One Mega Watt E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful!

Originally posted by playswithmachines
First of all, you should be aware that Rossi was all set to build TWELVE of these units for the city of Athens a few years back.

"A few years ago"? Really?

I thought that was only presented this year, in February.

Do you have source of that?

Thanks in advance.

I have studied this technology for the last year and believe this technology to be real.
There are countless lab tests showing energy gain, but Rossi is the first to make large gains.
The process converts Nickel into Lead (requiring a Nuclear process). Gamma rays are given off, Nuclear!
The cost is 1 cent or less per KW, so the energy is referred to as essentially free.
Rossi's design is crude and much Engineering is needed to take the technology public.
Rossi seems to have problems controlling the reaction and is always running them at the low energy scale of what they are capable of. I believe he needs more sophisticated control methods to start getting the high energy levels. When he goes in self sustain, he sometimes needs to boos the reaction for short times to keep it going. I believe this is part of why the power was left connected. As the technology is understood and better control methods will evolve and the things that cause problems will fade. What you are seeing with this test is Engineering prototype level hardware, or equivalent to pre Model T. Was everything perfect, no, but what was demonstrated is incredible for its repercussions. I believe a new Energy era was started on the 28th.

Looks like he didn't do his homework on steam, according to the New Energy Times.
This throws a very big spanner in the works.....

Originally posted by fusionman
I have studied this technology for the last year and believe this technology to be real.
There are countless lab tests showing energy gain, but Rossi is the first to make large gains.
The process converts Nickel into Lead (requiring a Nuclear process). Gamma rays are given off, Nuclear!

There were no Gamma rays detected outside the E-Cat, and, as far as I have see, nobody made any measurements inside it.

I believe a new Energy era was started on the 28th.

I hope so, but the fact that Rossi's partner (the scientist that have been studying this for many years) says that he doesn't know what the "secret additive" that Rossi uses makes me think that something is wrong.

reply to post by Arken


Rossi saying the test happened, and Rossi saying the un-named customer is happy amd wants to stay un-named, and Rossi saying it is a breakthrough......

Hmm....

I have been doing the same thing with my plasma heater device for over a year now. I have shown this device to many people looking for interest in it and have proven through basic testing that the energy consumed during the plasma shielding of the anode is reduced by 60 to 1000%. My device only heats water to 200 deg Fahrenheit, but it could be made into a boiler as well.

This is not a fake.

I have shared this design with everyone on youtube. Specific components and details are held by me, but a persistent person could figure it out easily. I only want to find funding to further the technology and build better equipment than I can build in my garage. I am not a corporation so I have no money for R&D. I thought as soon as I was able to show the reaction of the plasma causing the resistance break-down in the water and the subsequent plunge in watt consumption while doing the same work I would be fighting off offers for R&D money.

No such luck.

As far as the requirement for power on his device goes, he needs the initial power to cause and maintain the reaction. The energy comes from the breaking down of hydrogen atoms in the water around the anode. The plasma forms a sheath around the anode that glistens with active plasma. This reduces the resistance in the water by placing the sheath between the anode and water yet conducting the electricity the same amount or more. The heat produced from the plasma reaction is greater than Faraday predicted, but it is not magic.

here is a link to my device: www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by yampa
As others have said: the customer required that the unit be entirely run as self sustained - the 2,635 kWh of energy generated over the 5.5 hours was entirely self sustained. i.e UNPLUGGED.

Here is a picture of that part of the report, note the 'Ratio between Energy produced and Energy consumed':

The external generator had to be unplugged *as a condition of sale*. The power readings released were actual work done, measured by the steam generated from the reactor. The average temperature of the water piped in was 18.3deg c, the average temperature of the steam out was 104.5deg c. The generation of steam is the same method used to drive turbines in the majority of industrial electricity production.

If you understand anything about the electromagnetic properties of nanoparticles, you will realise that this adds great credence to this experiment. Electrically heated nickel nanoparticles interacting with hydrogen gas is used here. This type of approach would be a good idea whether he's faking or not.

I haven't noticed any glaring errors in the report, but I'm no expert. The only argument here could be is - the customer is a fake too? Hard to say.. this is taking place in Bologna after all :0

The full customer report (warning: it's a .pdf):
www.nyteknik.se...

edit on 30-10-2011 by yampa because: (no reason given)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS!
Stars!

Originally posted by onecraftydude
I thought as soon as I was able to show the reaction of the plasma causing the resistance break-down in the water and the subsequent plunge in watt consumption while doing the same work I would be fighting off offers for R&D money.

No such luck.

here is a link to my device: www.youtube.com...

Your video says you used 370 watts to heat 3 quarts of water 78 degrees F in one hour.

I did the math. A 100% efficient electric heater would take 142 watts to do the same thing, but since they aren't 100% efficient let's say it's 95% efficient, so it would take 150 watts.

Why would I want something that takes 370 watts to do something that should only take 150 watts?

You're probably wasting energy in the creation of the plasma, that's where you're losing 200 watts or so.

And I thought Rossi's video left a lot of unanswered questions, yours is even harder to follow than Rossi's. I think Rossi gave the best explanation when he had an interviewer walk him through the process from all the inputs to all the outputs. Your video should do something like that too.

Originally posted by ahmonrarh
i didnt look through all pages, but below is a video link that's 25min in length, pertaining to the E-cat Device.

not sure if anyone else has see this video or not so here what ive got so far
Well seeing i have watched half of it and i had to stop right there

Andrea Rossi sidekick that helped him with the project

Sergio Focardi

has said this its Nuclear reaction not chemical reaction

(6:30 to 8:00+ mark of the Video )
A fusion of Hydrogen & Nickel becomes Copper but he said he is not sure How ?

And Copper does what People It make a Great Heat Conductor!

a little after the above mark
He then said this ! There is a Secret Additive Added to the Process of Nickel and Hydrogen ?????

I would sure like to know what that Additive is?

as Ive Heard that the reason he will not reveal the Additive is he trying to get the Patents First ?

it makes perfect sense ...

COLD FUSION REACTOR - Cold Fusion Reactor

At the increased temperature, the nucleus becomes “excited” according to Focardi. When the proton penetrates the nickel nucleus, nickel is turned into copper. The copper is also “excited,” and starts to decay, emitting the excess energy. Spent copper is left in a reduced mass which accounts for the excess energy production. Due to the presence of proprietary ingredients, there is a lot of speculation that the nickel might have gone through a special process. Speculation will continue. One explanation is that the additional (secret) additive somehow promulgates the change from molecular hydrogen to atomic hydrogen.

www.coldfusionreactor.org...

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errors in the report ?

not so much errors as anomilies :

read the report with care [ PS ignore all spelling mistakes ] but , for an " engineering report " the very structure of it is a hideous mess .

but do pay close attention to what is typed and what is hand written - the comparrision is interesting

i could go into nit picking details - but the killer is on page 3 :

conclusions

the results of the tests are satisfactory to accept the delivery

that is pre-typed - before the test data was ` added ` in handwritten annotations

what an assumption to make

it is evident that the " report " was typed before the test - because values and parameters typed up - have been altered with hand written corrections

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by Arken

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by Arken

Originally posted by LeTan
How long till the banks and profiteers buy out the plans and charge "maintenance cost" for free energy?

These first plants will cost around $2,000 per kilowatt to build one at a time, but once they are mass produced, Rossi expects the price to drop to around $100 per kilowatt installed.

But the average cost of a kWh in the US is 13 cents.

I'll be glad to sell you electricity at half his rate.

Ribbit

The total cost of the "Device" is $100 per kilowat installed.
In my house I need 3 KW. So an E-cat of $300 one time and for ever!

So your electric bill is only 39 cents a month right now?

Your math is screwed up!

Ribbit

Your math is screwed up, he needs 3kw/h, which is 39c/h (about $280/m)

Originally posted by Miccey
So how much would one cost me..??

I run a houshold and use aprox 25-30Kw/24Hrs, maybe more
if its a really cold wintersday.......

That would be just over 1Kw/h. At current costs that would be $2,000, but when it is available for personal home use Rossi says that should cost $100, total, with maintainence fees. Of course I believe he is a fraud.

Originally posted by yampa

Originally posted by Miccey
So how much would one cost me..??

I run a houshold and use aprox 25-30Kw/24Hrs, maybe more
if its a really cold wintersday.......

So, at 470kW/h for this unit, that's 15 of your houses? A small apartment building then.

Dunno how much it would cost. Looking through the list of stuff he has in there, none of it looks particularly exotic or expensive. The prototypes were very rough table top things that could not cost much at all.

But it's still only generating steam. That has to then be utilised by something that converts it into usable electrical energy - you will get some kind of loss there.

edit on 30-10-2011 by yampa because: (no reason given)

No that is not 15 houses, that is just over 1Kw/h (25-30/24), so about 440 houses.

Originally posted by Miccey
So at my end The E-Cat+Steampowerd generator at roughly 40kw
we are talking like 25-30k $.....

Thats half my yearly salary?!?!

40Kw/h should be enough for roughly 20 homes. So $2,500 per home, one time fee. Rossi says when this goes into production the cost will decline a lot, so that $2,500 will turn into $150. With the money you make after taxes in one day you will pay for all your electricity for years and years. I believe he is a fraud though myself.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Arken

 

Rossi saying the test happened, and Rossi saying the un-named customer is happy amd wants to stay un-named, and Rossi saying it is a breakthrough......

Hmm....

Exactly, because if I bought an amazing peice of machinery that saved me thousands of dollars, or millions of dollars perhaps, I wouldn't want anyone to know how good a businessman I was.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by ArMaP

 

errors in the report ?

not so much errors as anomilies :

read the report with care [ PS ignore all spelling mistakes ] but , for an " engineering report " the very structure of it is a hideous mess .

but do pay close attention to what is typed and what is hand written - the comparrision is interesting

i could go into nit picking details - but the killer is on page 3 :

conclusions

the results of the tests are satisfactory to accept the delivery

that is pre-typed - before the test data was ` added ` in handwritten annotations

what an assumption to make

it is evident that the " report " was typed before the test - because values and parameters typed up - have been altered with hand written corrections

How very scientific to have the conclusion ready before the experiment. I'm sold, no way this can be a fraud, Rossi is clearly psychic, it all makes sense now. Tesla is transmitting the information to Rossi from beyond the grave.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape

errors in the report ?

not so much errors as anomilies :

read the report with care [ PS ignore all spelling mistakes ] but , for an " engineering report " the very structure of it is a hideous mess .

Yes its a mess. I'm not worried about pre or post typed.
But a proper Heat / Energy balance sheet would be wecome and
can be made public without any loss to Rossi & Co

I find it curious that so many I would normally consider "educated, or intelligent" do not understand modern "power" generation.

I hate our obsession with "power". Nothing is lost, nothing gained. Free electrons are never free.

reply to post by OccamsRazor04


Any large power company would jump at the prospect of such a machine. Even if the machine is only used by a power producer, and never sold to retail, it represents very large business for companies like Siemens.

The lack of excitement, and this 'free' energy angle makes one suspicious.

Italy is in deep trouble, so about time a great invention (or pretense of great invention) comes from Italy.