Just caught occupiers stealing my water which we pay for.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Most of the Occupier supporters here are justifying the stealing of someone's else's stuff. What difference does it make how much it cost? The action shows the entitlement mentality that this movement has been associated with from the start. No wonder our country is going down the toilet, with so many people expecting everyone else to pay for their stuff.

More like no wonder the whole country is going down the toilet ..due to the 'selfish" mentality of not giving a damn about those who have nothing....to the point of denying them water.

Pretty much the mentality that OWS is fighting against..

Pure selfish uncaring attitudes towrds those who have little.

reply to post by spacekc929


It's not free if it comes out of the pocket of some one.

Taxation isn't voluntary. And it also means that services aren't free.

reply to post by spacekc929

but water is controlled by private corporations who make you pay for "water treatment"

"Water Treatment"?

Take a look at the history of sanitation. If it weren't for water treatment services(be it by the state or corporations) a lot of people would be dying of dysentery and other water borne diseases.

You are ridiculous.

Liberals should be happy about water treatment services private or public. It's one of the first things that are initiated in poor countries for GOOD REASONS.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by spacekc929

 

And then, some random guy they never saw before, who is wearing nice clothes and clearly has shelter and food, comes up to them and tells them to stop. You know what is probably going through their minds? "Who the hell is this guy, and what gives him the right to tell me I can't have anything when he has so much already?"

This line right there tells me everything I need to know about this mentality......

He clearly stated to them they were stealing, their reply was hostile........that does NOT go along with the "poor guys with no shelter" mentality......

These were entitled jerks, and apparently not the first time the officers had to deal with these particular people.....

"Someone who has food and shelter" OH those poor poor people...........GO HOME and you have food and shelter.........

Give me a break man, the justification of theft, and then them being RUDE about it, is mind numbing

and this isnt just "two people" . There are numerous accounts of theft going on with the OWS crowd......this whole "a few bad apples" is quickly going out the window, as poor behavior and loose moral fiber seem to be coming more then rule then the acception to it

edit on 28-10-2011 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)

These guys were probably homeless, and they acted hostile because they probably thought what they were doing would not be considered stealing, and they were thirsty, so then when a guy comes along who clearly has all the things that they didn't have and has the nerve to tell them to stop having the water because it's not theirs, they are going to respond hostilely!

I am not saying this is how it should or shouldn't be, but I am providing what is likely the mentality of the other side of the story. They don't think they are entitled to everything, but because they were thirsty and the water was right there, and they didn't realize that someone would get angry about it, they probably thought it would be okay. But instead of the OP opening up the conversation with "Hi guys, did someone from the complex say you could use this tap?" the OP said "Stop that!"

I'll try to provide an analogy that may be closer to home for both you and I: It's like when the President tells people to stop buying guns, even though he already has hundreds of thousands of guns. Don't you feel like you deserve at least one when he has so many? Don't you feel like he is a giant jerk when he is telling you that you can't have a gun, especially when you personally feel that it's a life and death decision for you in terms of protecting yourself and your family?

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reply to post by MaximosPoena


your kiding right, a point, and what is this suposedly cosmic important point lol, 2 duders stole some water from is tap, and they where rude about it, maybe that was the end of the world event for28th oct

bah bah bah

Politeness and understanding goes a long way in any situation. It has the effect of making others more likely to be polite back.

Whether it is in relation to the situation the OP described, this thread or any other aspect of our lives, regardless of any of the participants’ stations in life.

PS. Sorry to keep harping on the politeness issue, but there is much mud-slinging going on here, and a reasoned approach will increase the value of all opinions.

;-j

I can't believe the posters who are defending the kids who stole your water.

If it was their water or property that was being stolen or used, I bet 100% of them would be angered and call the police.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by spacekc929

 

but water is controlled by private corporations who make you pay for "water treatment"

"Water Treatment"?

Take a look at the history of sanitation. If it weren't for water treatment services(be it by the state or corporations) a lot of people would be dying of dysentery and other water borne diseases.

You are ridiculous.

Liberals should be happy about water treatment services private or public. It's one of the first things that are initiated in poor countries for GOOD REASONS.

edit on 28-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

Sorry, I shouldn't have put it in quotes like that. But you missed the rest of my points and keep harping about me being against water treatment, which I am not saying at all. I am not saying water treatment is not important, I am in fact saying it's very important - I am saying that our taxpayer money should pay for it instead of being wasted on foreign wars over oil and bailouts, and we shouldn't be having private companies be in charge of water treatment, since it's a public resource through and through.

reply to post by NightGypsy


Right on. Exactly. I didn't touch on that part of his OP because it was actually just so absurd I didn't know how to approach it.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by L00kingGlass

 

I don't think that is true, maybe some places in canada it is so.

www.moncton.ca...

That is the closest large city to me, seems water is not free. I still wish OP was a bit more clear on the story though, there have been some interesting questions raised that were not answered.

It's payed for with taxes. If you live in Canada, you pay taxes.

It's there for everyone who pays taxes, and as Canadians those protesters pay taxes. Even people who don't pay taxes drink water, but most people don't care, it's water.

WATER.

reply to post by NightGypsy


Actually police would respond considering the hostile attitude of the people involved and the fact that they were TRESPASSING.

reply to post by NightGypsy



so you dont know what really happened............and the fact that he called the police and they responded makes him a liar?

So obviously he is relatively close to where the protests are happening........Its not out of the realm of possibility that the cops would come to a tresspassing and theft call?

Especially since, according to the cops this seems to be an issue with the protesters in that area......

P.s. you might want to refrain from name calling and attacking the op......

Originally posted by spacekc929
But the biggest question is, were they trespassing or weren't they?

It doesn't matter if they were hovering on air touching nothing but the water tap. The question is was it their building? Did they own the property? No it was private property, so theft. Unless the guy had the faucet on with a hose attached dangling in the street just running with a free water sign it's called stealing. Plain and simple, and thats what I believe the whole purpose behind the op's story. Doesn't matter what direction the faucet faced or location it was in.

I remember when water was a public commodity.

Give it a few decades and the private sector will have a monopoly on the air you breathe, and people will be complaining about others "stealing their air".

Though rudeness is not acceptable.

reply to post by spacekc929

I am saying that our taxpayer money should pay for it instead of being wasted on foreign wars over oil and bailouts, and we shouldn't be having private companies be in charge of water treatment, since it's a public resource through and through.

Most States provide water treatment. It isn't all corporations.

Here in Nevada, if it wasn't for corporations, we wouldn't have water.

I should also add that if you are a homeowner, even in a state that has state run treatment, you still get a bill in the mail. It is based on usage.

reply to post by Chalupas


No way. Most people aren't so whiny as to think the police are needed over every little incident.
Also most people would just allow them to take water if they needed it (especially since it costs only pennies).

I can't believe there are actually so many people on this site that agree with OP. He called the police over people filling a water jug from his spigot while he was out.

That's insane. Show a little compassion guys.. and then if you still don't like what is going on, then show a little back bone.

reply to post by projectvxn


Lol yea cause nobody knows how to get clean water in this day an age, they all get it from coca cola lol, we need corporations like we need herpes lol

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

I can't believe there are actually so many people on this site that agree with OP. He called the police over people filling a water jug from his spigot while he was out.

you cant believe so many on this site believe in principle?

Wow thats a sad statement...........

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by spacekc929

 

It's not free if it comes out of the pocket of some one.

Taxation isn't voluntary. And it also means that services aren't free.

Oh my God, you are really annoying me because you keep twisting around my words.

Education = free for all (ie, doesn't have a cost beyond taxes). In other words, open to anyone.
Water = not free for all. As in, if you don't have a house or cannot pay your utilities, you do not have access to it.

Yes, there are taxes behind this, I understand that, and I understand taxation is not voluntary. But my point is that water is just as much of a public resource and should therefore be paid for by public funds and be open to the public - water should not be allowed to be called private property in the first place! It should be paid for by taxes! It should not be something that has to be earned - it should be like public education, or Social Security, which everyone is entitled to based on the fact that they are a US citizen, NOT based on the fact that they have paid more or less into the system than others.