500 Longshoremen Storm a Government Building, Take Hostages (Longview, Washington)

reply to post by newcovenant
Oh believe me I realize that LOL I had to listen to it day in, day out growing up. My dad and his brothers fought really hard FOR unions, which is why he got so disgusted with them later in life when he saw what he fought for becoming like the thing they fought against.

Was this over the grain they spilled? What did they do this for?

Am I reading this thread correctly?

"Here is something that happened! Get upset!"
"Actually it is a lie, something different happened."
"We all know what would have happened if what I said happened actually happened though, don't we? Wink wink, nudge nudge."

I am not sure what I am supposed to be upset about. The thing that actually happened or the thing the OP is upset about not actually happening in response to what did happen as opposed to what the headline says did happen.

reply to post by Cinaed


I feel sorry for you americans that you have been duped into being against unions. The unions are the only thing that can protect you from being exploited by the corporations.

The corporations are really happy when they hear workers that are against unions, because that means they have more suckers to exploit.

If you had stronger unions, maybe all your workplaces wouldnt have ended up in China, and maybe you wouldnt have been so poor, and your safety- and enviornment regulations would have been better.


Somehow you (americans) have been duped into believing that unions are un-american or something. I believe its the result from a good PR scheme that has deprived you (workers) of power. We need to teach the corporations and government that we will not be pushed around so easily, and violence or destruction of property is an effective way of sending a strong message (lets face it, harsh words are often not enough).

reply to post by FallenWun


Be upset over things that never happen or will happen but to people you disagree with when it happens or not happens while something else isn't happening.

reply to post by AlphaFlein
wow....that was a whole lot of opinion when I never said I believe ANY of those things,, nor do I believe anything of the thing you just judged me of... lol too funny but I have to say... This kind of talk IS why many Americans call people that speak like you just did THUGS

You read much into very few words I uttered

I feel sorry for you as well

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

yeah well my alliiegence lays with the peope who pay me and not those people who I HAVE TO PAY

funny how thats fits both unions and government

Wow... spoken with a true slave mentality. Are you SERIOUS??

reply to post by beezzer


What I wrote actually made sense though. It was not just a random pile of words. Basically I find it a little sad that the first thread I see at the top of the front page was nothing but troll bait. If you want to be upset about what actually happened, I understand. What this is about though is what some think "would" or "might" happen had it been something completely different.

reply to post by FallenWun


Its all about bias. Take it from there.

Originally posted by AlphaFlein
reply to post by Cinaed

 

I feel sorry for you americans that you have been duped into being against unions. The unions are the only thing that can protect you from being exploited by the corporations.

The corporations are really happy when they hear workers that are against unions, because that means they have more suckers to exploit.

If you had stronger unions, maybe all your workplaces wouldnt have ended up in China, and maybe you wouldnt have been so poor, and your safety- and enviornment regulations would have been better.


Somehow you (americans) have been duped into believing that unions are un-american or something. I believe its the result from a good PR scheme that has deprived you (workers) of power. We need to teach the corporations and government that we will not be pushed around so easily, and violence or destruction of property is an effective way of sending a strong message (lets face it, harsh words are often not enough).

now the worm tables have turned.

china is waking up to the workers now, too.

google "union busters"

ask hoffa where his dad is, i bet he knows.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by FallenWun

 

Its all about bias. Take it from there.

Bias from whom
aimed at what?

reply to post by AlphaFlein


Ah, ok, sorry. It was not attack on your post or ideas, I just used your post (which was kind of relevant) to vent some of my frustration regarding the anti-union ideals that I observe in the general american culture and in some americans posting here at ATS.

(unfortunatly I also observe these ideals are spreading to some segments of the population in norway, where unions are a strong force to be reckoned with for the moment)

I have long thought about commenting around this issue, and finally I did get to it, even though it is sligthly off-topic.

Unions are not (just) socialism, it is about not being exploited (too much) by the rich and corporations. We are all exploited enough as it is.

I think it is good that these workers actually stood up to the corporations physically, wish I was as brave as them.

And yet these people, dumping actual farm produce, at least in the vicinity of a harbour, have more in common with the original tea party, than those poor persecuted teabaggers will ever have.

reply to post by Cinaed



Yes, like the corporatins aint thugs?

reply to post by FallenWun
Sighmedia bias against the Tea Party primarily. But also political bias. After weeks of slamming the Tea Party, the unions do something extreme and gets little or no coverage.
If this was done by the Tea Party, the coverage would have been different.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by FallenWun

 

Sighmedia bias against the Tea Party primarily. But also political bias. After weeks of slamming the Tea Party, the unions do something extreme and gets little or no coverage.
If this was done by the Tea Party, the coverage would have been different.

Bias against the TEA Party? Where? I Read the OP and it is about longshoremen. How are you finding bias against the TEA Party in a story that has nothing to do with them? Just because you made up that lie of a title, that proves someone else did something?

Do I need to read the OP again? Did I miss something?

reply to post by fooks

Thanks for mentioning Hoffa! I considered it but decided not to.

Honestly I don't think which kind of group people talk about. Most start out decent enough, with good intentions and results...over time when they grow in size and power; corruption always eeks it's way in.

All of them, Unions, Corporations, Governments, Churches........the list is endless

Whoa... LONGVIEWWWW!!! That's where I'm from... can't believe that they made the headlines. Makes me proud.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by FallenWun

 

Sighmedia bias against the Tea Party primarily. But also political bias. After weeks of slamming the Tea Party, the unions do something extreme and gets little or no coverage.
If this was done by the Tea Party, the coverage would have been different.

You know what's really kind of funny in a way? The MSM has to play down the Union thug protests in order to contain the damage as everyone now can compare the Union violence with the calm of the Tea Party rallies. We saw violence and hatred and destruction in Wisconsin when the Unions trashed the Capitol there and Tea Party people cleaned up.
Who are the ones who behave more like Ghandi?

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
too true! I don't hear much from the political leaders either. But then again, why would they slam their own supporters?