I'll Make You A Believer

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


v1rtu0s0

I don't have any doubt about these being ufo's to us but aliens, no, nothing and noone are out there that haven't always been. Fallen angels and heavenly are and back and forth since the beginning and now our government has a lot of these sort of crafts but not on the equal of what Satan and his angels have built up. Also they have needed bodies to dwell in and have conjured up vile looking bodies to us but they are not alien. Back after the flood Noah and his sons had trouble with the nephilim spirits killing off his sons and sons sons. So Noah prayed to God to have them locked away but Satan pleaded that he needed some for his purposes and so God allowed him one tenth. But God then put His Spirit in the righteous of men and none could no longer touch any His Spirit was in and the same is true yet today. That can be read in the ancient book Jubilees. We are going to be seeing far more greater things as the end time progresses on, just keep watching. Sibbs.

reply to post by sibbs


What have the end times got to do with ufo's?

Explain

reply to post by watchdog8110


The original source video would be nice please

Could you please provide an unedited version of the video.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


A believer in what?

Some things about the video:
1 - Could you provide a source for that UN report that says that more than 150 million people have been witnesses to UFO sightings?
2 - How can you know from a photo if a UFO is of an alien or indigenous source?
3 - No, old photographs are not harder to fake. The easiest fakes are the ones done with physical objects or using physical properties, like reflection, or optical illusions, to give a wrong idea. As for technically altering a photo, it's just a different technology, but relatively easy to do, I have seen my sister changing negatives (usually retouching small scratches or removing unwanted reflexes) many times, using only some ink and a small brush.

A problem with the video is that you mix know cases for which no explanation has been found with cases that are most likely balloons or aeroplanes (the Lake Erie lights always move in the direction of an airport, while loosing altitude), so the credibility of the video is affected, in my opinion, by this.

Another thing, but this a personal problem: I hate videos.

I would have like it much more if you had written about this topic, added the photos and the videos needed and made one of those great threads that have been missing from ATS for some time.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


I ment the possible explanation for the supposed ufo crash, but im just asking a general question regarding man made vehicles with that capability when i asked the question regarding what man made vehicles can stop mid air and hover besides helicopters?

reply to post by v1rtu0s0
Thank you, my thread is not a very good effort but at least I tried & the stills are strange also.

Many thanks.

Originally posted by EnigmaAgent
reply to post by watchdog8110

 

The original source video would be nice please

Could you please provide an unedited version of the video.

Digging it up currently from a lot of other vids , so please bear with me .

spacevids.info...

Part 1 around the 10:50 mark from their montage .

reply to post by ArMaP


I left it open ended--a believer in extraterrestrial UFOs.

They are extraterrestrial as far as we are aware unless they live inside of the earth, in which case it's just arguing semantics.

3 - No, old photographs are not harder to fake. The easiest fakes are the ones done with physical objects or using physical properties, like reflection, or optical illusions, to give a wrong idea. As for technically altering a photo, it's just a different technology, but relatively easy to do, I have seen my sister changing negatives (usually retouching small scratches or removing unwanted reflexes) many times, using only some ink and a small brush.

I disagree. I think it's way easier to fire up a photo manipulation application, or after effects and alter a picture of video than it was in 1875 for example. Much quicker at least. I didn't say it was impossible, but I know forensic analysis has been done on some photographs to prove they are authentic.



I'm sorry that you don't like videos. I'll try harder next time.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0
An ATS clips only video is a great idea, then put it onto youtube & plaster it all over those Social Networking sights to spread the word.

It is such a shame that us ATS members seem to be the 5% that are open to new chains of thought and ideas, we may be our children's only hope. I have tried to get through to my real friends and out of the 7 I have spoke and shown evidence from this site & others to, only 1 has paid any attention and he was the least likely I expected, he is an R&B Rapper/Producer/Actor.

I hope society unplugs & joins us but I fear it is too late for the other 95%.

May, peace, love & harmony be with us all, one world/one people/one life/one chance.

True greatness is having a good effect on others and future generations not worldly goods, money or status.

Brillliant video mate, couple of those are new to me. confirms my belief S+F

my sources informed me that the nordics don't exist within digital entities, and are a non digital entity. And my sources claimed that we are a digital entity. In otherwords we are a created species, on a created planet in a digital universe. Because the Nordics where a non-digital being that meant they were the being that created our being. My sources told me that the nordics have a treaty with the USA making it illegal for the united states to create an alien nation for the 'greys'. That even if the united states still went ahead and created the alien nation that the nordics had declared terms of war on the 'greys' nearly 100yrs ago with regards to the greys interest on this planet.

Part of those terms of war were that the greys had to stick to our planets law, which meant the greys had to abide by human law. They landed upwards of 90years ago in America and eventually signed a treaty for terroritory in exchange for technology(around the time of world war 2).

My sources told me that other than the nordics and the greys they were no other beings here (although the nords are not here as they are non digital and can't exist amongst digital entitys)

The Nordics speak every language on our planet without an accent and sound very human like, however only telepathically. According to my sources as well the nordics are far more powerful than grey aliens, and far more powerful than our being.

my sources suspect that America has been creating a consperacy, by flying ufo's all over the planet to make people and goverments suspect that the ufo's are flown by aliens. That USA is trying to attempt to make it look like the grey aliens are going to war with our being in an attempt to take over our planet.

My sources say that america has even gone to the length of hauling structures to the moon to make it look like thats where the aliens are from.

my sources are worried that the states may be trying to take over our planet, and have been trying for about 70years. They suspect that USA were planning to take out the world navy's, world air forces while everybody blamed aliens for the attacks and even suspected that USA was planning on attacking itself. That USA is currently moving towards this and has been for some time.

My sources told me that the nordics were actively involved in stopping America from taking over the planet, however very few governments are aware of them. and that very few governments were aware of the situation in full if at all.

I have more detailed infomation however your not on this message board to have your life ended, its best kept in government hands, and i too put my faith in the world goverments and if this is true the nordics to sort this mess out.

The nordics according to my sources are of higher intelligence, intelligence services mistake them for humans (based on the nordics voice) and have been fighting this war for a very long time (100years+)

the treaty makes it illegal for an alien nation, which means aliens would have to break the law to get the nation, which means the nordics will be in war with grey aliens (and will win according to sources) America are not in war with the greys, but are in war with the nordics (higher beings) however Nordics are yet to declare exactly what support they will give the rest of the world if a war happens (and the intelligence services are worried about how powerful they are)

according to sources the nordics claim that not only do aliens exist, there are far more species than you or i could believe within this universe...

I would descend from the fence on the side of the believers
if this video could proven. there are some real interesting statements here,
but as the man says........ it's secret

reply to post by rigel4


Great video. Salas is in my video as well.

What part about it is secret?

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
reply to post by ArMaP

 

I left it open ended--a believer in extraterrestrial UFOs.

They are extraterrestrial as far as we are aware unless they live inside of the earth, in which case it's just arguing semantics.

I'm sorry that you don't like videos. I'll try harder next time.

I really enjoyed your video and commend you on your effort. There where allot of the clips I have never seen and really appreciate you taking the time and effort to put it together.

Originally posted by piles
my sources informed me that the nordics don't exist within digital entities, and are a non digital entity. And my sources claimed that we are a digital entity. In otherwords we are a created species, on a created planet in a digital universe. Because the Nordics where a non-digital being that meant they were the being that created our being. My sources told me that the nordics have a treaty with the USA making it illegal for the united states to create an alien nation for the 'greys'. That even if the united states still went ahead and created the alien nation that the nordics had declared terms of war on the 'greys' nearly 100yrs ago with regards to the greys interest on this planet.

Part of those terms of war were that the greys had to stick to our planets law, which meant the greys had to abide by human law. They landed upwards of 90years ago in America and eventually signed a treaty for terroritory in exchange for technology(around the time of world war 2).

My sources told me that other than the nordics and the greys they were no other beings here (although the nords are not here as they are non digital and can't exist amongst digital entitys)

The Nordics speak every language on our planet without an accent and sound very human like, however only telepathically. According to my sources as well the nordics are far more powerful than grey aliens, and far more powerful than our being.

my sources suspect that America has been creating a consperacy, by flying ufo's all over the planet to make people and goverments suspect that the ufo's are flown by aliens. That USA is trying to attempt to make it look like the grey aliens are going to war with our being in an attempt to take over our planet.

My sources say that america has even gone to the length of hauling structures to the moon to make it look like thats where the aliens are from.

my sources are worried that the states may be trying to take over our planet, and have been trying for about 70years. They suspect that USA were planning to take out the world navy's, world air forces while everybody blamed aliens for the attacks and even suspected that USA was planning on attacking itself. That USA is currently moving towards this and has been for some time.

My sources told me that the nordics were actively involved in stopping America from taking over the planet, however very few governments are aware of them. and that very few governments were aware of the situation in full if at all.

I have more detailed infomation however your not on this message board to have your life ended, its best kept in government hands, and i too put my faith in the world goverments and if this is true the nordics to sort this mess out.

The nordics according to my sources are of higher intelligence, intelligence services mistake them for humans (based on the nordics voice) and have been fighting this war for a very long time (100years+)

the treaty makes it illegal for an alien nation, which means aliens would have to break the law to get the nation, which means the nordics will be in war with grey aliens (and will win according to sources) America are not in war with the greys, but are in war with the nordics (higher beings) however Nordics are yet to declare exactly what support they will give the rest of the world if a war happens (and the intelligence services are worried about how powerful they are)

according to sources the nordics claim that not only do aliens exist, there are far more species than you or i could believe within this universe...

I don't mean to sound completely ignorant...but what are you talking about

reply to post by hathorschild


don't worry, i understand this forum seems to be about UFO's sightings, and i have driven off topic from the whole point of your conversation.

It seems many on this site doubt ufo's exist, know very little about UFO's and are very skeptical about the whole subject.

I'm talking about inofmation which goes a little deaper than a 'ufo sighting'

my apologies

reply to post by piles


At least elaborate please...you threw me for a loopty loop

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


I love the video. I am already a believer but that clinched it for me. There is no way that anyone can say that they all were fake or there is some earthly explanation.

Originally posted by piles
reply to post by hathorschild

 

don't worry, i understand this forum seems to be about UFO's sightings, and i have driven off topic from the whole point of your conversation.

It seems many on this site doubt ufo's exist, know very little about UFO's and are very skeptical about the whole subject.

I'm talking about inofmation which goes a little deaper than a 'ufo sighting'

my apologies

I have not seen hardly anyone that doubts the existence of UFO's. We "skeptics" just need more than claims such as "My Sources" in order to believe we are actually being visited from aliens.

We would like to presented with evidence. There is nothing I want more than to find compelling evidence for the existence and presence of "aliens" here on earth. I would bet that at least 90% of the "skeptics" feel the same way. That is why I keep coming to ATS, waiting for 1st contact

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
They are extraterrestrial as far as we are aware unless they live inside of the earth, in which case it's just arguing semantics.

That's the problem, as far as we are aware, they can even be something nobody ever thought about, so why limit it to that possibility? If we are looking for out of the ordinary explanations, why stick to one possibility?

For those that like to use the expression "think out of the box" (I don't like that expression ), this is the same as getting out of the box to enter a different one.

The only thing I can say for sure is that, if they really exist, they are terrestrial, extraterrestrial or both.

I disagree. I think it's way easier to fire up a photo manipulation application, or after effects and alter a picture of video than it was in 1875 for example. Much quicker at least. I didn't say it was impossible, but I know forensic analysis has been done on some photographs to prove they are authentic.

It may be easier, but that's one of the problems with today's familiarity with technology, many people think that, because it's easy to use some program, they can use it well.

That's why we see so many fakes that are easily spotted, because people think that having access to Photoshop or After Effects (could it be an Adobe conspiracy to promote their products? ) is enough.

I'm sorry that you don't like videos. I'll try harder next time.

The fact that I do not like videos (in fact, I hate them) doesn't mean that you didn't do a good job with the video, it just means that it's a medium that I do not like, because I think it forces people to spend at least the time that the video lasts to see what's said in the video, with a linear sequence, while written material allows us to go back and forth, and re-read just the last sentence, for example, in a much easier way.

So, don't let my hate for videos interfere with your preferred way of distributing information, it's just my opinion about the medium, not the content.