Herman Cain Accused of Inappropriate Sexual Behavior: Two Women Receive Financial Settlements

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

It's already been discussed. Quit spamming. The fact that she lived in the same apartment as Axelrod means nothing.

There is more than that. She admits to knowing him.

It's over. We found the truth.

Nice try.

Herman Cain is innocent.

It's just dirty politics. Get over it. You blew this one.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Yes, she admits knowing him. And Obama admitted knowing Ayers. Guilt by association does not work. Don't you have a bridge to crawl under? We talked about this DAYS ago.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Ann Coulter spelled it all out in her article.

Did you even read it?

Why do insist on smearing an innocent man?

Someone needed to bring the truth to this thread.
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You appear to have a problem with the truth. I would never tell you to crawl under a bridge.
I think you just don't want people throwing cold water over your -smear Cain - party.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Fitting that you posted that link directly after my explanation of "guilt by association".

Anne Coulter starts the article with..

So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod​.

Apparently she is unaware that

the now 5 women and 9 accusers/witnesses originate from all over the country..

that Chicago is home to 2.5 million people

and that the building that the accuser briefly shared years ago with David Axelrod was occupied by over 2000 people.

But what the hell..."guilt by association"...any BS that works and apparently for the GOP fanatics, any strategy works.

I tip my hat to the Conservative National review and several Conservative Women's Groups who have rightly called these defenses BS....attack the accuser..imply it is a democratic scheme..

Psst...Democratic Strategist are praying daily that Cain survives this scandal...

Such insane ignorance.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Someone needed to bring the truth to this thread.
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You appear to have a problem with the truth.

From the poster who created this thread back in 2008????

Very Bad News for the democrats: No Recession/Depression

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Economy is growing. Unemployment is under 5%.
The war in Iraq is almost over. We had VE day. We had VJ day. Now Victory in Iraq
is on it's way.
Our future has never been brighter!
------Republicans will win the White House again in November!-------
President Fred Thompson!

post by Eurisko2012


Every thread you have posted since carries the same veracity...

President Fred Thompson? No Recession?.......When I see you post I know the opposite is true.

reply to post by Indigo5


Hey, not bad. Now lets smear the messenger.

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Nice try. The truth is coming out on Sharon Bialek. Attacking me just shows
your desperation.

Herman Cain is still number 1 in the polls.

You are wasting your time. Did you see the CNBC Presidential Debate last night?
The people in the audience booed Maria Bartiromo when she brought up the
smear campaign on Herman Cain.

The truth is that the American people know a smear campaign when they see one.

reply to post by Indigo5

As to Gary Condit, there was no evidence to convict him. Are you saying that he's not innocent by your perception, but since you presume him guilty, and the LVA didn't, it voids the LVA's findings?
I didn't follow the story but remember in conclusion that he was found guilty from the media persuasion, yet there was nothing linking him to the murder.

My question is why? Why would so many agencies use the LVA software if it's so unreliable?

I made some phone calls and sent out some emails. It's going to be a long weekend due to the holiday so I don't think I'll be posting much anytime soon about the software.
What I did find out though was that there are many formats to it. The article I linked earlier had a phone number on it so I talked to someone from there, she's the one who mentioned the different formats.

Imo, it makes no sense whatsoever that so many law enforcement agencies are using something that is unreliable and no one has come out and exposed it, well, to the best of my knowledge so far in my research.

I'd rather know the truth, not what I want the truth to be.

Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by Indigo5

 

As to Gary Condit, there was no evidence to convict him. Are you saying that he's not innocent by your perception, but since you presume him guilty, and the LVA didn't, it voids the LVA's findings?
I didn't follow the story but remember in conclusion that he was found guilty from the media persuasion, yet there was nothing linking him to the murder.

You are confused. Two different discussions.

Gary Condit was the Dem Representitive who denied having an affair with the murdered woman during three police interviews until he finally confessed to that affair. While many suspected Condit of killing her it was never proven. Herman cain just hired the same Lawyer Condit used.

LVA had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by sweetliberty
My question is why? Why would so many agencies use the LVA software if it's so unreliable?

My question is why you think so many agencies do?

Because the man who is selling it claims "over 70" PD use it?

The places I found that once used it - in years past, like Jefferson County Wisc. for example, have since ceased using it after the scientific studies came out showing it as bunk, plus it just didn't work in practice.

Now...I think you might be the victim of some intentional BS by the people that sell it when they say agencies like the CIA etc use it...they do use voice analysis...to identify voices (like Osama Bin Laden tapes)..but not LVA as a lie detector.

reply to post by Indigo5

My question is why you think so many agencies do? Because the man who is selling it claims "over 70" PD use it? The places I found that once used it - in years past, like Jefferson County Wisc. for example, have since ceased using it after the scientific studies came out showing it as bunk, plus it just didn't work in practice. Now...I think you might be the victim of some intentional BS by the people that sell it when they say agencies like the CIA etc use it...they do use voice analysis...to identify voices (like Osama Bin Laden tapes)..but not LVA as a lie detector.

T.J. Ward emailed me back. I asked him for a list of the agencies among other things. I will look into what he sent me and post it here but right now it's veggie-time, lol, almost time for bed. Hopefully the other emails will come in sooner than I figured too.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by Indigo5

 

Hey, not bad. Now lets smear the messenger.

Not at all. In your case both the message and the messenger are indistinguishable on the BS meter.

reply to post by sweetliberty


Also see here on Layered Voice Analysis and the Cain Scandal.

This blogger watched the CBS Atlanta interview and noticed that T.J. Ward ran the analysis with the accuser as a "Male" voice...not that the software works anyways, but if it did, it wouldn't matter, he had the wrong gender selected in analysis.

antipolygraph.org...

reply to post by sweetliberty


I'll be interested to see what he says. I love how you're going after this.

reply to post by Indigo5


Good information. Someone's on the ball.

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by sweetliberty

 

Also see here on Layered Voice Analysis and the Cain Scandal.

This blogger watched the CBS Atlanta interview and noticed that T.J. Ward ran the analysis with the accuser as a "Male" voice...not that the software works anyways, but if it did, it wouldn't matter, he had the wrong gender selected in analysis.

antipolygraph.org...

Gulp!
Slow down! I dropped my rose-colored glasses, lol. Not these >>>

I contacted both T.J. Ward and Mike Paluska (CBS Atlanta Reporter).

This is a copy from Mr. Ward via his Blackberry...
The first quote is in response to my initial email yesterday.

Go to the voice analysis, look at the demo and interview with the LA County Sheriff's office or the Foryth co Sheriff's office in Georgia

This is the second email, it's from this morning in response to my email about the article claiming the "male' settings interfered with results.

GOOD MORNING! THE SETTING THAT WAS CK , DOES NOT INTERFER WITH THE VOICE SAMPLE WE GOT FROM THE ALEG. VICTIM MY ASSOCATE AND PRESIDENT LYNN ROBBINS RAN THE TEST ALSO IN MADISON WI AND RETURN THE SAME RESULTS THAT WERE PUBLISHED BY CH 46 Sent via BlackBerry

This quote is from Mike Paluska, the reporter, this morning.

The male setting does not effect the voice analysis. Its just info put in like name age dob... Hope that helps. Mike

Yes, this could've been fabricated by me but it's not.

eta: I just found this in my in box. Its from Mr. Ward.

BE MORE THE HAPPY TO SEND TOU THE RESULTS WITH THE LVA 6.50 FROM MY ASSOCIATE , LETS NOT RULE OFF THAT MR. CAIN S RESULTS!

reply to post by sweetliberty


I would agree that the setting makes no difference. The technology is faulty. It wouldn't matter of it was set to Poodle. That's my opinion of the software after reading about it.

Did Ward include a list of the 70 agencies now using his product?

I don't think you're fabricating a thing.

reply to post by Indigo5


Let me add one comment to your post. The attorney Herman Cain has hired, L.Wood, is the same attorney that represented Richard Jewell in the 1996 bombing of Centennial Park at the Atlanta Olympics, which killed one and injured over one hundred. Here is a piece of that case.

Richard A. Jewell (December 17, 1962 – August 29, 2007) was an American security guard who became known in connection with the Centennial Olympic Park bombing at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia, United States. Jewell, working as a private security guard for Piedmont College,[1] discovered a pipe bomb, alerted police, and helped to evacuate the area before it exploded, saving many people from injury or potential death. Initially hailed by the media as a hero, Jewell later was considered a suspect. Despite having never been charged, he underwent what was considered by many to be a "trial by media" with great toll on his personal and professional life. Eventually he was exonerated completely: Eric Robert Rudolph was later found to have been the bomber.[2][3] In 2006, Governor Sonny Perdue publicly thanked Jewell on behalf of the state of Georgia for saving the lives of those at the Olympics."

Wikipedia
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Sound familiar? The media along with the FBI ruined this mans life! For weeks they eviscerated his character.. Living in Atlanta at the time, I remember the jokes, the way they chipped away at his dignity, based on OPINIONS, NOT FACTS! The same kind of treatment Herman Cain is going through! The man was INNOCENT all along. Yet our wonderful media, acted as judge, jury, an executioner!!

The media went on to publicly apologize and Rodney Jewell received undisclosed pay outs. not just one settlement, but several!

Based on these facts, yeah, I believe Herman Cain has found the "right" attorney.

Pax

Originally posted by paxnatus
[The media along with the FBI ruined this mans life! For weeks they eviscerated his character..

This happens with every high-profile dramatic news story, whether the person is guilty or not. It's a casualty of placing one's self in the spotlight. Herman Cain's life isn't going to bee ruined.It looks like he's doing fine. He may lose the presidential nomination, but he would have done that anyway.

I'm glad he's got a good lawyer, but the fact is, he's not on trial by a court. It's the people he has to convince. And why does he need a lawyer? He's not being legally charged with anything...

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Wow!! Incredible find!! Yes, when I heard sleazebag Axlerod was involved, I knew it was a scam. I hope Cain sues the sh** out of him!!!!



Thank you so much for the article!

Pax

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Good morning. The initial email was all that was sent to me in response to my questions that also included asking him about the other agencies who he claims to be using the LVA.

I'm going to decipher it, lol, and make some phone calls soon. In a little while, I'll have some free time to look into this software myself (Independent contractor still on-call atm, which is seriously interfering with my ATS time )
I must say, patience is a virtue and BH is virtuous! Thank you for your patience and understanding. If you didn't have the understanding, you wouldn't have been so patient. (with added spit-fire too but who notices

Mr. Cain, accusations of sexual harassment, politics, the msm, GLORIA ALLRED, lol, and a few other things in the mix sure seems to bring out a few emotions in people. Your composure speaks volumes.

Speaking of G. Allred. She seems to be alluding to having more information in the case with Herman Cain and Sharon Bialek. Seems she prefers to sit on it a little longer.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


BH, reelly? "Why does he need a lawyer, when there are no charges?" Your statement just made me shake my head. Well why have you and the liberal posse, falsely convicted a man when there were no charges?

Common sense is the reason Cain needs a lawyer! The man has been defamed, and slandered every minute of every day for weeks now!! Would you not try and at least defend your character? Oh my gosh, I cannot believe you said that! I am amused!


Pax

reply to post by paxnatus

Originally posted by paxnatus
Yes, when I heard sleazebag Axlerod was involved, I knew it was a scam.

Involved in what? How is Axelrod "involved"? You mean Ann Coulter is saying he's involved? Oh, well, Ann is always right on the ball.

From the article:

So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago

We only know 2 of the accusers. One is from Chicago. One is not the same as five...

Yes. Bialek had an acquaintance with Axelrod as they lived in the same building. You like that "guilt by association" thing, don't you? that article, like MANY, is filled with suspicions, accusations and assumptions, but very few facts. And they don't point to anything.

But what do we expect from a woman who says, "Our blacks are so much better than their blacks"???

There is no indication whatsoever that David Axelrod is involved in this. It's a bunch of fear-based right-wing ranting.