Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the Internet

Originally posted by NadaCambia

You can say you care until you're blue in the face, but so long as you deny the government the right to police such acts it's obvious you don't care.

should we all have a cameras in our homes that the governement can see what we are doing so that the governement can police us properly?

My personal opinion is that this b*stard needs to be taken out, beaten with a belt while being told to get on his stomach and "take it like a grown woman." Mom (was that lady mom?), too. I wonder if he felt like a real man when he was done.

But with that opinion aside, I'm having a hard time understanding their rationalization for beating her so bad to begin with for such a stupid thing. My whole thought on this is if she wasn't supposed to be using the internet and was doing so against the rules...wouldn't the rational and common-sense thing be to take away the child's computer and/or internet access for a while? Why did she have internet in the first place if she wasn't supposed to be using it? I was never hit when I was a kid, so I can't rationalize how beating a child will ever make them respectful or compliant.

I mean, that's what I do. If I set a rule and it's broken--I make it impossible to break the rule. If I can't make it impossible to break the rule, I make it so they don't want to ever break the rule again by taking another privilege away or grounding them, taking away television or whatever. It works pretty well.

The old saying is "spare the rod, spoil the child," but if you've got good parenting skills, you wouldn't need a rod in the first place.

Wow... I'm almost speechless. That's torture you can tell he's getting off on it. That's hardcore. I thought I had it baddest with 3 slaps from the paddle.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


Because explaining the effects of saying that to ones face in public is different to threatening him.

Got it... That's why I am still here. I know it grinds at you

So I will smile

Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by NadaCambia

You can say you care until you're blue in the face, but so long as you deny the government the right to police such acts it's obvious you don't care.

should we all have a cameras in our homes that the governement can see what we are doing so that the governement can police us properly?

No, but we should have laws in place that make beating your children illegal.

Should we all live in a lawless society and murder and rape each other derpity derp?

Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
My personal opinion is that this b*stard needs to be taken out, beaten with a belt while being told to get on his stomach and "take it like a grown woman." Mom (was that lady mom?), too. I wonder if he felt like a real man when he was done.

But with that opinion aside, I'm having a hard time understanding their rationalization for beating her so bad to begin with for such a stupid thing. My whole thought on this is if she wasn't supposed to be using the internet and was doing so against the rules...wouldn't the rational and common-sense thing be to take away the child's computer and/or internet access for a while? Why did she have internet in the first place if she wasn't supposed to be using it? I was never hit when I was a kid, so I can't rationalize how beating a child will ever make them respectful or compliant.

I mean, that's what I do. If I set a rule and it's broken--I make it impossible to break the rule. If I can't make it impossible to break the rule, I make it so they don't want to ever break the rule again by taking another privilege away or grounding them, taking away television or whatever. It works pretty well.

The old saying is "spare the rod, spoil the child," but if you've got good parenting skills, you wouldn't need a rod in the first place.

Exactly right. I was once grounded without TV and computer for 4 months I can assure you i'd have happily taken a few hits with a belt come the end of week 1

reply to post by Enemyc0mbatant


that sounds like "fair" discipline, theres no comparing it legally to what happened in the video, just absolute senseless idiocy.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by NadaCambia

You can say you care until you're blue in the face, but so long as you deny the government the right to police such acts it's obvious you don't care.

should we all have a cameras in our homes that the governement can see what we are doing so that the governement can police us properly?

No, but we should have laws in place that make beating your children illegal.

Should we all live in a lawless society and murder and rape each other derpity derp?

where do you draw the line.

why should there not be cameras in every home so that people do not get away with horrible crimes like this.

if there were cameras in every home this crime would be halted immediately

Her you tube site . .
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by NadaCambia

You can say you care until you're blue in the face, but so long as you deny the government the right to police such acts it's obvious you don't care.

should we all have a cameras in our homes that the governement can see what we are doing so that the governement can police us properly?

No, but we should have laws in place that make beating your children illegal.

Should we all live in a lawless society and murder and rape each other derpity derp?

where do you draw the line.

why should there not be cameras in every home so that people do not get away with horrible crimes like this.

if there were cameras in every home this crime would be halted immediately

Because it would be an invasion of privacy and a punishment to the vast majority of law abiding citizens. I think maybe that's why.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by OzTruth

why am I still here??? I don't support or make excuses for child beatings and if someone wants to, then maybe they should be banned. This all started because I questioned the whereabouts and safety of the little girl that is still in their custody and he didnt care...

I do care, we all should.

But not enough to go mess with these people over it.

We need to find balance between the extremes.

Now you're trying to save face, let's just quote what you said about it

I am sorry but this kid in the video is the least of my worries. It's way over-blown.

That's for those who missed it so you're attempts to make people side with you don't work...

You're arguments and debates are flawed. violence against children isn't tolerated. And these parents should lose custody.

He wouldn't last a day in jail with the inmates knowing who he is and what he done... We get that you want him to get off scot free, have is day in court... It's easy to accept his day will come. If it hasn't already.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
I didn't see any real abuse here.
Real abuse wouldn't even be postable on ATS because it would break the T+C.

I understand fully that I am totally outnumbered and am going up against a brick wall here.
But I am used to that.

I am not here to win your favor, I am here to show how contradictory and hypocritical people really are.
I refuse to join in on this anti-parent agenda.

Why isn't anyone talking about the Child Abuse the Govt commits when it bombs nations to rubble arbitrarily over lies? Oh yeah, because everything the govt does is justified.

Actually, I completely agree with you. I was an abused child. I'm not cold to it...quite the contrary. I raised my children completely opposite, but I do discipline. NEVER though, how I was disciplined!!

I can't help but wonder, just like every other video that goes viral and elicits a knee-jerk emotional outrage, if it is real or fake. If it IS real, how the hell did it get on the web? There's an agenda here, and are we to believe a girl with cerebral palsy is the one with the agenda? If not, then whose agenda? And why? I think those questions are probably far more serious than the superficial ones everyone is entertaining. I certainly don't like how they spoke to her.

I will say this...anyone with the proper "clearance" can tap into ANY cell phone, any computer or any webcam at any time, regardless if you're using them or not. If they are "on", then the devices can be used on the other end at will by those with the power to do so. No one is perfect, but I tell you what...everyone needs to be darn humble and think back about what they've done or said in the presence of their phones or pc's before passing judgment.

But I totally agree with you. At worst, if the public pushes this, then maybe the parents should be forced to go to parenting classes with the daughter so that they can heal their family and learn to communicate better, but even that is crossing the line and opening the door to having the government define how parents should or should not discipline their kids. (Not entirely sure that's a bad thing to set a "standard", but to enforce it is an entirely other issue.) This publicity can't be making things any better, that's for sure.

reply to post by SonicInfinity


Holy crap!!! Those parents need the same thing done to them!
Absolutely unbelievable.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Because it would be an invasion of privacy and a punishment to the vast majority of law abiding citizens. I think maybe that's why.

vast majority of law abiding citizens. really.

you should spend some time with social workers.

this is not a pretty planet you are living on. its a dark place.

it is believed 1 in 4children suffer sexual abuse. most cases by a family member or someone they know.

1 in 4. do you have any idea of the numbers we are talking about here. seriously.

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