ANONYMOUS Identifies Cop Who Shot Marine Vet Scott Olsen

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by WWJFKD
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You can call this movement whatever name your creative mind comes up with and it will make it no less real. These people are here to stay and your snide remarks and the deplorable actions of this "peace officer" will only strengthen its resolve. You can hang up trying to discourage this bunch and start considering instead how to factor them into your world.

You have good cop friends congratulations. Well maybe your good cop friends would like to pay this officer a visit as well as the many good cops out there and remind this thug - this is not how we conduct business. This event in Oakland is especially egregious but its not some isolated incident. There are a catalog of lesser, similar and worse cases of police brutality to be found at ones fingertips and this trend is causing a deep rift between the good cops out there and the people they swore to protect, the jackbooted thugs could care less they live for this crap but the good cops are getting caught up in the middle of this and they need to act now.

Complacency is complicity. When the smoke finally settles a lot of hard questions are going to be asked and a lot of people are going to be held to account for what was done and what was not done to avert it.

How far are you willing to take this thing? I suggest we concentrate our efforts far less on being Law Enforcement Officers and put a great deal more into being Peace Officers.

Law Enforcement is Law Enforcement. If the "occupiers" violate the law, then those charged with enforcing it have a public obligation to arrest the violators. You are familiar with "law?" it's that thing that keeps us from being savages and running around crapping on police cars.

When an officer tells you to "step back" you step back. If you don't like the way the officer behaves, you pursue the correct legal channels, you don't show your a## and get arrested: you cannot gain from that.

And my creative mind calls this movement: "crap"

So there you go, hippie.

You might want to research the difference between a law and a statute.

The law you keep referring to is basically a bunch of corporate rules invented by your corporate owners, that you agree to play by as a corporate entity (your surname).

If an office tells you to step back, he has no legal right to enforce that instruction and as a human being you do NOT have to obey. Of course, the cop has no idea he is enforcing corporate (financial policy) so he'll probably smack you over the head for the pleasure of it, thinking he's entitled

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by WWJFKD
reply to post by tangonine

 

You can call this movement whatever name your creative mind comes up with and it will make it no less real. These people are here to stay and your snide remarks and the deplorable actions of this "peace officer" will only strengthen its resolve. You can hang up trying to discourage this bunch and start considering instead how to factor them into your world.

You have good cop friends congratulations. Well maybe your good cop friends would like to pay this officer a visit as well as the many good cops out there and remind this thug - this is not how we conduct business. This event in Oakland is especially egregious but its not some isolated incident. There are a catalog of lesser, similar and worse cases of police brutality to be found at ones fingertips and this trend is causing a deep rift between the good cops out there and the people they swore to protect, the jackbooted thugs could care less they live for this crap but the good cops are getting caught up in the middle of this and they need to act now.

Complacency is complicity. When the smoke finally settles a lot of hard questions are going to be asked and a lot of people are going to be held to account for what was done and what was not done to avert it.

How far are you willing to take this thing? I suggest we concentrate our efforts far less on being Law Enforcement Officers and put a great deal more into being Peace Officers.

Law Enforcement is Law Enforcement. If the "occupiers" violate the law, then those charged with enforcing it have a public obligation to arrest the violators. You are familiar with "law?" it's that thing that keeps us from being savages and running around crapping on police cars.

When an officer tells you to "step back" you step back. If you don't like the way the officer behaves, you pursue the correct legal channels, you don't show your a## and get arrested: you cannot gain from that.

And my creative mind calls this movement: "crap"

ALL OWS is de facto a gross violation of the law.

Originally posted by tangonine
Really simple: You do NOT have the right to "occupy"

Period.

"occupy" carries with it an overt aggressive connotation. not part of our constitution. Compare/Contrast the Tea Party rallies, where the Tea Party said what they came to say, cleaned up after themselves, were respectful, non-violoent.

The same can't be said about these idiots at Occupy Stupid.

I fully agree.

Originally posted by sceptredisle

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by WWJFKD
reply to post by tangonine

 

You can call this movement whatever name your creative mind comes up with and it will make it no less real. These people are here to stay and your snide remarks and the deplorable actions of this "peace officer" will only strengthen its resolve. You can hang up trying to discourage this bunch and start considering instead how to factor them into your world.

You have good cop friends congratulations. Well maybe your good cop friends would like to pay this officer a visit as well as the many good cops out there and remind this thug - this is not how we conduct business. This event in Oakland is especially egregious but its not some isolated incident. There are a catalog of lesser, similar and worse cases of police brutality to be found at ones fingertips and this trend is causing a deep rift between the good cops out there and the people they swore to protect, the jackbooted thugs could care less they live for this crap but the good cops are getting caught up in the middle of this and they need to act now.

Complacency is complicity. When the smoke finally settles a lot of hard questions are going to be asked and a lot of people are going to be held to account for what was done and what was not done to avert it.

How far are you willing to take this thing? I suggest we concentrate our efforts far less on being Law Enforcement Officers and put a great deal more into being Peace Officers.

Law Enforcement is Law Enforcement. If the "occupiers" violate the law, then those charged with enforcing it have a public obligation to arrest the violators. You are familiar with "law?" it's that thing that keeps us from being savages and running around crapping on police cars.

When an officer tells you to "step back" you step back. If you don't like the way the officer behaves, you pursue the correct legal channels, you don't show your a## and get arrested: you cannot gain from that.

And my creative mind calls this movement: "crap"

ALL OWS is de facto a gross violation of the law.

Then the Constitution must be a gross violation of the law as well, according to your logic.

Originally posted by goldcoin

Originally posted by sceptredisle


ALL OWS is de facto a gross violation of the law.

Then the Constitution must be a gross violation of the law as well, according to your logic.

The surprising thing is that we see so many shills here in favor of neofeudalism (fascism) .

But the main goal of the gov't shills is to inject this movement with the "craft" of politics, and try and divert attention away from the real concern of OWS which is the CORRUPTION and TYRANNY in OUR gov't and ecnomic systems.....You can definitely see the agenda ...ANYTHING TO TAKE THE FOCUS OFF OF THE CRIMINALITY OF THOSE IN POWER.

Ok how about this....the cops release all the information on anyone who does any kind of crime? How about that? If we are gonna release this guys info lets release info on everyone who does something stupid. That would be all of us eventually.

Originally posted by cosmicexplorer
Ok how about this....the cops release all the information on anyone who does any kind of crime? How about that? If we are gonna release this guys info lets release info on everyone who does something stupid. That would be all of us eventually.

It's one thing to do something stupid, and another to shoot someone in the head.

I don't think that the cop should be harmed, but if he is...he brought it on himself. You don't shoot anyone in the head, and you especially don't throw a flash grenade at the people trying to help the injured.

Originally posted by cosmicexplorer
Ok how about this....the cops release all the information on anyone who does any kind of crime? How about that? If we are gonna release this guys info lets release info on everyone who does something stupid. That would be all of us eventually.

You forget that when you become a "PEACE OFFICER" you have to meet a higher level of integrity, not the same as the rest of the population.

That is the main concern of people posting here, it seems that many "law enforcement" officers not only are not meeting this higher level of standard but are falling way below it, and when they fail at their job they are NOT even held to the same legal standards as the majority of the citizens...very bad indication of tyranny in society.

For hurting a fellow being or near killing him/her, the culprit has to take responsibility for his action. The Natural Law says so.

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First, I must say that if you SERIOUSLY think that someone not doing as they are told is reason enough to prevent them protesting a much greater injustice or indeed reason enough to perpetrate a even BIGGER injustice by attacking them with projectiles full of tear gas, and flashbang grenades, then fair enough. When thirty percent of the US is in poverty, when the rest are DESTROYING THEMSELVES to feed thier families, when the US is essentially in a worse economic position than Greece, and the only people with a pot to urinate in are the hideously wealthy, then I guess you will be super happy that a bunch of people did as they were told and kept out of the way.

Hey , why shouldnt they all go home ? After all, they are only trying to save thier nation from corruption that makes most communist dictatorships look like The Mother Teresa College For Jolly Nice People. Its fine, never mind the fact that according to the history of thier nation , it is people like them that founded the damned thing, no never mind all that. Never mind the fact that WITHOUT protest there will be no effective change, and the fact that like the UK, the US simply cannot AFFORD to have thier nation run by finance rather than philosophy any more... never mind all that,because SOMEONE IS BREAKING THE LAW!

Do you know something about law? I do. The most important thing any man can learn about the law,is that it is Justices idiot cousin. Where Justice has meaning, depth, and importance and can never be corrupted due to its purist nature, Law can be bought, changed , and sold, injected with filth and avoided.

Your ignorance of the importance of remembering that Justice, in a fair society comes BEFORE law in order of importance, is utterly staggering, and makes me physically sick. Well done.

I wonder what the Jews in Nazi Germany thought of Law when they were burning in the ovens? I wonder what they thought of Law when they were herded onto trains, or starved beyond endurance,worked till thier backs broke, or forced to march until thier feet bled and they died of exhaustion.

Its true that some of the protests have had bottle throwers in them.It is also true that agent provocateurs have been identified within the ranks of some protest groups, police agents placed to cause trouble and give the lads in black a reason to charge. That may carry a lesser potential charge than lobbing a bottle at a copper, but its far more of a moral horror,and you dont see anyone under arrest, or getting shot in the head with a tear gas can for that do you ? No . So quit your damned whining about your precious law, and realise the trouble in your nation is NOT being CAUSED by the people in the street, but by the people who provided the target for thier anger.

I just wonder if the police chief gave cops a flame thrower if they would "find" a reason to use it ?

Supposedly cops are trained to think clearly but this one apparently forgot to hoping to remain hidden among the masses of got your back homie cops.

The sad thing is they are quick to throw a grenade at a protester but will sit there for 10 years investigating a drug cartel before taking any action.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by GodefroydeBouillon

 

I hope he is (assuming this is the correct officer of course) suspended for a month or two without pay and retrained on the force continuum. I think it's possible that he just made a mistake, but more probable that the head shot was intentional.

Retrained as in next time don't get caught!


If ANONYMOUS really wants to do something of value it would out all the bs our government does for all to see.... but no go after a petty foot soldier who knows absolutely nothing about who they work for. Punish their family to boot. You should be going after the people who gave the order to block the press then turn around and instigate violence to justify force.

Prove it!!!!.

I wanna see what you got!!!

Originally posted by SLAYER69
How many here are 100% sure that the guy Anon has singled out is the guilty Cop? Isn't there something in this country we call due process? Innocent until proven guilty?

Otherwise, all we have here is simple Mob rule and some group online singling out random people with no real facts.

innocent until proven guilty? ask the guy shot in the face that

Originally posted by thedarktower

Originally posted by SLAYER69
How many here are 100% sure that the guy Anon has singled out is the guilty Cop? Isn't there something in this country we call due process? Innocent until proven guilty?

Otherwise, all we have here is simple Mob rule and some group online singling out random people with no real facts.

innocent until proven guilty? ask the guy shot in the face that

what kind of non sense are you talking about?? it is guilty until proven innocent now a days

Originally posted by SLAYER69
How many here are 100% sure that the guy Anon has singled out is the guilty Cop? Isn't there something in this country we call due process? Innocent until proven guilty?

Otherwise, all we have here is simple Mob rule and some group online singling out random people with no real facts.

Well that's too bad. No. There is no due process in the perfect, "fair" sense. Some people are apparently above the law and get away with pretty much anything. So when some old fashioned, imperfect citizen's justice comes along, guess we'll have to say we'll have to accept the fact that we don't know all the facts.

You can't play this game by the ideal rules when the other "side" is so powerful and gets away by making their own. You've seen how they operate. Make the game fair by playing by their own rules!

This is kind of turning into a war. You can't beg the same screwed up corrupt system to treat you a certain way. They're already shown how they play, and that's making their own rules and breaking them at the same time. They apply to us but not to them.

You will lose every time if you try to play fairly here because THEY'RE not. It has to stop somewhere and sometime.

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Innocent until proven guilty. The gentleman who posted (somewhat less articulately than he could have) that the fellow who took the gas can to the face probably feels that HIS right to be innocent until proven guilty has been breached, is absolutely right. The policeman who shot him, and then lobbed a flashbang at the people helping him did not consider that maxim, that motto, before unleashing his arsenal.

One ought to expect to recieve only that which one is prepared to offer others. You offer others an unjustifed impact to the skull , followed by preventing anyone assisting your victim, then you ought to expect exactly the same in return.

This policeman did not take into account the very principle by which the legal system operates, when he fired his weapon on that Marine, and he has no business expecting anything less in return. If he does NOT get put in the hospital, I hope the restraint of everyone who might have put him there and didnt, shames him into repenting the most grevious sin he committed in discharging his weapon the way he did.

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to all the bleeding hearts out there, this LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER should have thought about it before he SHOT the poor man in the head. he deserves anything that he gets. i feel sorry for those who llive with him as he obviously has anger issues. not a personality trait of a police officer im sure... (yes that last bit was sarcasm.) may he burn in hell after he gets what he deserves...

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to all the bleeding hearts out there, this LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER should have thought about it before he SHOT the poor man in the head. he deserves anything that he gets. i feel sorry for those who llive with him as he obviously has anger issues. not a personality trait of a police officer im sure... (yes that last bit was sarcasm.) may he burn in hell after he gets what he deserves...

His training was a double-tap (two shots) to the chest followed by one to the head. Where's the two shots to the chest? There are none. So that would suggest an intent to hit the victim in the head with the very first shot, contrary to all training, policy and procedure.