports who and who might have funded who, it doesn't matter if they actually fix the problems being outlined.

If.

If frogs had wings, they wouldn't go along bumping their asses on the ground.

If.

get over it, don't support them? fine, just shut the hell up about it already.

I'll be damned if I will. I haven't told YOU to shut up - I've answered the salvos from your sort without telling them to "shut up". I'll exercise my own free speech just as much as you do, and probably with better effect, thanks.

It'd be a sad mistake to try to "shut me up".

We get it. you don't support them or their goals, fine, you can shut up about it now because you aren't going to convince any of us that the problem is too big to fix, you aren't going to convince me that corporate fraud and bank bailouts are ok because Soros might have a finger in the pie.

Nope, I'm STILL not going to shut up and just let the OWS run amok.

GET OVER IT

Likewise.

If Soros wants to pay me to go fight for what's right, why the hell not?

I see.

It's "right" so long as YOUR boy is raking in the bucks and consolidating the power, and to hell with the People. Thanks for that admission.

Who's the one being played? not OWS and none of us who support their goal(s). Time to look in the mirror and maybe ask yourself why you guys are wasting so much time over this.

We are countering a big push in the Creeping Collectivist Agenda. Doing it this way beats the hell out of the shooting wars I used to get into with them.

Those, however, can still be accommodated whenever they get ready to jump.

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by satron
Even if they are being played, they still need to be out there. It's a lot better than doing nothing at all, that to me, is a bigger error.

No, no, by all means let's all go home and have movie night and TALK about protesting on ATS. That's MUCH better than being in the streets trying to raise awareness.

Logical Fallacy. Just because someone doesn't support OWS doesn't mean they are 'doing nothing.' I am simply suggesting you put aside your personal reason for supporting OWS and look into who is pulling the strings. Would you still be out there if you knew you were doing nothing more than furthering more of the same thing you’re against? Because you are!

Exactly. It's clear that those who support OWS did not support the Tea Party. If they had come out in droves to support the Tea Party, we could have pressured Obama Pelosi to stop the outrageous unConstitutional piece of dirt called The Affordable Health Care Act, which even before it passed, caused premiums to rise just by the notion of it.
The things OWS wants are different from what Tea Party wants.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

P.S A group of like 100 idiots doesn't represent the 7,000 people who were out at the port in Oakland.

I note that none of those 7,000 policed the 100 "idiots" out of their own ranks... even though according to you they outnumbered them by 70 to 1.

Too busy looking for "change", I reckon....

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
how exactly is exercising their patriotic duty to protest and petition the government, playing into their hands?

By NOT doing so where it can affect real Change...

the only people playing into their hands are people like you and others posting this same tired old anti-ows crap.

Well you're Partially right!, but the way OWS has been aimlessly meandering about the message [What little there really is] has been overshadowed by Marxist Crap.

guilt by association didn't work before, it's not going to work now.

Denial is a powerful tool for justification

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters

how exactly is exercising their patriotic duty to protest and petition the government, playing into their hands? How exactly is reining in corporate fraud and bank bailouts, playing into their hands?

How exactly is standing on Wall Street beating drums and yelling at buildings "petitioning government"? You all Do know that DC is a good ways south of your position, don't you?

Originally posted by neo96
Ows is being played it's all about location location location

Wall Street isn't Capitol Hill nor 1600 Pennsylvannia Avenue nor is it Fanny and Freddy nore the last potus

Potus come and go but Those Congressman have been there for decades and they were the ones going no no nothing to see here.

Useful idiots indeed mass manpulation for more of the same that led to the current state of the union and what is their solution?

Depends on who you ask what kind of cause is that? Oh i know one without a clue and a cause.

Even when the long term politicians are gone, the horrid legislation stays. I was watching something on the news just like yesterday, on the list of federal laws on the books that even Congressmen said they didn't know all of the laws or if they were breaking laws. They said we can be breaking laws we don't even know exist and there are like over 4 thousand of them, as opposed to how many there were in the first years of our Founding Fathers rule. And the commentary was that the Democrat Congress wants more laws.

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Actually, OWS wants Obama's healthcre plan.
sites.google.com...

Originally posted by beezzer
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Actually, OWS wants Obama's healthcre plan.
sites.google.com...

Oh, and they want Obama too..

Now it adds up, maybe that is why there not protesting
the white house. Wait until (there guy) is not in office.

Nancy Pelosi on the Tea Party when we out protesting her Draconian legislation







Nancy Pelosi on OWS





Isn't that really telling?

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Actually, OWS wants Obama's healthcre plan.
sites.google.com...

Yes, that is correct. But they want more of it. They want Universal health care, not just subsidized insurance plans which tell people when to off themselves for the sake of their families( Olbermann style)


apparently not all Universal health care plans are alike. If the Affordable Health Care Act were all that they want, they wouldn't still be bringing it up. Also, Obama admin already passed some financial reform legislation, but OWS wants more. You see, because the Obama admin are still not through fundamentally transforming our nation into the Socialist Utopia he wants.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues. Some programs are paid for entirely out of tax revenues. In others tax revenues are used either to fund insurance for the very poor or for those needing long term chronic care.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues. Some programs are paid for entirely out of tax revenues. In others tax revenues are used either to fund insurance for the very poor or for those needing long term chronic care.

A wider international comparison of 16 countries, each with universal health care, was published by the World Health Organization in 2004 [7] In some cases, government involvement also includes directly managing the health care system, but many countries use mixed public-private systems to deliver universal health care.

en.wikipedia.org...


So looks like they want more govt involvement and still less private control.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Actually, OWS wants Obama's healthcre plan.
sites.google.com...

Yes, that is correct. But they want more of it. They want Universal health care, not just subsidized insurance plans which tell people when to off themselves for the sake of their families( Olbermann style)

Apologies. I should have said they want the plan Obama wanted.

Oh, the link also goes on to describe how they want Al Gore environmental laws as well.

Makes you really wonder.
-er, well not us. We figured it out!