New ATS Member Claiming To Have Important Warning/Information. You Be The Judge...

reply to post by onthelookout

Ya that is the one I was referring to also. If you scroll down a little on the quake watch page 261 someone has the screenie and a snapshot of the waves given off of it.

reply to post by westcoast

No, it was a different quake entirely, WC. And it wasn't just changed, it got deleted. Here's my post where I logged the data page details when it showed up as a Mag 3.6. (Scroll down in the post past the Fiji details as it's in an ETA.)

Then when it got auto-upgraded to a mag 4.3 I posted the new data page here.

Note that this quake was also very deep by California standards. 76.8 km (47.7 miles).

Yes, I also wondered about subduction but then they deleted the thing and I was fuming and not sure what to think.

Whatever, the data's saved in this thread at least.

Mike

reply to post by JustMike

Meanwhile, I'd like to ask members to keep an eye out for any significant quake activity in the region of Nth Afghanistan, especially around the Hindu Kush region and NW towards Tajikistan and over to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, which all border the Afghani region I mentioned. There was a mag 4.5 in the Hindu Kush region yesterday (ie Wednesday) and while it could be significant I am more concerned about potential events at least a mag higher.

Magnitude
4.4
Date-Time
Thursday, September 15, 2011 at 22:03:37 UTC
Friday, September 16, 2011 at 02:33:37 AM at epicenter
Location
36.401°N, 70.511°E
Depth
146.8 km (91.2 miles)
Region
HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
Distances
79 km (49 miles) S of Faizabad, Afghanistan
136 km (84 miles) WNW of Chitral, Pakistan
152 km (94 miles) SW of Khorugh, Tajikistan
241 km (149 miles) NNE of KABUL, Afghanistan
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 15.7 km (9.8 miles); depth +/- 12.2 km (7.6 miles)
Parameters
NST= 43, Nph= 49, Dmin=246 km, Rmss=1.17 sec, Gp= 94°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=5
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usc0005vje

earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by relyt


I just went to check the post you referred to on the quake watch, and yep...same one I saw. So Mt Shasta. A 4.3 at Mt Shasta would be some scary poop.

Especially if quakes at other volcanoes in the region started picking up. Especially in regards to westcoast's theories about the shared magma chambers and ... and...

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This is becoming bananas. b-a-n-a-n-a-n-a-s

reply to post by JustMike


WOW! How dumb am I for missing that one?
Head buried in the sand,sort of.
Thanks!

reply to post by JustMike


JustMike, a quick question. As I am less than a year into my EQ learning...any good suggestion for a Blackberry friendly EQ notification site?

reply to post by zworld

In case some readers might think you're exaggerating I'd like to back up at least some of what you're saying. It's a matter of scientific record that the megathrust event of Jan 26, 1700, off the coast of the PNW generated a tsunami that definitely reached 30 metres in some places. (For anyone who's not used to metric, that's pushing close to 100 feet.) It's also generally accepted by the scientists who studied this event that a future megathrust along the same subduction zone could involve a fracture 600 kilometres long or more. (Around 400 miles.)

If there are demands for evidence and links, then I can proivide them. Or others on the thread can who've got the same data I have. But I assure all readers that the CSZ (Cascadia Subduction Zone) is a real beast.

It is also known that there have been several events in this region in the past, at varying intervals. I recall figures with a low interval in the region of about 200-odd years and up to around 1,000 years. I'd have to check my references for more precise details. However a few years here or there don't really matter because the point is -- as zworld says -- these things let go when they let go. If anyone hears or reads that the CSZ is "overdue" then I'd point out that a subduction zone is not a bus or a baby. It's not running to some preset timetable and so terms like "overdue" are misleading and unscientific. The only thing we know is that it has already been 311 years since the last big one there, and there have been previous events at shorter intervals than that.

Here's the simple truth: the CSZ could let go with a massive, megathrust event at any time. It could happen right now, or tomorrow, or next month. Or it could be in a year, ten years, or even a couple of centuries. But it is almost certain that one day, it is going to let go and when it does, all previous seismic events experienced within the USA since its founding will pale into insignificance in comparison. Not even the huge Alaska quake in the 1960s comes close, as that was a far more localized event in terms of movement than this megathrust event is going to be.

I am not saying this to scaremonger. If you tell your kids to look both ways before crossing the street so they don't get run down by a car, is that scaremongering? No, it's giving them the plain truth to help them stay alive. Stating the facts is not scaremongering. And even if you live in a quiet area, you still tell them to check the road, right? Sure, they could look both ways many times and never see a car close by, but does that mean they should stop looking? No, because Murphy's Law says the one time you don't look, that's when the car will come barrelling down the road.

Not seeing it won't help you if it hits you.

This is the same. There are many, many people who sincerely believe the "big one" is going the be an event on the San Andreas fault system somewhere. But a megathrust on the CSZ could release more than 1,000 times energy than the Loma Prieta quake of 1989. We're talking about mag 9-plus versus the Loma Prieta's mag 6.9 or 7.0 (depending on sources). One thousand times more energy. In land regions near the megathrust, there will be violent shaking that can last for several minutes, non-stop: and it will be shaking 100 times stronger than Loma Prieta did.

The San Andreas is not the "big one". It's bad, yes, but the real big one lies offshore, and that's the worry, because while it might be centered offshore, the plate moves under the land, right down from Washington, through Orgeon, and into northern California. It might even extend further south. We don't know. No-one knows for sure. But living some miles in from the coast is no assurance that you won't feel the effects.

The Cascadia Subduction Zone is the sleeping giant. It's there. It's not going away. With good fortune, it may not do more than hiccup a little in our entire lifetimes or even in our grandchildren's lifetimes. But for anyone who lives in that part of the world, you have to bear in mind that sooner or later, it will wake up. It doesn't mean you live in constant fear of it. You just need to acknowledge its existence and accept that it can do far worse than even the Japan quake did.

And yes, if you live near the coast, you need to know how to get to high ground in a hurry, at any time of the day or night.

That's not fearmongering. That's using the good sense the good Lord gave you.

I hope we never see the day the CSZ lets go. I really do. I don't even live there but by the Lord it's not something I ever want to witness even via my TV.

Forgive me if I've said too much.

Mike

reply to post by kdog1982

Glad to be of service. And you are far from having your head in the sand.
It's a great program but I have to warn you that it's highly addictive.

reply to post by Glinda

Glinda, that's a good question and doubtless some other members would like to know as well. I wish I could help you with this but I don't even possess a Blackberry. They're quite rare in my part of the world. Westcoast might know, though.

Best regards,

Mike

Mike, I'm curious about why you zeroed in on the Hindu Kush area of Afghanistan, especially since a quake did happen there after you brought it up.

reply to post by berkeleygal

Berkeleygal, thanks for the heads up on that one. It's 2 am here and I'm struggling to keep track of all that's going on.

I was expecting another quake in that region (hence my post, obviously), but this one has popped up even sooner than I thought it would. Have to admit I'm a bit surprised by it as I thought it wouldn't happen for around another day or so, and maybe not for up to three days at the outside. But sometimes they seem to come in earlier. Weird, that. Thankfully, though, this new one is still a bit on the low side. I'm mostly concerned about ones over mag 5, which is a fair amount more energy release than this new mag 4.4. All the same, it's bothersome. If there's another, larger quake there, especially more to the west of that one towards 60 degree E longitude, then it's even more bothersome. Oh, the same applies if there's (say) another two or three mid-range mag 4's. But a 5-plus is a bigger concern because it's releasing more energy in one go.

Yes, there could well be more quakes in that region in the next 72 hours. It wouldn't surprise me at all. In fact as this new one's come in so soon I'd be more surprised if there aren't.

Just to give you all an idea of why I mentioned the Afghani region, have a look on Google earth or wherever and see what part of the world is almost exactly 180 degrees away from 36 to 37 N and 60 degrees E. That is, exactly on the other side of the world, you see. (Namely, around 36 to 37 N and 120 W.)

If you see where it is then you'll probably follow what I'm looking at and might understand why I've been stewing over this for a while now. I was very reluctant to even post about it but I guess it's better that I did.

The other day (yesterday??) I posted that a seismic event could occur elsewhere that might seem unconnected (to the matter at hand in the US) but actually is connected, but in ways that are either not understood or even considered possible. Words to that effect. It's in the thread here somewhere. I think!

Anyway, this latest quake in Afghani Hindu Kush is basically what I was talking about. It's the connection I meant. One of them, anyway.

Okay, I need to sleep. I'll explain more later if anyone's interested. Night, all. Stay safe. Please.

Mike

Reply to post by JustMike

I don't have a blackberry, but a Droid. I have earthquake. I just did a search through the market and downloaded actually two programs. Each does a little bit different things. I just read through the reviews and went from there. Both are linked to usgs and also Google maps.


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reply to post by zworld


I was just getting ready to say after reading that post that it could quite possibly be the most frightening thing I have ever read here, and for a site that talks about everything from nuclear war to alien invasion to Sarah Palin possibly ever holding office again, that's saying something.

Then I read JustMikes post on this page.

Holy Toledo, there are days I wish I was illiterate, today is one such day.
Ignorance truly is bliss.

Edit to add, if there is any doubt as to this threads validity, any Mod around who has watched what this has evolved into should make this right and remove the HOAX label. This thread has provided and or encouraged more vital information than 75% or the threads that are on the front page at any given time.
Just sayin.

reply to post by JustMike


As I posted earlier, the geographical center of California is 37.09'58"n 119.26'58"w...
2nd

when i look up the antipode to hind kush it gives me -36.89S -106.73w...a spot in the South Pacific way off the coast of Chile?!?

link www.antipodr.com...

Originally posted by megabogie
when i look up the antipode to hind kush it gives me -36.89S -106.73w...a spot in the South Pacific way off the coast of Chile?!?

link www.antipodr.com...

I was wondering how the 37th parallel tied into the 188 days theory.Not saying it does,just wondering.
Anyone care to gander?

reply to post by kdog1982


I respect all the work Mike has put into this thread, but I wondered how the US could be on the opposite side of the world as Afghanistan

reply to post by Cherryontop


We kind of like it this way,for two purposes.
For one,we don't know if this is a hoax.
Second,we like to keep the riff-raff out.
Not saying you are riff-raff,but you know what I mean.
We could use all the input you could muster.

reply to post by kdog1982


I"m not sure that it specifally ties in but because there's been so much activity at the 37 degree latitude it's been bandied around

reply to post by megabogie

Has something to do with the propagation of waves from earthquakes through the core of the earth,like a ripple effect you might say.
He was saying that it is basically,on the opposite of the world,if I understood it correctly.
Like a water balloon.You hit one side of it and you should see the effect of it on the opposite side.
And it doesn't have to be the opposite side,it could be anywhere on the globe.
I think you have to look at how the tectonic plates are connected around the world.
One gets bumped,it bumps into another.

reply to post by kdog1982


Ok then looking at it that way would it not be in the Indian ocean or somewhere near. Since it would have to be in the southern hemisphere? No idea just askin.