I'll Make You A Believer

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


i find video footage really hard to tell if it the same as i have seen...

I'm bassicly being warned by the uniited states to keep my mouth shut, which is why I'm seeing these UFO's... (as they are flown by USA)

I was informed that a few people have been seeing the same thing as me, all over the country. so i looked into why, which led me here...

people have been speculating that they are flown by aliens in my offline life, however I know them to be remote control flown ufo's... what your seeing in that video looks like a UFO to me, they do have that flash capability, and can hover in one place for many hours, to going slowly across the sky, to travelling upwards of 1000mph...

i know skeptics will always say its a satelite however i've seen three things similar to your youtube link, at the same time traveling in different directions, i seen so many of these things... but very few manned ufos

sorry for thread hijack op ;-)

reply to post by ArMaP


No. In the 16th Century there were still some people who maintained the Earth was flat just like those today who maintain we have not have been visited by extraterrestrial intelligences. If someone chooses to become defensive because of that comparison, that's their problem.

Originally posted by 1questioner
reply to post by ArMaP

 

No. In the 16th Century there were still some people who maintained the Earth was flat just like those today who maintain we have not have been visited by extraterrestrial intelligences. If someone chooses to become defensive because of that comparison, that's their problem.

Only the earth has been exhaustive and conclusively to be be flat where as Aliens visiting earth have not been proven with equal evidence. Big difference and it is not even debatable. Do not become defensive, I am just stating the obvious.

Here is the problem I have with all this....

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
1. Credible high profile witnesses.

Man-made

2. Visual evidence like photographs and videos.
a.) Videos/photos where the phenomena is occuring today.
b.) Old photos that are nearly impossible to fake.

Once again man-made... Everything, and I mean everything, is man made. One would think to actually have emperical evidence of aliens it would finally one day be from off this planet.

reply to post by Pimander

Sorry didn't mean to sound rude if thats how i came off! Just trying to help

You wont make me believe with a video like that

Clouds, cgi, parachutes, planes, lanterns, and the obligatory videos/pictures with no reference points.....how is that UFO's/???

I really believe some of you have so much faith in this it makes you a little cranky/weird, which only makes you believe more.

Faith is the new stupid as TF said :p

I could film an aerial on a roof of a house at night....upload it to Youtube and i would have hundreds of replies from people saying they have seen the same UFO...saying how it could only be aliens.

Im tempted to start making hoax videos......theres a guy who does the same on Youtube...he is HILARIOUS.

www.youtube.com...

His UFO video has over 30k views, he has 41,037,959 views of his videos. Look at the comments in them...people saying how they have witnessed the same things...despite them being made by this guy on a computer haha.

What people claim are alien spaceships/alien drone ships are normal every day things for the most part. The others are things that they have not seen before, and decide because of that it has to be aliens...or demons if you are also religious.

Im sure you will have many views on your video...im sure there will be plenty of 13 year old kids saying that what you have presented is absolute PROOF of alien visitations...sorry, i still dont believe despite watching some of your video.

reply to post by skibtz


king arthur was probably murdered and his throne taken by the same line that holds the british throne now.

the current family and line of the monarchy probably outlawed the mere mention of his name, so when they spoke about him, it was in legend and myth.

just the fact that legend tells that king arthur was noble, just and embodied chivalry, makes this plausible.

because the current monarchs look like weasels and snakes and feel right at home on their belly. especially charles and his sons.

Originally posted by ilian51378
Exactly! Especially a missle that hits the ground and then flies up again?! Maybe it is possible, but I have never heard of it...

I suppose you've never heard of a stone skipping across water either...

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by ArMaP
I would have like it much more if you had written about this topic, added the photos and the videos needed and made one of those great threads that have been missing from ATS for some time.

There have been far too few recently, mate.

It's finding the time to give a case "the treatment" it deserves. There are plenty of members who can do it but life gets in the way.

Ah yes the MEGA threads... from the likes of Internos, Mike Singh, Dimensional Detective, Protoplasmic Traveler... and many more old friends...

Seems they were all abducted by Aliens... POOF one day they are here, the next they have vanished and few even remember them. I mean it has to be Aliens... either that or the PTB snuffed them

Originally posted by ArMaP
For those that like to use the expression "think out of the box" (I don't like that expression

), this is the same as getting out of the box to enter a different one.

Not quite right... Draw these 9 dots on a piece of paper and connect them using 4 straight lines WITHOUT lifting your pen And don't use google

Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by ilian51378
Exactly! Especially a missle that hits the ground and then flies up again?! Maybe it is possible, but I have never heard of it...

I suppose you've never heard of a stone skipping across water either...

One thing sure i have never heard of a stone detonating in a big explosion when touching ground.

I've even thrown a stone on an old car once, a scratch yes but no explosion.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


Thanks so much for posting this was exactly as you intended informative and very interesting. Many of those incidents I had not seen previously. I love the forward thinking title to your thread. It is very optimistic though. You presume everyone will have minds not already closed. It is not enough to provide evidence unfortunately for some who cannot extrapolate and draw conclusions from what they are seeing. In fact some of their conclusions are quite impossible but still they cling to them for comfort and safety.

Evidence must not only appear in black and white in front of these people, evidence must take the long journey inside their minds, traverse wide expanses and locate the closed doors, open them up and then reappear in front of them again. I am afraid, only then, will they grasp the significance of the evidence presented and recognize all UFOs cannot possibly be from this planet.

Im not able to watch the videos and havent read to far into the thread yet but regarding the skipping UFO, there is an episode of Fact Or Faked that attempted to recreate the event.

im not able to give any links and I dont want to spoil the episode with details but give it a watch im sure youll find it interesting.


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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by ArMaP
For those that like to use the expression "think out of the box" (I don't like that expression

), this is the same as getting out of the box to enter a different one.

Not quite right... Draw these 9 dots on a piece of paper and connect them using 4 straight lines WITHOUT lifting your pen

And don't use google

edit on 31-10-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)

And for people who think they can always believe their eyes....
You can't always do that.
Stare at the 4 center dots for about 30 seconds.
Then look at a white surface and start blinking.



This is how easy it is to fool us.

Although I still think (know) many UFO's are the results of intelligent life visiting from other planets.

reply to post by alldaylong


First of all king arthur was real, he led the attack against the saxons in the early 6th century.

, i reckon you are american so please do not try and modify british history when it is not your own.

reply to post by alldaylong


First of all king arthur was real, he led the attack against the saxons in the early 6th century.

, i reckon you are american so please do not try and modify british history when it is not your own.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


I have heard 57 variety of alien but this video says 4 are confirmed. I wonder if we can differentiate these by craft? Cigar, triangle, saucer and "other" which includes everything from orbs and acorns to flying humanoids and flattop hats.
Since he said inter dimensional abilities are mentioned I'm willing to guess orbs might be a transitional state. Science allows for multiple dimensions in theory anyway - why so unbelievable?

Interesting how so many of the most incredible photos are from the late 40's to early 60's.
Was that a baby boom or alien seeding? I can't prove it but think there was an increase in adoptions in the mid fifties as well as the "baby boom" boost in number of natural born children. After the atomic bomb blasts it might have been thought eart6h needed some help.

"You could sit right next to them on a bus."

I enjoyed the Cry for Humanity vid on your channel.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

I'm watching right it now and have got past the balloons, the Indian flares and through to Bob Dean.

Bob Dean is an old school BS artist. He's been all over the galaxy and actually seen Nibiru with his own eyes. 'It's beautiful.'. He's met Annunaki too. Unfortunately for Bob, everything he's ever provided as evidence of his claims has been identified as faked or misidentified. His cover of the 'Assessment' was a fake jpg that he distanced himself from. Then he had the NASA images of alien spaceships that were Saturn rocket stages. He went on to be interviwed by Project Camelot and made wild claims (tears too) of adventures in space and meeting aliens. He knows everything.

Thank you for the knowledge. Bob hasn't sparked much interest for me, never had anything against him but I agree with that old school disinformation feel. It shows how wild this disinformation game really is with these claims. However space colonization in today's world would be a secret to society I'm thinking.

reply to post by alldaylong


Believe it or not but there is evidence for King Arthurs existence and the only reason we think he is a piece of fiction is because the Normans came over to England and created idols who never existed to bring hope for them and turn the English away from their ways and into the ways of the Normans.

The bottomline is that the only reason why Arthur is classed as fiction is because of the fictional people the Normans brought over in their tales and sadly,Arthur is now classed as one of those fictional characters.

reply to post by nikobellic


It was filmed outside White Sands Missile Range in 1996 or 1997 so odds are very good it was a failed test of something of ours.

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