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Originally posted by Jordan River
I appreciate the choices in life. I can be with God, or be in the middle, or not be with Him at all. Angels are real, get with it and appreciate it. and no they are not greys or other ET aliens in our universe. Get out of here. i've seen proof
reply to post by bogomil
You probably mean something else with 'proof' than the official definition.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by bogomil
You probably mean something else with 'proof' than the official definition.
Hey Bogomil
Is this the first time you have heard someone say they saw a Spirit?
Just wondering.
Originally posted by AQuestion
This is really a thread just for believers, to non-believers consider it my attempt to discuss the morals of a fairy tale if you must.
In the bible it says that 1/3rd of the angels rebelled against God; but, that means that 2/3rds did not and actually care about us and are willing to have us above them, that is pretty amazing considering all the harm we do. Here are my questions, why should they believe in us becoming better and do you appreciate the fact that they trusted in us enough to stick it out and not rebel? What side would you take, or better put, would you do the same for us, do you love your brother that much that you will put up with his mistakes while he grows?
reply to post by bogomil
Nope. I have detailed, direct, firsthand and extended experiences in this area myself. Unfortunately with what's called negative entities. They also tried to 'convert' me on a couple of occasions.
Originally posted by cosmicexplorer
reply to post by AQuestion
What amazes me is that 1/3....even though they are "in the know" ....still chose to go the opposite way. I mean Christ if you have angels saying they're out then how are we suppose to believe. I hate religion and think it has caused much more bad than good. Religion is good moral philosophy and a place for like minded people to meet...that is the best that has come out of it.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by bogomil
Nope. I have detailed, direct, firsthand and extended experiences in this area myself. Unfortunately with what's called negative entities. They also tried to 'convert' me on a couple of occasions.
Hmmmmmmm...Ok. You have really got my attention now. Please tell in detail your experience if you do not mind sharing it with us.
I have studied on the matter of both good and bad entities (ghosts). I actually have a neighbor who just moved from a Haunted House in Memphis. He and his family have lots of stories and they have been sharing them as we are on the edge of our seat in anticipation for the next sentence. I too have seen ghosts but none who were evil.
I wonder if these are just souls stuck ...
Maybe what you experienced was just that...a ghost instead of an Angel??
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by MamaJ
Well the power that shut me down was immense, i have never known or felt anything like that until recently back on July 3rd when i had an experience of the Holy Spirit. The sheer glory,love,awe and light of God shown on my spirit, and i gave witness to my church. It began during worship service, i opened myself up and it flowed into me and through me and it was all i could do to contain it. My body was shaking/vibrating all through worship service and i was fighting it hard because my pastor had begun his preaching so i fought it till his sermon was done and then witnessed. Afterwards i was so drained and tired, i felt like i had fought a giant and my legs were shaking because i could hardly stand, and the longer i held onto the Holy Spirits message the hotter i got, i felt like i was being burned by holy fire and i was afraid if i didnt witness right then i was going to burst into flames, all this while feeling that unconditional love, joy,awe,reverence. I hit my knees, because i literally felt like i was in the presence of the Lord and i wanted to kneel in front of my King. I have never been an emotional man, but that day it changed me. Since that day i have dedicated my life even more to Christ, that i would be his preacher/prophet/healer or die if it was his will. It was that day i went from believing Christ existed to knowing it. That day changed my life forever.
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
You wrote:
["It had nothing to do with us at all. They obeyed God. This wasnt an issue about man being right or wrong, it was about Lucifer being wrong which led them to refusing to be decieved."]
Aaaaa, but that's what you're expected to say based on your blind faith in your mythological manual.
A much more likely imaginatorium is, that Lucifer is the arch-liberal freedom-fighter. You're just reading the propaganda from one side.
And the sin/redeeming stuff is a story to justify the Jahveh faction. It never happened that way.
Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
daskakik: Satan petitioned God for that assent, not that God merely gave him the power. Basically, God has control, but Satan has power, and will ask for anything he can get out of anyone. Also, most human teachers and parents ask questions of others when they already know the answer, and even sometimes know what the person asked is going to respond. Why can't God?
Originally posted by torqpoc
reply to post by AgnarDaGr8
Dear AgnarDaGr8,
I wouldn't go so far as to say a Jihadist, since that is extreme Islamic belief in a specific holy war.
I just don't have much belief or respect in anyone who follows a "set" religion, as all "set" religions are pretty much fabricated hogwash based on previous stories, pretty much all dating back to the Sumerian epoc. What irks me more than anything is:
1) They come on ATS posting claptrap about the Bible, the Qu'ran and what not and then en revanche, refuse to even read anything which is posted back at them from educated, enlightened people trying to at the very least make them see that there are other versions of man's history which pre date all of these concepts.
2) The very same religions discussed time and time again are, without a shadow of a doubt, the biggest pest and virus on this planet. Without them humanity would finally wake up to the realisation that indoctrinated belief is THE problem.
Regards,
T