New ATS Member Claiming To Have Important Warning/Information. You Be The Judge...

reply to post by kdog1982


The anitpode (opposite side of the world) to Hindu Kush is in the South Pacific Ocean off the coast of Chile unless I am doing something wrong. Here is the link...it's pretty neat. You can put in just a place name or even grid coordinates and it will give you the opposite side of the world.
link:www.antipodr.com...

I think Mike is talking about Antipodes.

I could be wrong (something I'm not afraid to experience) but I believe that it is a debated topic and not considered settled by any means.

I invite you to take a look at this video to get an idea of why this would be important in a seismic situation:

Apologies for the mis-post on the video, this should fix:

Google Video Link

Now Picture the earth and seismic energy doing that. There is an image in the (dated) GESS report that I have been having trouble uploading to my ATS media (I've sen puterman mention this trouble too and a few others) which illustrates this nicely for a still image.

This linked video actually demontrates the movement of seismic waves (energy) from moderate to large quakes as they propagate through the lithosphere. Obviously the larger the quake the farther the energy will travel and be able to interact with more areas of seismic potential. Keep in mind that what we call a "locked" or "stuck" fault why you are referring to as an area of stored seismic energy.

When a rupture occurs, that energy is released very suddenly, the potential transfforms into kinetic energy (among many types) and it travels out away from the hpyocenter.

This post I made a few pages back goes in to a bit more detail but was unfortunately the last post on a page when many posts were being made quickly and I fear many may have missed it.

More to come in a bit.




I'm dense, Mike isn't referring to the antipode in this situation, as Afghanistan is north of the equator, as is CA. But it is nearly 180 degrees removed from that point. This will still be a resonant area with the Hindu Kush region in as much as it is 180 degrees from the point of indication.

There are probably resonances at the 30, 60, and 90 degree marks also now that I think about it.

reply to post by relyt

I posted something on here about a quake that affect many faults in California.

I found it.

Mexico Quake Studies Uncover Surprises for CA From ScienceDaily New technologies developed by NASA and other agencies are revealing surprising insights into the M7.2 El Mayor-Cucapah earthquake that rocked parts of the American Southwest and Mexico in April 2010, including increased potential for more large earthquakes in Southern California. Researchers have found the earthquake is among the most complex ever documented along the Pacific/North American plate boundary. The main shock activated segments of at least six faults, some unnamed or previously unrecognized. It triggered slip along faults north of the border as far as 165 km (about 100 miles) away, including the San Andreas, San Jacinto, Imperial and Superstition Hills Faults, and many faults in California's Yuha Desert. Some of this slip was quiet, without detectable earthquakes. Activity was observed on several northwest-trending faults due for potentially large earthquakes. For the full article, visit www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/2010/12/101220150343.htm

When I do the antipode (Opposite side of the world) of Seattle it takes you south east of South Africa in the Indian ocean.
LA is due east of South Africa, south east of Madagascar, still in the Indian ocean

link www.antipodr.com...

reply to post by Cherryontop

Edit to add, if there is any doubt as to this threads validity, any Mod around who has watched what this has evolved into should make this right and remove the HOAX label.

I personally think that the Hoax section is the perfect spot for this thread...for the moment. It keeps good people focused and doing an excellent work, without being interrupted by floods of useless posts, as if it was on the front page. And I also think that many Mods have their eyes on it. I would even go as far as thinking that the Admins are watching it as well.

reply to post by jadedANDcynical

Yes it worked thanks. Interesting concept I sort of had the same thought. So what would be the average travel time for the waves to make it that far across the earth?
And regarding to the M8 algo they could have been tracking all of this for a while and getting more precise data after each hit? Just a thought.

reply to post by relyt


This page is specifically for this quake:

Date-Time
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 at 11:26:16 UTC
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 at 03:56:16 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
36.451°N, 70.367°E
Depth
214.9 km (133.5 miles)
Region
HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
Distances
76 km (47 miles) SSW of Faizabad, Afghanistan
149 km (92 miles) WNW of Chitral, Pakistan
156 km (96 miles) SW of Khorugh, Tajikistan
240 km (149 miles) NNE of KABUL, Afghanistan
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 18.4 km (11.4 miles); depth +/- 5.8 km (3.6 miles)
Parameters
NST= 44, Nph= 49, Dmin=243.8 km, Rmss=1.19 sec, Gp= 76°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usc0005u6b

source

Each quake listed (I think , one of the veteran quake watchers will correct me here I hope) by the USGS will have a "Scientific & Tecnical" tab under the details which will show you this map with travel times for major cities.

As a side note. I discovered there are 82 volcanoes in the Cascadia area from BC, Canada down through California.

The breakdown is:
20 in British Columbia
9 in Washington
41 in Oregon
12 California

I apologize to all of you West Coasters who probably already know that. I'm landlocked and had no idea we had that many in this part of the world. There's the 300th thing I learned today!

link en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by kdog1982


Very interesting - thanks for finding it.

I was hoping we would hear from
tmiddlebrook today but its getting
late now and I have my doubts.
I have been on needles and pins all
day, finding my sell watching the web
cam and reading a lot. Not sure how
much I absorbed

reply to post by relyt


Each tremor is more info fed into the equation.
And the historical data on major quakes that they were able to see before and after adds into the equation.

reply to post by megabogie

As a side note. I discovered there are 82 volcanoes in the Cascadia area from BC, Canada down through California. The breakdown is: 20 in British Columbia 9 in Washington 41 in Oregon 12 California

I use to live on the Oregon coast (10 years) and
I had no idea there were that many volcanos but
I knew there were quiet a few. Lava rock is the
most common rock to find on the coast, I can
imagine what the activity was like long ago.

reply to post by megabogie


Ok well looking through quakesim.com and the monitors on Mount Shasta since that happened today. There there has been readings of measurement changes within the past month up till the 3rd of this month.Also only on one monitor (NW). After that the the other monitors have been down since then.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by Cherryontop

 

Edit to add, if there is any doubt as to this threads validity, any Mod around who has watched what this has evolved into should make this right and remove the HOAX label.

I personally think that the Hoax section is the perfect spot for this thread...for the moment. It keeps good people focused and doing an excellent work, without being interrupted by floods of useless posts, as if it was on the front page. And I also think that many Mods have their eyes on it. I would even go as far as thinking that the Admins are watching it as well.


Ok, I get it, and also the "keeping the riff raff out", I get that too. I am just one of many I guess who have followed every post in this and corresponding threads, clicked every link and researched right along with the ones who are making posts and great contributions. I feel an investment in this even though it seems I am only hung up on the label. So with the caveat of " for the moment" I will try to be more proactive, rather than reactive.

reply to post by relyt


Is it "normal" for their monitors to be down like that?

@crazy daisy...I was Shocked at all of them especially Oregon. 41 in one state?!? You must have earned your screen name while you lived out west!

reply to post by megabogie

ok guys, not only do i find the antipode correlation strange ... but i landed in the middle of the sea too ... so, i loooooked harrrrder and this is some of what i found ...
closest antipode region to Afghanistan is ... duh, duh, duh ... the Falkland Islands.

yes, in the middle of the ocean ... BUT
are you aware of what Else is going on in the Falklands ???

perhaps we should indulge further, here's why

Link 1
Tim Bushell, Chief Executive of FOGL, said, "The Toroa exploration well was the first well in a previously undrilled frontier basin and although the outcome was disappointing the full analysis of the data has provided encouragement. The mid Cretaceous and Tertiary plays are entirely unaffected by the result and we are pursuing these in 2011. As such we have decided to undertake further site surveys in the now 100% owned southern license area. In the meantime, we continue to work to secure a suitable deepwater rig and negotiations are currently underway."

if you follow the story, SEVERAL shale plays are in motion ... we all know where that leads, right?
here's more:

link 2
The most encouraging CSEM anomalies have been identified over the following 7 prospects: Loligo, Garrodia, Nimrod, Caird, Toroa, Lutra and Undine. These prospects also benefit from seismically derived direct hydrocarbon indications. All of these features could contain large amounts of oil and gas, with individual prospects containing potential recoverable volumes (mean un-risked resources) ranging up to 3,500 million barrels. FOGL has focussed its work during the last year on a shortlist of ten prospects, which promise to offer the lowest exploration risk and largest resource volumes. This prospect inventory has the potential to hold, on a cumulative basis, in excess of 10 billion barrels oil equivalent (mean, un-risked resources). In addition, FOGL has identified over 90 other leads, which are not included in this estimate.

** emphasis mine

now, i'm not sure by any stretch of the imagination if this is what Mike references, however, it is certainly worth looking into further.

Not far from this patch of land soon to be exploited is the South Sandwich Islands.
and for those paying attention, seismic adjustments are frequently recorded there.

Also notice, these are not deepwater OIL wells but Hydrocarbon/shale plays ... like Arkansas only much deeeeeeper, more mysterious (due to lack of evaluation and failure of initial well - see above links), unproven, seismically active and wow ... wowowow

i hope i'm really out in left field with this one but by the coordinates and suggested search parameters, this is some of what i've found.
can anyone imagine a disaster like the GoM x50 or so ???
if the GoM rigs are threatened by wind and rain ... what kind of damage do YOU think the region would be likely to produce ??
cue the teammates, please

reply to post by Honor93


So,in other words,they are fracking us to death.
Sooner or later we are going to have to resort to other sources of energy,or be forced into it by mother earth.

reply to post by kdog1982

ya know, i really dislike being on the wrong side of her wrath (Mother Earth) ... but it appears as though we're about to be enveloped by it ;(

i will say this ... geeez i hope i'm wrong.
one other thing came to mind after plinking around the islands ... something Mike actually said

Just to give you all an idea of why I mentioned the Afghani region, have a look on Google earth or wherever and see what part of the world is almost exactly 180 degrees away from 36 to 37 N and 60 degrees E. That is, exactly on the other side of the world, you see. (Namely, around 36 to 37 N and 120 W.)

perhaps, i/we are looking in entirely the wrong direction.
He didn't mention antipode ... he described the opposite parallel position (180 degrees different) [which is not the antipode] i wonder if he's considering the surface/wave cycles rather a path through the earth?

so, given that specific instruction, let's see where we land ...
last Afghanistan recorded at 36.40N, 70.51E ~~ 180 degrees opposite lands us (almost) smack dab in the middle of the Carrizo Plain (ie SanAndreas) just outside and southwest of Fresno, CA (@ 36.5N, 120W)

now this sounds more like where Mike was leading us but who's to say -- we are all connected.
after doing this exercise, to be honest folks ... watching these patterns as long as i have, really leads me to the antipode correlation more than the 'opposite' latitude ... at least where mag transference is concerned.

i'm not discounting the surface correlation (latitude) or it's participation in the cyclical evolution, however, when contemplating transference of energy, i still think the path of least resistance is most optimal.
any opinions on this hypothesis?

reply to post by Honor93

Lets get to the root of the hypothesis.
Let Mike explain where he is coming from.
I'm sorry,I just don't see it.
That's all I got.

I'm dense, Mike isn't referring to the antipode in this situation, as Afghanistan is north of the equator, as is CA. But it is nearly 180 degrees removed from that point. This will still be a resonant area with the Hindu Kush region in as much as it is 180 degrees from the point of indication.

There are probably resonances at the 30, 60, and 90 degree marks also now that I think about it.

edit on 15-9-2011 by jadedANDcynical because: duh

reply to post by Honor93


A couple of posts above yours on the same page

Take what I've said about resonance and apply it to seismic phenomena. It's merely energy of a specific vibration. It's direction, intensity, angle of presentation, and a host of aspects are modified by the material through which is passes.

Suppose seismic stress in a "locked" fault has a specific rate at which it vibrates.

We suggest that the migrating tremor records triggered slow slip of the San Andreas fault as a propagating creep event. We find that the triggered tremor and fault creep can be initiated by distant earthquakes as small as magnitude 5.4 and can persist for several days after the seismic waves have passed. Our observations of prolonged tremor activity provide a clear example of the delayed dynamic triggering of seismic events. Fault creep has been shown to trigger earthquakes10, 11, 12, and we therefore suggest that the dynamic triggering of prolonged fault creep could provide a mechanism for the delayed triggering of earthquakes.

From the article posted in Nature.

Are there any other ETS, or slow slip faults in the world?

If so, I tell you what I need to see.

You know that app that shows who's visiting a site on a spinning globe?

I need to see the location of these quakes presented like that.


Taking another look at the video of the water bubble (I know the astronaut by the way), if you look at the same "latitude" at which the puff of air impacts the water (epicenter) the area 180 degrees away is oscillating pretty substantially. Yes, the antipode is also, but it's more concentric.

The area at the same height above the "equator" but 180 around is bouncing up and down like a trampoline

Google Video Link

reply to post by kdog1982

no need to apologize, we're all learning together
never said i was sure and certainly don't mind learning something new (Fracking on Falkland)
why not hypothesize kdog, isn't that what we humans have been doing since day 1?
i'm sure Mike will clarify himself later.