Aliens = Nephilim (Demons)

reply to post by seekeroftruthkiss


Rather than saying. "Go look for your own proof" back up your claims.

Originally posted by Nobama
I find it hard to believe that demons are in fact aliens, why would demons come from the sky? I was always inclined to believe the bible says demons live in hell, which is below us (or somewhere below). I do believe in Aliens though, there's no way we are the only species in existence, but to say these other species are simply demons would be nonsense..

Hell is the rejection of God. God would be the light and love.

It is a state of mind not a material place in the sense you seem to think.

6 is the number of man and the material world. 666 is the anti-christ, or ruler in place of, on Earth.
7 is the number of heaven. 777 being God (Jesus) and their kingdom is in the spirit world not the material one.

Does this clear some things up for you?

They are beings of light. So what does it matter that they fly around in the sky.

It is very likely that there are aliens, just many clues lead one to feel that the ones involved with the government are in fact something alien and not exactly the aliens you want them to be.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Any proof for those claims? Just because the Bible says something doesnt mean its true.

And the person i saw wasnt related to me. It was a lady who died in my house before my family moved there.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration



by comparing "grey aliens" to "demons" you are doing nothing more than comparing semantics.. wording.. labelling..

i mean.. wha tthe hell type of name of label is "grey alien" anyway?? quite bland actually..

and what do you describe a "demon" as? one who is de-monic? meaning.. apart from the Monad? the One-ness? Mono?

these are all just words of rhyme...

reply to post by prevenge


I thought Daemons meant knowing or wise?

en.wikipedia.org...

Corrado Balducci...Demonologist/Exorcist at the Vatican, says that the Catholic Church does not believe demons are masquerading as aliens. In this video he explains why the Church believes ETs exist.

Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italian national television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due to psychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.

SOURCE

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by nastyj

 

I am glad we can agree that the "grey" aliens are malevolent spiritual beings, and not actually spacemen from other planets. It is interesting to hear your beliefs on this subject, i actually did quite abit of research into islam before i became a follower of Christ, i know there are some similarity between both faiths.

I just have to ask though, because i cannot help but see some flaws in your belief, like you say satan is not a fallen angel but you also say Djinn's are the equivalent to demons how can that be so?

When we earthlings have got free will, how come the angels will be denied free will? I am confused.

I see nothing in scripture saying so.

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Hi man, thanks for reading my long post, and let me apologise for the grammar and spellin mistakes etc. I can choose to write really formal with big words etc.. but theres no point. I dont like the fact people on here seem to compete with eachother on how intellectual they can make their comments appear to increase their status quo lol. If its readable and can be explained in the simplest way that is the best way to go about it.

For example religion, divine books, they were all revealed to the WHOLE of mankind, be they smart or dumb, of all backgrounds and social levels.. Gods word has been written like this so everyone can easily learn from it. He could easily have predicted everything and made things as complex as possible but whats the use of that? We will ened to decipher it etc etc.. but even then today we still find new meaning and hidden codes etc in them..

Sorry that was offtopic but yeah to get back to your points..

You asked 'satan is not a fallen angel but you also say Djinn's are the equivalent to demons how can that be so?'

Im not sure i understand you there mate, i think its quite clear, but ill try to elaborate..

Satan is a djinn/demon/alien In the Djinn species in Islam we believe there are numberous races within the Djinn world, each have different properties etc.. no point going too much into that you can research that easily..

Before the Rebellion Earth was populated by numerous Djinn, im not sure how it all fits in exactly and how the story goes but the majority of them were destroyed by God due to some problem or the other i forgot :/

But yeah Satan was one of the few remaining, he was the musician in heaven, (hence how music is one of the best forms of sin and indoctrination right now) he disobeyed God, didnt prostrate to Adam as God commanded and so was banished, he was asked for one wish to be able to subvert humanity and lead them astray from Allah if he could.. Since God being as merciful as he is and the Master of Schemers, he granted him this one wish as Lucifer had once been a loyal servant to God. This leads to the whole scheme or test being implemented for mankidn as God intended... Infact we believe that Satan himself is not even the worst person ever.. since he did at least believe in the One God and he merely just tried manipulating people etc.. We believe that when Satan is punished he will not be the ones in the lowest hells, as there are far far more dudes who are way more evil than him who ahve no belief in Gods omniscience that might have sinned more that Lucifer himself inlcuding man and djinn alike..

But i digress, yeah so it would be WAY more logical for him to be a Demon etc.. also when he tempted eve, he came as a serpent, we belivev djinns shapeshift into serpents... aka all that talk of reptilian aliens.. mabe draconians? the elite of the djinn world?? not sure.. but anyway yeah you see the direction of modern day symbolism IDOLISES dragons reptiles lizards snakes.. its everywhre... they are attirbuted to demons are they not?? that is further evidence to show Satan is a djinn etc..

The reason why in Biblican scripture he is called a fallen angel.. is in my opinion to give him more status.. as angels belong only in the kingdom of God.. Lucifer means bearer of light.. well we believe only God and his Angels are made of light.. so djinns do not fit this.. this gives satan more rank when in fact he is not. The bible has a lot of symbolism and stuff pointing towards Sun worship> fire worship.. Lucifer bearer of light ties with Prometheus etc who bought the light from the heaven to mankind.. In the bible there are too many links to paganism that is contradicts other monotheistic aspects eg.. Jesus worshipped the One God and said all worpship belong to him... yet in the New testaments the trinity comes about, and the trinity is used way too much in pagan circles i think it relates to Nimrod, and 2 other guys i cant seem to remember atm.. Basically From the Old testament to the New, it goes from monotheistic tendencies to Polytheistic.. and then all this Jesus dying and rebrith is totally pagan.. If you were to do research in pagan beliefs you wll see how self deification, immortality, self deification, sacrifice is totally pagan doctrines inside out...

Think about it this way.. Bible was passed down and altered by the hands of men, at those times it was the polytheistic Romans who were the superpower.. it is only natural they would use Christianity to further their aims as another form of indoctrination in infiltration..

Sorry if im offending you dude, i dont mean to... infact Islam has been infiltrated by pagan and esoteric doctrins hardcore aswell. The Shia sect deify the Imaams, as do numerous other sects, which lead down to pagan roots.. The cross is a pagan symbol, as is the moon and star.. that is why in Islam we belive it has no symbol to it.. We believe Jesus(pbuh) will come and take down all the crosses and establish pure monotheistic fatih..

Please do not think im trying to promote Islam, im not, in the other sects of islam like i said are totally erroneous and go against the teaching of the Quran and Sunnah.. All out prophets taught monotheism only.. it is when pagan influences come in is where all these partnerships to God come in.. thats why 'One God' is highly stressed in monotheistic teaching and the Quran.

With the Quran that is the only unaltered book left.. as it was memorised and passed on, the hadith have been passed on from generation upon generation too.. So the Sunnah and Quran cannot be infiltrated as was the case with previous books.

Sorry might have goe off topic again.. As for the part where Angels and free will. We believe they do not have free will, and strictly follow the precise commands of Allah.. why? because if they had free will everything would be a mess... It would make no sense whatsoever.. Allah uses the angles to carry out all his tasks if hes not doing it himself that is.. They are more numerous than any djinn or man ever been around and help control the functions of every aspect of life as directed by God. eg. for every raindrop there is a angel bringing it down..

Think about it logically what makes more sense? If angels had free will why arent they getting involved all the time with our activities as Demons are??

Its only the djinn worl and Us that have free will ad logically it makes sense that way..

If you want me to elaborate further ask me and i will try bro

Originally posted by caladonea
Here are some interesting quotes and a website about the UFO Bible connection which I believe proves there are beings from other planets.

"The Lord Yhovah of the Old Testament, who claimed to be the Lord Jesus of the New Testament, is described as flying in thick clouds, swift clouds, bright clouds, dark clouds, white clouds, low clouds great clouds, and fiery clouds......."

"There are 362 verses describing natural and manmade objects as vehicles in the Bible."

"The fact that the objects described in the Bible are controlled, flying craft, is borne out of the flight characteristics of those objects. In Bible text the objects associated with the Elohiym are shown to exhibit rapid , prolonged flight, they ascend and descend....."

Here is the link: www.bibleufo.com...

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I just wanted to add that the Universe was created....with all its solar systems, planets and galaxies....and other beings.

Say if true, maybe God did not look favorably upon the appearance of Nephilim because they weren't in His image?

Don't knock the things you can learn that are different from your beliefs.

If you can guys please read my long ass posts, im sure you will find alot of answers there..

I swear there is not enough muslims on these threads cos i see way too many of these debates where i know islam can add so much insight to :/

Everyone knocks religion because of christianity and biblical teachings etc... yet when it comes to Islam people knock it because of terrorists and derka derka lol.. There is so much knowledge you will find about science etc in Islam if yall did your research..

reply to post by Zeer0


No religion cant answer the question theve all been tampered with but there are bits of truth and important info in all religions take the truth and cast aside the lies, and no we dont no all the answers who says god created the universe or all the solar systems how do we no that god didnt just create us and a few planets of how do we know that there arent mutipule gods creating different beings all over and everywhere we dont and we prob wont no for a long time, the point is we have a creator and we are stuck and trapped here for whatever reason which nobody nos, but i believe sometime soon within the nxt few thousand years we will find our way home and we will know the truth,

theres many tales/ stories but from everything ive read including old africian history/ knowlege that has been pass down generation to generation that we have been intentionally cut off from our creator, also from the research i have done the aliens/ demons hate humans and want to trap us here with them, and make our life a living hell also through my research i have learnt that we were more powerful than them and they are jealous of us and will stop at nothing to weaken us and dumb us down, reason for flouride in water, chemicals to cure disease, babys being injected from birth with immune weakening drugs, herbs, vitamins and non gm organic food being restricted and eventually taken away. But dont take my word on it, i no what i say is true, the cure of all diseases is a healthy organic diet/ vegetarian and a chemical free life style, so that should make you wonder why pretty much everything we drink and eat is loaded with chemicals and children products/ food has more chemicals than most adults food, look at baby formula is loaded with the stuff also the label on baby formula says not to mix with tap water but everyone does, and microwave baby food the pure damage that does to an adult let alone a child but almost every mum who has a microwave heats the baby food and milk up that way no one thinks, computers, wifi and mobile phones cause cancer and mess up you blood cells lower your immune system but yet were all here typing and the human race thinks there clever because they have created technology which is bad for our health and killing us. We never created this technology the demons did and they knew what effect it would have on our health they just want us to believe we are evolving and achieving things, so we wont realise how backwards everything really is.

reply to post by Zeer0


Still a demon, and i don't need to provide you any claims that aliens are demons whilst you are enslaved to the materialist world view.

reply to post by Zeer0


i was agreeing with the person who wrote this post, i dont need to prove nothing to you, go prove something to yourself, im not trying to prove anything i was just letting the creator of this post no that i agree

Not only that. The "gods" are also aliens.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Zeer0

 

Still a demon, and i don't need to provide you any claims that aliens are demons whilst you are enslaved to the materialist world view.

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...so aaaany other race aside from humans.. in the ENTIIIIIRE universe.... are "demons".... what does a demon do? bad stuff? how do we know that YOU are not a demon?

Originally posted by TwelveFifty
Say if true, maybe God did not look favorably upon the appearance of Nephilim because they weren't in His image?

Don't knock the things you can learn that are different from your beliefs.

Exactly because the daughters of man mated with the fallen angels which created the greys aka Nephilim.

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Zeer0

 

Still a demon, and i don't need to provide you any claims that aliens are demons whilst you are enslaved to the materialist world view.

edit on 13-8-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

...so aaaany other race aside from humans.. in the ENTIIIIIRE universe.... are "demons".... what does a demon do? bad stuff? how do we know that YOU are not a demon?

What race's are you referring to? There are no aliens, just humans, animals, demons, angels and God.

Demons help build the kingdom of satan. Humans can not become demons, but can be possessed by them.

Originally posted by nastyj
If you can guys please read my long ass posts, im sure you will find alot of answers there..

I swear there is not enough muslims on these threads cos i see way too many of these debates where i know islam can add so much insight to :/

Everyone knocks religion because of christianity and biblical teachings etc... yet when it comes to Islam people knock it because of terrorists and derka derka lol.. There is so much knowledge you will find about science etc in Islam if yall did your research..

Have you ever read The Ra Material/The Law of One? I find it interesting that this other dimensional group states that it is responsible for mankind's free will and that it also gave instruction to Mohammed as he had the ability to understand them.

You post stating that 2 angels were sent here made me think of this.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by TwelveFifty
Say if true, maybe God did not look favorably upon the appearance of Nephilim because they weren't in His image?

Don't knock the things you can learn that are different from your beliefs.

Exactly because the daughters of man mated with the fallen angels which created the greys aka Nephilim.

What crackpot told you that? Throughout the numerous threads on this aliens are demons subject, nobody...not ONE person has supplied scientific/valid proof of their claims. What they DO supply are dodgy videos, quotes or links to very dodgy people ( eg: John Todd, Alestair Crowley etc) with numerous references to the mythical NWO, and other fantasy organisations none of which have ever been proven to exist.
The difference between most UFO/ET believers ( like myself) and those of the aliens are demons persuasion is that we dont say we have proof. We do not. Sadly. But apparently you alien/demon peeps believe you do have proof so OK. Where is it????
So far...no show.

reply to post by annella


Funnily enough here is the same video of that guy but saying they are demonic.

I don't speak Spanish so i am not sure which one is the correct translation.



But ether way i would not trust any catholic priest.